@kokuto,
I'd LOVE to see Shao Hao and the revolt and the Five Princes. I'd love to see how Xuan Yuan took a tribe, and made it an empire.
such thing was not clearly described in Once Promised.
Xuan Yuan was as strong as the other kingdom already.
the 5 Princes” revolt happened after the story in once promised. there are some memories of yellow emperor about his youth. Shao hao had political conflict with his half brothers. Epic fighting battles between Shen Nong and Xuan Yuan
in 2019 edition, the song was the same when she sang for fei fei and Jing
in the end of chapter 43, she sang it again while singing for CX to make him into asleep. i don’t know who did she think of at that time? jing or xl. if combined with the poem, it can be attributed to XL. otherwise no clear answer.
She just sang the last part of the song
@liddi
In the book when XY confronts CX about attacking HL, he tells her about how daddy emperor betrayed his parents and how her mum cuts her finger. It's that part in S2.
It's really moving in the book when CX has these outburst and since they are talking away his crazy state after killing Jing, I hope they leave this part in. It really gives depth to the emperors and how lonely and sad their lives are as a result of their pass actions.
liddi:
I presume those who claim it have not read the novel, because those who had should certainly know how Xiao Yao expressed her wish more than once that the lure of the mortal realm would be enough to keep Xiang Liu in it.
The leaked script indicates that the song Xiao Yao sang for Fei Fei will be played at the end of the scene where she mourns Xiang Liu's death.
If I am not mistaken, I think a fragment of the song will also play during XY parting from QS Town, after the robbery.
blabla100:
If I am not mistaken, I think a fragment of the song will also play during XY parting from QS Town, after the robbery.
Yes, in the leaked script, he thought he could hear her singing that same song as he secretly saw her off from Qingshui town heading towards Qingqiu.
In the book when XY confronts CX about attacking HL, he tells her about how daddy emperor betrayed his parents and how her mum cuts her finger. It's that part in S2.MengXiang:
It's really moving in the book when CX has these outburst and since they are talking away his crazy state after killing Jing, I hope they leave this part in. It really gives depth to the emperors and how lonely and sad their lives are as a result of their pass actions.
The scene is included in Ep12 of the leaked script, including a flashback to the moment A Heng begged him to give her an army to save her brother, cutting her finger as she swore she would protect the safety of the Gao Xin army that was given to her.
YES! The fan fic inspiration. One of the few scenes I hope actually happens, even if it isn't in the book?Kokuto:
Definitely. And since we're going wildly off course in S2 anyway, why can't we just have someone clobber Fangfeng Bei over the head, and he wakes up a married man?
Definitely. And since we're going wildly off course in S2 anyway, why can't we just have someone clobber Fangfeng Bei over the head, and he wakes up a married man?liddi:
Absolutely! I love that beloved Ru Shuo gets sent to deliver the news. heheheh
Speaking of ... I had no idea that Ru Shuo is also a mythological figure! In some tales he is the god of punishments!
Ru Shou 蓐收 was in Chinese mythology an assistant spirit (shen 神) or "official" (si 司) of the mythical Emperor Shao Hao 少皞 (Di Zhi 帝摯). He is also said to have been one of the four uncles or a son of Shao Hao.
The history books Zuozhuan 左傳 and Guoyu 國語 call him Gai 該. The Shanhaijing 山海經 says that in his left ear a snake was living and that he used to ride on two dragons. He was the god of punishment (xingshen 刑神) and as a such he had the face of a human, but white hair and the claws of a tiger, an animal symbolizing death. Ru Shou's paraphernalium was an axe as a symbol of his jurisdictional power. Emperor Shao Hao and his assistant Ru Shou controlled the regions of the west, along the Kunlun Range 崑崙 and the area of the flowing sand (liusha 流沙).
The commentary Zhouli zhushu 周禮注疏 says that Ru Shou had the personal name Gai 該, and ruled the process metal.
http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Myth/personsrushou.html
Needless to say, I love LYF Ru Shou much better than this guy.
H19279:
@kokuto,
I'd LOVE to see Shao Hao and the revolt and the Five Princes. I'd love to see how Xuan Yuan took a tribe, and made it an empire.
such thing was not clearly described in Once Promised.
Xuan Yuan was as strong as the other kingdom already.
the 5 Princes” revolt happened after the story in once promised. there are some memories of yellow emperor about his youth. Shao hao had political conflict with his half brothers. Epic fighting battles between Shen Nong and Xuan Yuan
That's too bad. Maybe the Five Princes Revolt would have been covered in that second book that was never written.
Yes, the early history of Xuan Yuan would have been out of the scope of Once Promised, I guess. But I'm glad they dropped some hints. But the epic battles and plot of Once Promised does sound like something I would like.
MengXiang:
@liddi
In the book when XY confronts CX about attacking HL, he tells her about how daddy emperor betrayed his parents and how her mum cuts her finger. It's that part in S2.
It's really moving in the book when CX has these outburst and since they are talking away his crazy state after killing Jing, I hope they leave this part in. It really gives depth to the emperors and how lonely and sad their lives are as a result of their pass actions.
Wow. So that's how he justifies attacking Haolin? I was wondering, given how much support he got from them. I hope they don't mess with CX's stuff. As the ML, he really needs to have all his stuff in the drama.
Yes, in the leaked script, he thought he could hear her singing that same song as he secretly saw her off from Qingshui town heading towards Qingqiu.liddi:
With that regard (together with the content of poem used for chapter title) I have more confidence to say that she thought of XL while singing at the end of chapter 43 (CX asked her to sing for him to make him asleep as in childhood time.
"小夭哼唱起了那些伴随她和颛顼长大的古老歌谣,在低沉舒缓的哼唱声中,颛顼沉睡了过去。
小夭闭着眼睛,仍旧随意地哼唱着。也不知道什么时候,旋律变成了那首踏歌:
缘何世间有悲欢
缘何人生有聚散
唯愿与君
长相守、不分离……
小夭的眼角,一颗颗泪珠,缓缓滑落
清晨,颛顼和小夭回到神农山。"
I placed the automatic translation from Edge Microsoft here since the Kaola translation lacks text and precision
"Xiao Yao hummed the old songs that ZX and she had grown up with, and in the low, soothing humming, ZX fell asleep.
Xiao Yao closed her eyes and still hummed casually. She did not know when, the melody became that stepping song:
Why are there joys and sorrows in the world?
Why is life scattered?
Only wish with you
Stay together, don't separate...
In the corners of Xiao Yao's eyes, teardrops slowly slipped down"
BTW, I just finished the translatation of the poem for chapter 31 with title of "Chasing Past Memories, Empty Hopes and Disappointed Visage ". Litteral meaning referred to CX's feeling. This poem consists of 212 letters (insanely long). At the end I am glad that it's about XL's feeling when he heard XY's wedding news (the scene he sat by the river, gazing the ice crytal ball) Poems that was used for chapter titles in the novel - Page 2 - Lost You Forever - kisskh . This poem was considered as one of the most sorrow one from Qu Yuan's "Li Sao - Encountering sorrow".
Taspia:
I don't know what's difference between deity and demon?
Please explain me about this
Demons come from low grade animal that they need to do cultivation themselve to reach to high level
Deity normal roots back to God. So Jing was deity although he is a kind of fox. I guess his ancestors were promoted to god at some point
That is my understanding
Kokuto:
Wow. So that's how he justifies attacking Haolin? I was wondering, given how much support he got from them. I hope they don't mess with CX's stuff. As the ML, he really needs to have all his stuff in the drama.
Shao Hao had a lot of debt from Qing Yang and Ah Heng. His refusal to help Chang Yi is very selfish. He helped CX mainly due to his debt to Ah Heng. She asked him to help CX and take care of XY. He noticed his love for her too late. And he could clearly see that he had no chance for her love at all. In term of emotion, and magnificent scenes, Once Promised surpasses LYF in my opinion. However, LYF is like a maze that motivates reader to dig in further to find Easter Eggs hidden in it. So depending on reader's patience, keenness, the final comprehention can vary a lot.
In term of CX's justification for attacking Gaoxin/Haoling, I think that is just his excuse for XY. First of all, he is emperor of Xuan Yuan. Politically, he is same level with White Emperor. He did his best for the benefit of his kingdom. His war strategy against Haoling shows his respect to the country which had once sheltered him. The only negative point is that in order to tie XY to him, he revealed her biological father to the world.
Just like Shao Hao, the old Xuan Yuan king is brilliant in Lost You Forever - the pinnacle for me is the way he ensured the smooth transition to Cang Xuan's coronation. I understand he was truly unlikeable in Once Promised, certainly a poor husband and parent. I really need to sit down and properly read Once Promised one day.liddi:
Once Promised is completely different from Lost You Forever. It's filled with larger-than-life characters, strong and decisive - they have to be to survive in that world of wars and conquests.
Lost You Forever is quieter. It's melancholy in a way that is different from the tragedy of Once Promised. If Once Promised is about wars and conquests, then Lost You Forever is that price that the later generation has to pay for all those wars and conquests. Most of the characters in Lost You Forever are "ill" in some way.
Missing part in Kaola translation in chapter 41.
I don't know if the following part was not included in 2013 edition of LYF which Kaola used as resource of original text or she/he thought it was not so important so just made a small summary.
the text was mainly about XY's motivation for studying medicine in proper way as well as editing the medical book.
Kaola translation just summarized is as following:
The Yellow Emperor summoned all the famed doctors and healers around the vast wilderness and together with Xiao Yao convinced them to write down all their knowledge to create medical texts for future generations much like the Flame Emperor did in creating the herb medicinal manuals.
Without any wars and conflicts, time and the seasons passed quickly when there was much to do, and in the blink of an eye fifteen years had passed.
Below is the missing part. Translation from 2017 edition resulted from auto-translation function of Microsoft Edge browser. I highlighted her direct reason (circumstance) to start working with the medicine book in red text which I will discuss in another post (maybe some of you already had the answer for why she suffered from great pain and discouraged of everything at that time)
In the past, excellent doctors from various countries were afraid of spreading their medical skills and did not communicate with each other. Now, under the summons of the Yellow Emperor, they gathered at Xiaoyueding to discuss medical skills together.
At first, they still said five points and left five points, and when Xiao Yao gave them the sorted out "Shennong's Materia Medica" without concealment, they held the world's treasure, shocked to disbelief.
Xiao Yao said: "You are all the best doctors in the Great Wilderness, and you will naturally know whether this book is true or false after reading it." I don't want to explain why the lost Shennong's Materia Medica has reappeared, but I just want to tell you a little story about me. ”
Under the attentive gaze of all the doctors, Xiao Yao said: "I just started to get in touch with medical skills not to save people, but to kill people. I have killed far more people than I have saved. At that time, I never felt that the healer was worthy of respect, nor did I feel how precious the "Shennong Materia Medica" was, until one day, I suffered from pain, and I was discouraged about everything, and my grandfather, His Majesty the Yellow Emperor, led me into the house where the medical ancestor Emperor Yan once lived. In that room, there was half a box of Emperor Yan's codex. You must have all heard that Emperor Yan tried medicine and died of poisoning by tasting herbs, and those codexes recorded all the medications and physical reactions of Emperor Yan from the poison to his death. ”
Xiao Yao's expression was very solemn, and the expressions of all the doctors were also very solemn.
"It's talking about a hundred herbs, but a single "Shennong's Materia Medica" is not just a hundred herbs? As a physician, you should be able to imagine the pain of all kinds of poisons, but in the midst of such great pain, Emperor Yan not only had to deal with state affairs, but also insisted on recording every medicine he used. I have never met Emperor Yan, but when I read Emperor Yan's codex, I cried while reading it, and I cried all night after reading it. Before the pain that Emperor Yan endured, I can't say that my pain has become lighter, after all, Emperor Yan is Emperor Yan, and I am me. But because I felt the mind and feelings of a great emperor, my vision of things changed. I am ashamed that I once despised the Shennong Materia Medica, and I am even more ashamed that I have treasures that have not benefited others. From that moment on, I was determined to study medicine, I studied medicine and practiced medicine at the same time, the medical hall was not very famous, and the people who came to see the patients were ordinary people, but it was precisely because of contact with them that I began to understand what a doctor brings to others, not only the pain of contact with the body, but also the joy and peace of a person, even a family. Because I healed the father of a little girl, the little girl doesn't have to be sold anymore. Every day, she and her brother would leave the wild fruits they had picked at my door. That's when I really started learning the art of medicine with the heart of a healer. You are all well-known doctors, do you remember why you wanted to study medicine in the first place? ”
Xiao Yao's gaze was as clear as water, sweeping over them one by one.
"In order to learn medical skills, I asked His Majesty the Black Emperor to send a teacher to me, that is, His Majesty's imperial physician Yin, we often communicate together to learn medical skills, I have a little selfishness, I am just a person, no matter how good the medical skills are, my ability is limited, so I hope Yin's medical skills are better and can better take care of His Majesty's body. My grandfather, His Majesty the Yellow Emperor, saw that Yin and I were arguing over a herb and a prescription from time to time, and when my grandfather heard me say that the herbs recorded in the "Shennong Materia Medica" grew in the Central Plains, and many medicines in the sea were not recorded in the "Shennong's Materia Medica", my grandfather suddenly had an idea to gather the power of doctors all over the world to jointly sort out and compile a set of medical skills to make up for the shortcomings of the "Shennong's Materia Medica", so that more herbs and prescriptions can benefit the world. ”
All the doctors looked at Xiao Yao in shock, crazy, crazy! There are people who have done more than "Shennong's Materia Medica"?
Xiao Yao said calmly: "At that time, I also thought it was impossible! This idea is very crazy, and it is estimated that only His Majesty the Emperor dares to think and do it. I don't have the courage of my grandfather, and I don't believe that I can compile a set of medical skills that record the prescriptions and medical skills of the whole Great Wilderness, but I just think that I can collect a little bit is a little, although I can't compare to Emperor Yan's sentiment of trying medicine by himself, but as long as I do my best, at least I have a clear conscience. But I didn't expect that there would really be this day, the excellent medical skills of the whole Great Wilderness gathered in Xiaoyueding, and there were still little doctors sent by my grandfather to go deep into the people and collect and sort out prescriptions from all over the Great Wilderness, I think my grandfather's wish is hopefully fulfilled! ”
Xiao Yao said sincerely: "The reasons for each of us to study medicine are different, all of you here are great doctors, medical skills have brought you fame and fortune, but fame and fortune are not enough to die, countless people in this world have come and gone, but Feihong is fluttering, claw shadow is not left, how many people can leave something for future generations?" How many people can leave something for generations to come? My grandfather gave you not only an opportunity to communicate with each other and improve your medical skills, but also an opportunity for you to influence the generations to come. A long, long time later, the majestic city has collapsed, generations of emperors have died, and countless heroic legends have been annihilated, but I firmly believe that the medical books you have compiled will still circulate in the world, and will still make countless fathers recover and countless daughters laugh. ”
Xiao Yao stood up and bowed to all the doctors: "I implore you to share a school with the world, so that the great wilderness and thousands of generations of people can regain their health and happiness because of you!" ”
She did not know when the Yellow Emperor stood aside and listened, at this moment he said slowly: "You can learn and succeed, you are all wise people, please understand, while sharing what you have learned, it is not to lose, but to gain." ”
All the doctors looked at the "Shennong's Materia Medica" in their hands, then looked at the Yellow Emperor, and finally looked at Xiaoyao, some were shocked, some were thoughtful, and some were full of eagerness, and then they gradually became firm. began to salute Xiao Yao in twos and threes, and finally all saluted Xiao Yao: "We are willing to follow the example of Emperor Yan, the ancestor of medicine, and do what we have learned all our lives to compile medical books." ”
The Yellow Emperor looked at Xiao Yao and the doctor who were bowing to the ground, and smiled slightly.
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