Duncan Mudge

Who is defending rape? Do you just make up accusations when you need them. We're talking about a video that "depicts" something that does actually happen. But the actors are just acting. I hate to break the news to you but, actually, in the video no one actually gets raped. And why are you afraid of the word? I'm sorry for any trauma that you have endured but that doesn't mean that the rest of us should just bury our heads in the sand; and maybe you shouldn't either. Maybe you're the one who needs help, not being able to differentiate between a video and real life. I know you want to form your own censorship committee but why don't you just not watch. No one forces you to watch anything, right? If it bothers you so much why not see someone so that you can get help processing that trauma. Then maybe you'll be able to say the word.

It's very simple: if you don't like it don't watch it. Please don't push YOUR morality on me!

I haven't been able to find a translation of the novel that doesn't have multiple watermarks on each page. Can you share the link to the translation?

There is a of the novel from Gian but it's riddled with multiple copies of a watermark on each page, making it difficult to read. The watermark is "Hazelpeenutz." Does anyone know where we can find a copy of the novel without loads of watermark on each page? A single watermark on each page would be fine.

Thanks for pointing that out. I also had a gnawing feeling that Uea was too bitchy. He never really loosened up, even after they became boyfriends. And King is so stunningly good looking. Yeah, not sure what he saw in the very needy Uea?

Wow excellent summary of the final episodes. And your commentary is so much better than the two reviews at the top -- they must have watched a different series...lol. I loved the series.

The females in Thai BL are not, in general, evil. Consider YiWha in Together With Me -- she almost singlehandedly get Max and Tul together, ganging up against Plern.

Yes, me too. War reminds me so much of New, with his facial mannerisms and cute expressions. They both say so much with facial expressions. But I like Yin so much better than Tay and I like YinWar much better than TayNew -- much less bickering and physically fighting. And War doesn't resist Yin's advances the way New was always resisting Tay, not that I blame him. For example, at the end of Kiss Me Again, New doesn't even want to have Tay see him without a shirt on!! Like what's that about?

@WonderfullyScarred I LOVED My School President. I think I watched the whole thing at least 3 or 4 times, and some parts, like the big final song Rock and Star, I probably watched 15 or 20 times. To get up in front of the whole school and sing a song to your bf, and then go out into the audience and dance with him, and then bring him on stage -- amazing. Could it ever happen in real life? Probably not. But it's fun to fantasize. And I also loved Never Let Me Go. Fourth is super cute, but Pond is super hot. How can someone that hot be so sweet! And yes, I watched Moonlight Chicken, which was surprisingly good. And of course, as you said, Fourth and Gemini are so cute. I loved Love In The Air and both Boss and Fort are beautiful. I haven't watched We Best Love or Innocent, but because of your suggestion I'm putting them on my watch list as well as the others that you mentioned.
For recommendations: I think you have watched everything that I have watched. I'm sure you've seen Bad Buddy. Nanon is so cute.

Wow, thanks for your interesting comment @WonderfullyScarred. I'm tempted to give it a watch, but it's at the bottom of my list because there are so many good BLs out there: My School President, Never Let Me Go, etc. But thanks again, you've swayed me enough to consider it as an option if I get desperate.

Good point, why didn't they list it as a bromance? I read the webtoon and they don't kiss in the first 29 chapters of the webtoon either. The author wrote two extra side stories and they do kiss in the first side story, and maybe in the second. They also talk about top vs bottom. The author said that she wasn't sure how to draw intimate scenes. But I'm definitely NOT going to watch this series. Thanks for the honest comments about the lack of chemistry; I've watched BL where that happened and it left a bad feeling.

Thanks for your comment. I had the same reaction to 2gether. Fortunately I can learn from you and avoid this series.

Thanks for these comments. So they screwed up Ep 7 and they refused to kiss each other. I can definitely miss this one, with so many other good BL series out there.

Totally agree. And I'm a MaxTul fan!

How about a Fort/Tonnam pairing?

This is a beautiful Love Story. Maybe I should say Love Stories because there are 4 BL couples in this series, but the one I liked the most was Chin/U. As the story unfolds we first see that Chin likes U but they lose contact with each other until they enter university where they "happen" to be roommates. It becomes apparent that U likes Chin and, at first, Chin seems to like U; however, later Chin seems ambivalent about U and, because of this ambivalence, hurts U and causes him to cry. Chin seems to be ambivalent because Tisa enters the picture and Chin "seems" to like her as well. U finally confesses to Chin that he likes him but Chin says that he doesn't like U "that way." Enter Pat, who definitely likes U and, who wouldn't, U is super cute. But U doesn't like Pat as much as Pat likes U and a competition for U develops with both Pat and Chin seeking his affection.

Meanwhile, Chin appears to like Tisa, a vicious caricature of the conniving female. In episode 10 we finally learn why Chin is ambivalent about U -- it's because Tisa is blackmailing Chin's father to make Chin do "his duty" to Tisa and not be a "twisted gender." Tisa threatens that if Chin and his father don't shape up that her father will cause Chin's father to lose his business. Chin's father buys into the blackmail because he views his son as an investment that must produce returns. But Chin is unwilling to go along with his father's wishes so Tisa tells the father that Chin is not "doing his duty" to her so Chin's father smacks Chin around.

When Chin arrives at school the next day, with obvious bruises, U's friends realize that something has occurred and begin to question what's happening with Chin. Chin tries to maintain distance from U but when he sees Pat moving in to kiss U, Chin intervenes and kisses U. This kiss precipitates the great reveal when U's best friend, Jed, takes Chin into the stairway and hits him in the face a few times, asking him one last time how he feels about U. Finally, Chin confesses to Jed that he loves U, loves him very much, and although Chin has tried to protect U because of his father, he cannot resist because he loves U so much and can't bear to lose him.

Unknown to Chin, U overhears his confession and is deeply struck by Chin's sincerity and his true love -- but he is unsure of what to do with this new information. Jed tells Chin if he really loves U, as he says he does, then "prove it." Given this challenge and advice Chin goes home to tell his father that he will not date Tisa and that he loves U and, if his father loves him, he will let him go. We then find out that his father doesn't love him because he gets ready to give Chin another beat down when, all of a sudden, U arrives and steps in front of Chin to protect Chin from his father. U tells the father that it's his, U's, fault that Chin is the way that he is, so Chin's father happily punches U across the face many times until he has had enough and then leaves -- telling U that this isn't the end of this. Then U turns to face the appalled Chin and they hold each other. Chin tells U he is sorry but U says, "Don't worry, we will face this together" -- perhaps the most beautiful line in the series. And the beginning of a Restart of their relationship.

Though it's difficult, Chin and U separate from Chin's father and become boyfriends, beginning a beautiful, loving relationship. We are watching Chin and U looking lovingly at each other in bed, both dressed in green and white sweaters, when Chin gets a text from his father containing a purple heart. Chin sees the text and it's not clear what he does, perhaps typing something cryptic in return, and then Chin and U go back to lovingly embracing each other. It is clear that Chin has separated from his father and is doing just fine on his own, having renounced his father's money and his business.

One year later we see that not only are Chin and U still together, but U's friends are also still together with their respective boyfriends, and they are all very happy with each other. There is a reveal at the end about Pat and U that is very interesting and suggests that there may possibly be a second season -- which I would look forward to seeing.

It's very unfortunate that many BL viewers don't take their viewing seriously. Some viewers actually fast forward, looking for kissing scenes. Still others get bent out of shape for the least little thing, like two boys kissing. Some viewers fast forward over dialog and then complain that they can't follow what's happening in the series. I think that too many BL viewers are young and just take a beautiful performance, like the one that Ohm and Nanon have contributed, for granted. It's like no big deal. I wish they would at least refrain from voting.

I'm not sure that I understand why so many viewers are confused about what's happening in this series. Maybe you're skipping too much. I can appreciate comments that claim the series is slow or boring because that's a matter of opinion and taste. But I cannot understand why people are confused. If you skip important dialog you're going to be confused -- don't blame the director or the script.

So Milk's boy friend, Aek, broke up with him. We don't know why yet, not a clue, but we do know that they broke up. Milk is trying to get over the breakup, so he drinks a lot. He has dinner with Dr. Pun and gets drunk so Pun takes him to his hotel room and takes care of him, then Dr. Pun returns to China, summoned by his father.

Then Milk goes on a two week retreat to get his act together -- seems like it worked. Then, as part of his job, he's supposed to "infiltrate" the Very Great Wellness Center, a new client of the combined firm where Milk works, to evaluate the Center. After his first visit to the Center, he wants to spend more time there so he tries to get injured but overdoes it, partly because HIS dog jumps on him. It's clear that it's his dog by the dialog, although I will admit the dog appears in the scene out of nowhere, but it's clearly Milk's dog. Why are so many confused about whose dog it is?

So now Milk is truly injured with a slipped disk. He's in pain so he legit calls the Center and they send Dr. Pun, his love interest, to visit his hotel room. When Dr. Pun opens Milk's hotel room door, Milk falls into his arms -- why can't this happen in real life? Dr. Pun admits Milk to the Center and even spends the night in his room. I admit all of this happenstance is hard to believe but it is a BL drama. We watch to avoid dealing with life, to escape, not to be confronted with reality.

I admit that the first 2 episodes are on the slow side but most Thai dramas are slow in development. If you want a shorter series, you should try a drama series from another country. I can appreciate that this series is too slow for some, but I cannot understand why so many people are confused, unless you skip the dialog. Personally, I don't know if I like this series or not but I'm definitely willing to keep watching, just to give it a chance. Certainly Milk is adorable and fun to watch. And, so far, Dr. Pun is a bit cringy, but I'm willing to give him a chance. I'm not sure why Milk was unaffected by the death of his friend Ja, but certainly Dr. Yang was upset by the death, probably because he's Ja's secret boyfriend, as Milk surmised. I'm going to keep watching and paying attention to the dialog.

I totally agree. The others are pretty wooden in their acting.

Also, I think that Ball made a mistake by taking a nap right in front of Puri, kind of indicating indifference to Puri being there. Thus, Puri hooked up with Art, who was anything but indifferent because you can see that Puri and Art have a connection, maybe even giving each other a ring. So both the goldfish and the nap are important!