Tonya Brown

For all of those who aren't sure which side they should be on; take not of what the pro-palestinian people admit in these messages. It's not about Gaza. Israel wasn't in Gaza. It's about Israel proper and their right to exist. "From the river to the sea" means no Israel.

I was asking because I was hoping you didn't know which river and sea it was. Considering that the state of Israel lies between the Mediterranean sea and the Jordon river, does that mean you don't recognise their right to exist?

Are you familiar with international law at all? According to international law Israel are the legal owners of Israel. After the big mess of different groups of people all being promised the same land, Israel was legally Israel, and the arabs got all of Jordon. Israel won Gaza in a defensive war thus getting legal ownership according to international law, and gave it up in a fruitless hope of peace. So legally they do have the right to the land.
Have you heard of those family tree things where you can get your DNA tested to see where you're from? They can biologically check if someone is jewish. Most of the arabs living in Gaza also went there after WW2 so that is not a valid argument anyway.
Why would you say they have no historical claim to the land? Archaeological finds in the area are predominantly jewish. Like Solomon's seal is, so that doesn't help your case. Maybe that's why groups like HAMAS forbid
archaeological digs.
Israel and Israeli's are far from perfect, but they are not responsible for this war. When Jordan wanted peace with Israel there was peace. When Egypt wanted peace with Israel there was peace. The Palestinians do not want peace and therefore there is no peace. Instead of building infastructure to better the lives of their citizens with the millions and millions of dollars of aid they get, they invested it in rockets and tunnels designed to kill.

I wasn't making a we were here first claim, nor a claim that no arabs were in the land. I was just pointing out the original inhabitants to refute the claim that the land belongs to the arabs because they were supposedly there first, using Herod and Mohammed as examples that the jews were in the land.
You want to talk about decades of occupations and bombings. How many Israeli's were in Gaza prior to October 7? That would be zero. Absolutely none. The arabs (including Palestinians) were allowed in Israel. Many were employed there, and arab citizens enjoy equal rights. Not so in "Palestine". No jews allowed, and all the suffering and lack of rights of people in Gaza was a result of their own chosen government; HAMAS, not Israel. Israel supplied them with electricity, and water. Who's been taking the aid from civilians? Once again that would be HAMAS, not Israel.
Most Palestinians still say they support HAMAS, and when they were parading the dead body of a naked jewish women in the street people cheered and spat on her. These people cut people up, and burned whole families.
So given that zero Israeli's lived in Gaza I think it's safe to dismiss your claims of occupation. What about the one of genocide? This is war. People die during wars. Children die. It's terrible. But no other nation on earth takes the steps Israel does to try and limit civilian death. They drop leaflets, send warning bombs, phone people up. That's probably why despite your claims of genocide, and despite the fact that HAMAS fights from behing human shields, the ratio of civilian to combatant casualties is so much lower than in most wars.

What land did they steal? They haven't even been in Gaza for almost 20 years.
Did you notice that when an Israeli does attack a Palestinian they are arrested and condemned for it, but when someone from Gaza kills an Israeli they are celebrated and financially rewarded? Gazans didn't have to worry about Israel sending suicide bombers, or running people over and stabbing them while they're waiting at the bus stop. It's actually the other way around.

The jews ARE the natives so your argument is flawed. They were there long before the arabs.
I'm curious, would you hold those same standards for anyone other than Israel? For instance, if Mexico was constantly firing rockets at the US from a hospital would you condemn America if they bombed the hospital?
Israel is far from perfect but they make a very big effort to limit civilian casualties. It's an unfortunate fact of war that many innocents die in the crossfire. Israel kills significantly less innocents than in most wars. Let's not forget though why this war started and so who bears responsibility for all the death. How do you justify not responding to the actions of HAMAS on October 7th?

It's funny that the side who claims they have the moral high ground rarely share facts, instead resorting to name calling and insults.
Go look at the symbols on coins etc from the original "Palestinians". It's the star of David. Palestine was a word invented to insult the jews because of it's similarity with Philistine. Also look at who king Herod was killing, and what Mohammed said in the Quran. The jews were in the land first and always.

What river and what sea?

That was a great explanation, and a very kind way of saying it.

I'm so glad to see someone with some sense commenting on here, well done. All these bleeding hearts on here who don't know what they're talking about.

I suggest the youtube channel 'Travelling Israel' for a more accurate perspective.

I'd say what you claim was represented in the drama sounds closer to the truth. Everyone here saying otherwise really needs to learn history.

I too was wondering about this. I've been watching short upright dramas on youtube and come across acceptance of homosexuality there too and I was very confused.

It's in so many dramas. I hate that trope. Why would anyone think it's romantic being apart for so long? I actually think it's ok for him to go and sort his emotions out, but a year without contact? I'd be angry when he got back. The worst one I saw was 7 years. They got together at a school reunion. That's not realistic at all.

I'd probably call it slight romance. It's more of a mystery. No love triangle and there is a happy ending but it is just that: the ending. They do get together a couple of episodes before the end but there is a bit of angst due to the mystery. We don't really see them being lovey dovey but I think it's worth watching. I only watch romance with happy endings and I enjoyed it.

Have you watched Secret Garden or Love between fairy and devil?

No, but I watched it and there's no break-up. No kiss either. Just a hug and hand holding.

When will I learn to wait until a drama is almost finished before I start to watch?

I wanted them to become a couple.😔

Here's a couple you could try:
Falling into your smile.
Love scenery.