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Thank you so much for saying this, I don't know what is going on with this particular drama, but some of the comments have been so aggressive and inappropriate. that I have blocked a couple. I also have rarely seen these kind of comments in MDL.

Yes, I would applaud these women for even trying, given the "Weinstein" nature of the business, although hopefully that's changing. I also think it's interesting how Cha Joo Young is female but also an enabler of sexual favours, to the Mayor, who is also female. That's what is fantastic about this drama, nothing is black or white. Admittedly there is a lot of violence/assault etc associated with the men who perpetrate the sexual assault of the actresses, it has actually made me sick to watch. I really get that Sang-Ah is sick with revenge and grief. The young guy actor who agreed to get with the mayor did it willingly as a leg up into the industry. Pretty sad also really. Personally the moral ambiguity extends to BTS also, he was possibly aware of what was going to happen to Jisoo, but looked the other way, he is also ruthlessly ambitious, but trying in the background to help his wife, with whom I believe he is very much in love. That's my take, see if it pans out.
This drama won't appeal to anyone looking for cute, formulaic lightweight entertainment. Sorry for the rant but I'm really impressed by Climax, I have so many theories, looking forward to see what happens.

It's also a challenging, confronting plot with a huge amount of intentional ambiguity, it's sophisticated and intelligent, and would not appeal to everyone.

Neither of the lead actors are pure evil, FL is struggling big time with dealing with her past, probably sexual assault, and her career, her lack of trust, her grief over her friends probably suicide, and how to balance all these factors, surrounded by manipulative, power driven sociopaths. ML is equally trying to navigate a world of crazy psychos, within which he is power hungry, and ruthlessly ambitious, but also aware of the shit that is going down. One of the biggest drivers in this drama is revenge, but ambition and also personal feelings/love play a huge part.

I just watched this again, I really was entertained despite all the flaws. I just have one silly question, how could FL and SFL have the same dresses at the end function and jewellery. The dresses are supposedly Haute Couture made especially for Sarah Kim, so how can there be 2???

Well said, I guess other dramas like The Glory, Hyena, Dear X, The Price of confession, The Art of Sarah to name but a few also explore this type of "morally complex female character is you put it so well. It's great to see and incredibly interesting.

I was just thinking the exact same thing, he's a great actor but I've never seen him in a role like this. He normally has more reserve somehow as BTS he's more exposed and vulnerable, can't exactly put this into words. His character is so complex. Equally HJW - her performance is so raw and captivating. Same with all the cast actually.

Love this drama. Just one issue, if Tae-Seop wants to run for President, he'd have to be pretty sure that no one saw him beat up Choi Ji Ho and Park Jae Sang to a pulp.

Ditto for me. What is your take on Siren's Kiss?

Loving it! Great cast, every single one. Very gritty, noir plot. It's smart and it's exactly my kind of thing. Can't wait for the next ep.

Yes, for me in this version she's so fragile and miserable, that even though he is driven by his sisters death, to be accusatory and suspicious, she doesn't seem to counter that with the resilience to be seductive and strongly attractive. Shame because I can see after what you said how riveting this drama could have been.

The plot is really interesting. But every time I see PMY as this supposed gorgeous irresistible siren, I only see a really fragile, miserable overly thin woman. I also feel that WHJ is coming on as too aggressive initially, because we are supposed to be seeing him slowly seduced by this "siren"s aura of beauty. I think with more subtle acting, and more push pull with regards to his feelings for her would work better. Right now I can't see any chemistry at all. FL lead is extremely one dimensional atm. I realise she has a traumatic past, and all will be revealed. But that's just my vibe at this point.. I'm still interested by see how the plot will pan out and who is orchestrating the murders.

Thus far, great plot. Really enjoying it. Hope it keeps up the momentum.

I think there's only been one lol

Interesting, thanks!

Totally agree. Apparently eating disorders are exceptionally hard to deal with. And all the very best for your future health.

Probably, but the baby isn't acting. They shoot lots of footage of the baby probably with his real parents, for all the different expressions and edit it in so it looks flawless.

Really enjoyed it! It was fun, and suspenseful, even if contrived by production. Panelists are soooo entertaining and interesting, and very chilled. I am really impressed at how well behaved Koreans are, respectful and self controlled. They are sexy without being slutty, beautifully dressed, I thought this show was just great entertainment.

Even though as a viewer you know a lot of this is about career boosting and exposure, you are still sucked into the dynamics, I agree it's really fun. The panelists are hilarious and chilled and make really interesting comments, the contestants are adorable, and doing a great job. I'm totally hooked.

so agree