Since we won't have ep16 until May 5 now... can ya'll recommend crime/serial killer/psychopath dramas to me? Dramas…
Another one that's good imo is Tell Me What You Saw. The SK is kinda similar with BR, except you can't figure out he's a SK because he's very good at hiding himself. A true predator at that too, he also hunted down other SKs out of his false superiority complex and narcissism , his manipulating and exploiting the friendship he shared with other people to the point they willingly sacrificed themselves for him in the name of brotherhood, the best portrayal of a predator imho though it's your typical drama with the villain isn't the ML.
Lee Seungi Gi being a psychopath is kinda sexy. He's playing the hell outa this role. I'm sorry but Bong Yi character…
It is kinda disturbing indeed to see someone will take out their hatred on a baby, but that kind of thing happens in real life too...I think writer here is trying to portray exactly that...just because you're a victim, it doesn't mean you can do whatever your heart desires...BY is that kind of victim...though it's natural but if she let that hatred eating her away, not stop it there with YH's death...she'll only became a bitter person and she will regret it to the bone the day she realised she attempted to murder YH and that she being evil toward an innocent baby, while in fact it is the man she looks up to, the man she loves, the man she consideres as the only family she had is the man who brutally murdered her beloved granny, adding to that all her guilt of bad treating her granny...the impact on her life will be even more severe....
And I think what she actually mean is to hurt HJ for hiding it from her and she thought that HJ only care because she felt guilty and pittying her...and she like everyone else still think YH is a SK...sometimes you can't just hold back the temptation to hurt someone..and because you couldn't do that physically you can only use evil words to hurt their feelings...and that's what BY did to HJ and it works.
Now that Ko Moo Chi has asked Ba Reum to be his little brother I wonder if Moo Chi will be able to kill him? What…
MC might be hesitated but it would be like in seconds considering his blood brother killed in gruesome manner by BR, his entire family's lives were taken by predator SK, to compare it with their kind of new developed relationship and adding to that he killed YH (he shot him with intent to kill) and also that kid he failed to save...I think his hesitation will be like seconds if he'll be...
And BR is a changed person now...with all the guilt and remorse, he even wanted to suicide twice already, I think he might wanted KC to caught and kill him himself...because it would only proper for him to die in MC's hand and for everyone else's sake too...I don't think he'll want to kill KC now he recovered his past and felt so guilty he killed people he has close relationship with then and now.
Ba reum didn't attack (and thought he'd killed) Chi Kook simply to impress Han Seo Jun, he tried to kill Chi Kook…
I think he didn't do it just to impress HSJ, but also he might want to boast to HSJ, that he's a better predator than HH was. That he could kill in prison where HSJ is contained, that kind of arrogance and pride, that KC didn't have.
And also adding to all that KC insulted him by calling him a rat (KC of course didn't know that he is a SK) and also when KC shaid he's ashamed that for an intance he feared HH. In this KC actually being arrogant and prideful, he know how to draw a line between right and wrong, and also to not fear nor curious or interestest in criminals...he has his pride being a good citizen and a proud of his job. So I think...just my opinion, he's not entirely fit for BR's victim qualification. Him entitling to BR things he did,I found it strange that BR took it as him being too humble....a predator like him would take it as an insult...because he's being looked down upon (though it was all his ruse to play weak to begin with),but an arrogant psychopath like BR if course would take humble gesture as an insult...though he could benefit from that too...like people seeing him as a hero...but the insult remains...he's a hero because CK gave him the credit while everyone knows that he's a weak person. So it's kinda strange in my opinion that BR literally took it as CK being too humble. I think CK a person with pride...he's proud of his job and he's not ashamed of doing what is right in his sight...that can be called pride too....so sad that this good man had to be another victim....
I think as far as BR as a subject of experiment, both DL and HSJ are somehow in a competition, though what drives…
HSJ indeed powerful inside and outside the prison. Everyone in the prison fearfully respect him, he has that authoritative charisma in him, even the prison doctor who happened to be YH's friend as well, wouldn't dare not providing him with surgical thread he needed for his practice. And also in that scene when a fellow inmate offered to "take care" of CK, he instead ordered him to find a guy (my guess is YH because YH then came to prison and met him), and the other scene when the very same inmate also made a false claim to be the one who killed CK...people willing to do things for him. This is what psychopath is like in terms of having such a charismatic "personality" that they can use to manipulate even exploit others at any given time. And it could be the same for the fan club, he might be using it indirectly to have someone/some people to help BR . The purpose I think is to help BR recover his memory, that he might remember who he was before. HSJ knew who BR is the moment he meet him in the eyes at close range when HSJ helped give CK onsite emergency surgery...he gave him that look like telling him"I know who you are boy"...and BR also seemed to have some respect from him the moment he saw him and said to CK that HSJ looked like normal person despite there's a monster inside him. I think he was there to make impression to HSJ and that the man took acknowledged that. First I thought HSJ was concerned about YH's memory would take over BR's, but when I revisited that scene, he genuinely concerned if BR would lose his predator nature to YH's part of brain that regulating emotions. So I think yes, he possibly wanted to see that his glorious achievement as you said to have a long last, to survive well. So he might want to keep BR safe too, remember when he boasted to DL about brain transplant as a mean to control someone's life? To be like a deity? He meant that. He wanted to control BR to some extent, but he couldn't do that openly or directly as it would only provoke BR to resisting him, the way he did with DL.
And DL would bother to trouble himself for making sure BR in his "control" too...because now BR is the only predator with emotions. He wouldn't miss a chance to observe and doing his own experiment with him. Now that his activity is illegal and his own existence now also illegal (he is not Korean citizen), he also have limited time with BR, so I think he would take risks too...we don't know yet also who is behind him and financed him, he has resources so he will make use of them.
Now either DL is aware that there's someone else who cleaned up after BR in HK case and in other cases, or they probably working together....DL could be working with HSJ too, who knows, even enemies could work together when they share the same interest...but we can't know until we get to know that....
Both HSJ and DL already aware of BR from before surgery, that I'm sure..now after surgery....HSJ might wanted BR to recover his authobiographical memories...to recover his past self...and so does DL but for very different reasons...one so BR will remember that he is a predator and to remain so...and DL.in the other hand wanted BR to not quickly remembering his past, because it will be hard to control him once he got all his memory back...they will never know what he'll do...that is why when he still confuse he insisted BR to do him favors....and when BR recover all his memory he's in panic mode....
So yes...let's see...how things will turn in remaining episodes.
He cleans up himself and covers the wound with his hair before he talks to the mother. Unless you think it really…
Yes, I have difficulty to comprehend what's the point of telling viewers that BR's temporal lobe was damaged too while there's no addressing on what entails that kind of injury. Even the transplant is only partial, it is in no way his brain can recompensate for the loss function of damaged temporal lobe in such a short time...temporal lobe damage seriuously can affect the ability to comprehend language and ability to speak as well but we don't see that happenes to BR, he speaks just fine, he can understand things what people are saying just fine, he indeed showing that he's annoyed by noise, and he seemed quite calm and in good control also of his aggresiveness while temporal lobe damage could cause someone to be more aggressive than normal, even frontal lobe responsible for regulating and controlling the empotions, it is of no use if your temporal lobe is damaged. Since every region of the brain work as one integral unit...one region inhibit other is one example of how brain works. We can't cherry pick what to control...brain di it by itself...now BR could feel certain emotions/feelings he never had before, but those feelings aren't stimulated in in frontal lobe, frontal lobe is where those feelings got their expressions, got their cognitive response...now how can BR can feel guilt and remorse and even fear...anxiety to the point he wanted to suicide? When in other times he could maintain his predatory instinct?while all those feelings are processed in temporal lobe? Idk how to put this...but really I can understand how many people disappointed with brain transplant idea, because even it seem like plausible and its really complicated, and writer needs to have proper research on how the brain actually work and what happened when someone has TBI like BR did and what are the aftermath of brain surgery-transplant...now we can't use excuse like sci-fi because exactly because it is a sci-fi everything must explained in plausible manner for viewers to understand what is happening to BR's brain.
So yes, let's see how the writer wrap things up, thus far we seen she did good job with untangling things one by one as the episodes go...so we can expect every thing will be wrapped up good without leaving any plot holes....all will be wrapped up properly.
I like the way they highlighted the lines of saying in the end of each episode, to encourage and give comfort. I feel I can relate to each and every person the victim here, that those things happened in real life and sometimes even the law couldn't reach out to mend that severity of damage caused to each victim of crime or abuse. How their day to day lives are impacted, not just their lives but also people around them. While law indeed providing justice and by itself can't be bent, but people who made and supposed to uphold it firmly can be bent and they can bend the law for their own personal interests. While the victims have to deal with the aftermath of crimes, how they must struggle every day and to move on with their lives.
He cleans up himself and covers the wound with his hair before he talks to the mother. Unless you think it really…
I don't know, but if we talk about TBI (traumatic brain injury), that is one possibility, but mostly it's temporal, with specific treatmend and therapy, and to mention brain ability to recover or recompensate...it can be dealt with...but usually it takes time too....
I actually made comments about the brain injury BR had...the doctors definitely telling the press that BR have severe frontal and tempral lobe damage. But BR only had partial frontal lobe transplantation. There is no mention of how they dealt with his temporal love damage. While temporal lobe damage could have some serious effects entailed. Among others is memory, most common is the inability to form new memories, but in severe cases, it could erase autobiographical memories...that could lead to drastic personality change. Like you can't remember who yourself is...it might be recovered over time with treatment and therapy regulary over periode of times...and BR wonderfully recovered his memory back in just a year and even wonderfully no signs on temporal lobe damage happened to BR other than he can't stand the smell of his favorite food, he forgot it's favorite food and that he couldn't recognize faces after surgery and over time he could remember them...
Now brain surgery itself has its side effects...now we're falking about brain transplant. It's even more complicated we can't just insert a replacement without causing quite a stir in the brain. The brain is like a circuit, it needs to be stable and in harmony...in balance state...but when it's injured it is in chaos...like other region of the brain is working hard to recompensate the function of damaged region. Now putting in new foreign part...other regions of brain literally forced to change in order to adapt to the newly added part...so we can expect all kinds of weird things happening...adding to that side effects of the damaged parts...so yea a it is possible for BR to have problems differentiate between reality and his imagination or perception...
But I don't think the writer is focusing on other things related to brain injury and transplant...she focusing on emotions only...the frontal lobe transplantation is only a means to achieve change in BR's emotions and feelings....
And other strange thing, psychopath has difficulty with distinguishing between smells and also in identifying smell...but BR could tell YH's mint scent...and even more strange that he has problem with it after surgery.
It is also quite strange that BR could remember every detail of his past deeds so quickly....i mean it's just too easy for BR in almost anything...in killing in physical stamina and skills, in recovering from serious brain injury and surgery...
But let's see how the writer will wrap this all up.
He cleans up himself and covers the wound with his hair before he talks to the mother. Unless you think it really…
If it is his brain then the blood wouldn't come out from his forehead or brow....except his cranial was breaking but that would make him fainted.
But it could be possible that when he got that painful attack on his brain, he scratched his surgical wound and it bleed. But then when he saw the woman he sweep out the blood with his hand due to him being nervous....
If it can't be explained then it's just bad editing...
Daniel might be a shady character but I don't think that he was the mastermind behind BR's actions, the one that…
I think as far as BR as a subject of experiment, both DL and HSJ are somehow in a competition, though what drives them to do what they didi/do are different, HSJ was very furious when he knew DL has succeeded in his research, while him as someone who open the way for DL still not achieved his supposed drem. Just like BR, HSJ also has god complex as we are shown that he contemplate how DL was trying to rob him his divine realm. DL after got the anonimous package with mices...he thought it was from HSJ and he indeed observed the one left that seemed to be a docile mice while the other one ..the aggressive one ran away and found by the young BR in yellow coat.
So DL must have something to do as well with having that politician lady to beg for HSJ to do the brain transplant. HSJ might found out something about BR prior to the surgery and also about YH because he changed his mind pretty quickly. DL knew HSJ with his big ego wouldn't miss the chance to finish his experiment on human being. DL must have known everything he should know about BR as well. He also as he told BR he knew HSJ's experiment on mice only short lived, so it's still a failure in the end from science perspective, DL must have wanted to make use of BR and also HSJ's skill to make up for his past mistake. He knew BR was a predator, YH failed to kill BR himself, knowing BR might forgot all his past due to brain injury, and that means he'll never be punished for things he did. So brain surgery is needed...to plant that part of YH's frontal lobe so BR could be used to hunt other predators while also being punished by feeling remorse and guilt...including towards all the past memories if they ever recover which they did quite fast.
DL know BR as a lab rat for HSJ experiment would not live long, so he should make good use of BR when they have time. Still something is quite unclear....how YH's head show no sign of his head being cut open, SJE must have noticed that because she saw his body next day.
And HSJ is quite powerful in the prison, though he's in prison he could have someone to monitor and help BR from prison..because as a scientist he needed to follow up with BR's current condition. Success means the subject of experiments live well past surgery...not just a month or two. So I think we'll need to see more of HSJ in later episodes.
when Sung Ji Eun said, "I'd better kill you, monster" in first or second episode also in another episode after…
It was JH that SJE was trying to kill and say all those things to. And now we are shown that JH is BR by BR's own memory picturing himself as JH after he killed MC's bro.
Something must have happened back then when YH and BR were children or even younger...that caused YH ended up raised by SJE and BR was raised by Jae family. At this point we can only expect SJE to reveal herself what's happened with these two boys and how they ended up in the family they were in. So we can only wait for the revelation concerning this.
And indeed if you watched carefully ep 1. When SJE came for the test result, she was hysteric and assuming DL silence as confirmation that her baby was psychopathic "predator" like HH. In all that DL said nothing, he only responded to when she wanted to abort the baby. HH was genius, he said that himself, but he also show the trait of psychopath, and then nurtured himself to be the predator. So was JH, JH was psychopathic but his upbringing, his environment only provoke and nurturing him further to become a predator later on. YH is a genius, he show no psychoathic trait at all in him. DL mistake was he thought that YH was HH's son, and he said it was his mistake....that he thought YH was a genius but when he came back to Korea due to HJ invitation to talk about SK, he thought YH was psychopath and thus think he made mistake (but at this point DL is also suspicious, he said one thing to BR but then talk differently over the phone about BR's memory. So when YH was alive they met and YH indeed got the test result from DL...whatever the content is...we can only wait again.
So, JBR can literally teleport. He was in a car and still killing the priest as well as talking to ko moo chi…
Was troubled with all this at first too, like how come he's able to kidnap then kidnap another kid and then manage to do all the crimes so time efficiently. The scenes were shown fast paced, but the "actual" might be that it could be explained that he could indeed manage the time (the tiime was enough for him to do all that) and he's completely healed from his leg injury. I have some trouble to comprehend how his leg recover that fast when he got hit by a car, and how he could put the cast off and on again when he did all that...the only explanation is that the actual time for him to do all that is longer than what's shown, so he could manage to do all that and that the places aren't that far from each other so he could manage to do all that efficiently....or....he has an accomplice....
If not...this all really make no sense...so let's see further from investigation (like KMC was counting how long it takes to move the box from CK actual crime scene to the stage: only took 3 mins)...and by the look of his killing, BR actually really fast in his killing...he understand human anatomy very well by the pics on secret cellar wall...it helps him to hit or stab his victim in the right place....
He cleans up himself and covers the wound with his hair before he talks to the mother. Unless you think it really…
I think there have been some scenes like that too:
1. When BR tried to fix BY's granny goatman bandaid...it was opened, he just touched it but not putting it back, so it was left hanging...strange thing is, it didn't fell of right after granny walking here and there, but just so rightly fell off in YH's house.
2. When BR forgot his phone at BY's place, he didn't wear any bandaid on his hand (he supposed to have it on because he hit his hand with a stone to prevent him killing MC)...but we didn't see him wearing it when he crossed path with KDS. But then the scene moved to him back in the office he had it on, he was collecting the toothbrushes to be given to DL...he had it on, then when he was about to finish collecting it, the bandaid was gone again.
Now this, he was walking with his head blooded and everyone was seeing it, then he saw HK's mom...he walked straight to her...and then the blood gone too...he could wipe it off while walking though....
If this is not something significant then it's bad editing, as we know they didn't pre-produce the drama but it's ongoing production. The problem with this kind of production is the limited editing timeline, so there's flaw here and there.
I just had a crazy thought and I'm curious about your thoughts on it:When Daniel Lee mentioned he made a mistake,…
It couldn't be so. Because assembly-man Shin made the vote to drop the bill, because he just got the news from his wife that she's pregnant, that's the reason why he made that decisive vote. While SJE was on her final weeks of pregnancy. So it would be impossible for DL to switch the babies. The only possible thing is that he switched the reports.
DL looked really concerned and troubled for his mistake in the past. That could only mean one thing, the politician son is a predator, that is why he tried to persuade BR to kill the predator. Indeed BR need someone on equal foot with him to confront him, so we can see his development instead of him going around killing sk....there must be someone (the antagonist to BR's character) that will help BR to draw the line betweebgo right and wrong. And that would fit the "mouse vs. snake scene" too...that an experinented mouse will be able to kill/ wounded/defeated its natural predator - that black rat snake.
I think these two episodes will show the direction of where all this goes: To start giving answers or asking more…
Didn't this story based on a real murder case?and the case itself has two convicted persons, they plan it together, one carrying out the actual murder and one following it on the other side?and they both laugh and enjoy the fact they killed a person? So I guess this drama would take some points from that case to build the story.
It's kinda ironic that BR was playing magic at the prison-show. So it could be the case... there's rabbit pulled out from the hat because if BR was the SK he couldn't be doing some killings by his own, especially the one with very limited time available for him. Except we're fooled that the time frame was longer than shown. There must be someone else, either another sk or an accomplice. And it is not lazy imo because if BR was a sk all along, he needs someone on equal foot with him to confront him. Kike he couldn't be the protaginist turned antagonist couldn't be anti-hero dark hero and whatnot if there's no one who exactly like him and equal with him to confront him and to draw the line between the character.
But then...let's see what writter still has up her sleeve...
Making detective Shin the serial killer will sound so much like those cheap movie thrillers that I enjoy watching,…
The problem is YH and BR are around the same age. If BR is HH's real son, he's only months older than YH. So YH couldn't be Jae Min since he's years younger than JH.
Making detective Shin the serial killer will sound so much like those cheap movie thrillers that I enjoy watching,…
I edited my comments adding my response to part of your comments that I missed to reply.
I have the similar opinions as yours actually and I have made the similar comments somewhere down there. I noticed when he asked his brother out, his mother was in the kitchen wearing white (if i remember it correctly) and SJE was in brown coat, dressed for going out. I think they all live in the same neighborhood. So SJE could keep an eye on JH...and that day she saw the whole incident and rushly came to JH's bro's rescue and tried to strangle JH to death.
But the problem is...where's JH's mom? There are 3 body bags in the picture yet the newspaper said he killed his entire family?this quite confusing (could it be a mistranslation?). And why SJE raised another son (YH) as her own? Letting him to bear all the harsh accusation as HH's son, letting him growing up being bullied by his friends? Why she changed her name if people can still recognize YH as HH's son...YH was badly bullied to the point he almost commit suicide, HJ saved him and encouraged him to live on. If she wanted HH to know that his son is dead, wouldn't it better for her to not having a son whose age is close to her own son? Why the need to raise YH as her own?to have him go through all this and ended up dead as a stained name...poor YH.
I also think HJ first kill was that boxer not his family. Because when he narrated his first murder, the scene presented was of that boxer's burned body with the killer watching him died.
And I do think the boxer might be the one who killed his father and siblings...but how the boxer know JH was HH and SJE's son if JH wasn't raised by SJE? Why not targeting YH?because if YH wasn't JH but raised by SJE as her son, the boxer should targetting young YH instead of JH.
Sure if BR was a psychopath he would chose friends that are gullible and naive. And someone he could copy their emotions or expression to make him look innocent and naive too, since he can't by nature feel certain emotions and how to express them properly, so he needs people he can learn from secretly.
Everything seemed to be clear superficially but they really aren't clear until the writer make them clear.
I just hope the writer will start to untangle things that need to be untangled and not go deeper in convoluting the story.
Making detective Shin the serial killer will sound so much like those cheap movie thrillers that I enjoy watching,…
Lol, I didn't enrich his time on screen, I was just presenting my observation on his airtime and give thoughts of them, and i don't know about cheap movie thrillers you enjoy watching too, but imho, you can never know what's in a psycho sk head. Even BR, he looked all nice and sweet, always giving his helping hand, presenting himself as a weak that even his partners wonder of he fits the job, pretending that he loved animals but everyone knows that he's a sk now... it's cheap too to portray him as so while we all can guess it too easily that he's a SK all from the start. Now even this story might be about BR's journey mainly but this is not just about him, but about people around him too, about his victims too (especially them who he know close, if he killed them like BY's granny CK, the priest).
No worries, no hard feelings on my part ;-) that's all only personal opinion, that det.Shin fit a picture of predator that hid well in plain sight. And if he's one then he's a better predator than BR was...because no one ever suspect him due to his profile and no one would even believe if he could kill someone...this reminds me when HJ told MC about he boxer "he would never hurt a fly" and MC replied her "who knows?" Really you can never know if writer has something like that up her sleeve ;-)
And I don't think it would affect BR's story also, it would serve him a good pretext as someone on equal foot to confront with. There must be someone equal to BR to confront so we can see his character development...someone who is not a victim to challenge his limit and when he could draw that line....knowing what it means to feel remorse and guilt, and the pain arise from both emotions. Because if he just easy kills every SK out there, there will be no stop line for him. Then again, this is just personal opinion, everyone can agree or disagree with....
Yes, I wonder if that boxer indeed intentionally saved HH's wife so he could avenge his sister's death on the son later on, and that son killed him for revenge too, interesting question is who the sk is taking revenge for?BR has that flashback of boxer's death and we can only assume BR did that, and the only person related to HH and SJE is their son, so BR is the son of HH, but SJE also related to JH, so it seems that BR is JH. With that we can connect the dots...that boxer might be the killer of JH's (step) fsther and his two siblings forcing JH to took the fall. Even JH might hate his father and siblings, as a pyschopath with tendency of predator he wouldn't want anyone to harm them but himself, it's like someone robbing him his revenge.
And about the live broadcast, BR was not nowhere to be seen, he was busy being an errand boy for MC. He was also there at the studio when they noticed that the video was changed, he chased the deliveryman and thrown himself on the running bike. But the thing is, everything happened very fast, how can he manage to do all those things in the short time? He was at the police station then go to the church, changed clothes and taking off the cast, and then live broadcasting killing BR's bro and then staging him, and then manage to fight with BY and then police arrived, he had very limited time to change again and put back on the cast on his leg and then run to a distance so no one will not notice him, get in a taxi and back to the church...interesting thing is that YH was there too...what YH did there?if he witness all what BR did there, why didn'y he stop him or help the priest at all, the same thing also with BY's granny, he was there too but if it wasn't him, why he just let the man killing the poor old granny? It still bother me...if YH wasn't the killer, he knew and even witness the killing why didn't he stopped or confronted him right there?why didn't he help the victims? Could he arrived there later?only the writer knows :D
And i guess this drama will end when it ends as said. Everything in between (including viewers comments are just flavors, everyone according to their own taste).
1. There were three babies related to DL at the time when the bill was dropped and HH was caught, one of them is baby Shin that still in his mother womb. His father was at the time came from the president's party that supporting the bill to be passed, but due to his wife pregnancy he made the one final decisive vote against the bill to be approved, causing the president secretary lady to say "you stole your son's future of world without war and crimes" - thiw could mean det. Shin might be victim of sk too?that his father would regret hie vote back then?
2. Being the only son of a preminent family, whose presence was expected for 10 years by his parents, he chose to be a low rank police detective and at the same time can't help but wearing branded stuffs showing how spoiled he is. This could be nothing, but a little bit unusual choice for a spoiled child of a politician.
3. The murder of the vlogger girl (the killer was browsing the street in quite a luxury car?) But the sk was riding the car looking for easy prey. Idk BR could be having secrets too, like having a car and secret hideout where he spent time planning murders and keeping his trophies there, watching the news about his murders, etc. But the same suspicion can be applied to det.Shin too. Interesting story about the girl, she was fed with medicine for after-brain surgery but was told it's for her eating disorder?YH was her surgeon, so he would know what kind of medicine he prescribed to his patient. Though YH still main sus, it's still don't fit him, as a surgeon.
4. Besides BY's granny, only det.Shin ever seen YH's friend face to face, and only him and KMC knew about YH's friend. He's smart and quick that is why KMC keep asking him doing things. When he met with YH's friend, he tricked him, by borrowing his phone to call office but in fact to check if the the friend contacted YH recently, and he got that, YH answered the call and asked if the friend did as he was told. He was also the one who found YH's friend body, and took YH to look at his friend's body at the morgue. YH's expression seeing his friend's body isn't expression expected from a predator yet det.Shin expression shows nothing...
5. Like BR, he's all kind and nice, he also helpful, always at your service kind of person. Unlike BR who can't stand dead animals and seemed to be weak physically, det.Shin is very active and engaging. He enjoys his work as a detective and being on crime scenes. He even like being on HJ show. BR also was interested in violent crimes that he asked KMC if he can follow him to crime scenes too though.-- late add: i forgot he took the coffee sachet evidence from MC's desk and made it for HJ to drink. He was going somewhere to make coffee but then how come he took the only coffee without asking MC? It seems like nothing but it just a bit off.
6. I might be wrong but from what I remember, he wasn't there when all the kidnapping case happening and all the libe broadcast thing, but we then shown that he was the one found YH's friend body. BR was wearing cast, and when the kidnap happened he was still at the hospital, so his movement actually limited, while the crime happening quite fast and continuos from kidnapping the boy, kidnapping the other boy, then killing MC's priest bro, fighting BY, got hurt...he couldn't manage it all within a short time frame except he has help.
6. Det. Shin began to taken interest in BR's newfound "intelligence"....like he's keeping an eye of him...as if he worried if BR could uncover something maybe? But it could be nothing too. While he asked BR about how BR could use the technical language when asking the doctor about the body of the murdered lady that was staged as suicide, it looked like an innocent quiestion, but he seemed suspicious of BR.
7. He was the one who noticed that the girl Yu Na was lying and explained to MC how he knew the girl was lying...he said it himself that he knows children psychology. It always bother me the way someone lured the boy to be kidnapped, like the person know the boy would keep following the bait....because it's a childplay.
8. Normally, no boyfriend in his right mind would let his gf to be involved with someone who we know or believe to be a kidnapper and sk, even if the girl was willing to help. Because his gf life is at stake...sure if YH was a sk, he wouldn't kill her right then and there, but she's exposed and he could track and kill her later on...so why let her gf take such a risk? And then we got to be surprised also that the gf was the daughter of the man of a man convicted as sk (falsy accused). But it's just unusual considering his family background. Now even his farher is suspicious because he use that fact when it was known to public for his own political gain for the coming election.
All could be nothing, and det.Lee indeed just a sweet and cute police detective after all. He's been highlighted quite alot in recent episodes...his marriage and his gf pregnancy and then later his father finally back in the scene..it is too obvious that writer is trying to build a connecting dot with det. Shin now...whether he's a killer or a victim later on...he's suspicious and his father looked like that lawyer killer's ex detective dad, a father who would do anything and everything to cover up for his son's dirty deeds. But maybe his father just a good man who wouldn't mind his son has a wife with such background considering his high profile life.
Again this could be wrong...detective Shin could be just another detective, yet he fits the pucture of a predator hiding in plain sight, just like BR if he's also predator all along.
And I think what she actually mean is to hurt HJ for hiding it from her and she thought that HJ only care because she felt guilty and pittying her...and she like everyone else still think YH is a SK...sometimes you can't just hold back the temptation to hurt someone..and because you couldn't do that physically you can only use evil words to hurt their feelings...and that's what BY did to HJ and it works.
And BR is a changed person now...with all the guilt and remorse, he even wanted to suicide twice already, I think he might wanted KC to caught and kill him himself...because it would only proper for him to die in MC's hand and for everyone else's sake too...I don't think he'll want to kill KC now he recovered his past and felt so guilty he killed people he has close relationship with then and now.
And also adding to all that KC insulted him by calling him a rat (KC of course didn't know that he is a SK) and also when KC shaid he's ashamed that for an intance he feared HH. In this KC actually being arrogant and prideful, he know how to draw a line between right and wrong, and also to not fear nor curious or interestest in criminals...he has his pride being a good citizen and a proud of his job. So I think...just my opinion, he's not entirely fit for BR's victim qualification. Him entitling to BR things he did,I found it strange that BR took it as him being too humble....a predator like him would take it as an insult...because he's being looked down upon (though it was all his ruse to play weak to begin with),but an arrogant psychopath like BR if course would take humble gesture as an insult...though he could benefit from that too...like people seeing him as a hero...but the insult remains...he's a hero because CK gave him the credit while everyone knows that he's a weak person. So it's kinda strange in my opinion that BR literally took it as CK being too humble. I think CK a person with pride...he's proud of his job and he's not ashamed of doing what is right in his sight...that can be called pride too....so sad that this good man had to be another victim....
And it could be the same for the fan club, he might be using it indirectly to have someone/some people to help BR . The purpose I think is to help BR recover his memory, that he might remember who he was before. HSJ knew who BR is the moment he meet him in the eyes at close range when HSJ helped give CK onsite emergency surgery...he gave him that look like telling him"I know who you
are boy"...and BR also seemed to have some respect from him the moment he saw him and said to CK that HSJ looked like normal person despite there's a monster inside him. I think he was there to make impression to HSJ and that the man took acknowledged that. First I thought HSJ was concerned about YH's memory would take over BR's, but when I revisited that scene, he genuinely concerned if BR would lose his predator nature to YH's part of brain that regulating emotions. So I think yes, he possibly wanted to see that his glorious achievement as you said to have a long last, to survive well. So he might want to keep BR safe too, remember when he boasted to DL about brain transplant as a mean to control someone's life? To be like a deity? He meant that. He wanted to control BR to some extent, but he couldn't do that openly or directly as it would only provoke BR to resisting him, the way he did with DL.
And DL would bother to trouble himself for making sure BR in his "control" too...because now BR is the only predator with emotions. He wouldn't miss a chance to observe and doing his own experiment with him. Now that his activity is illegal and his own existence now also illegal (he is not Korean citizen), he also have limited time with BR, so I think he would take risks too...we don't know yet also who is behind him and financed him, he has resources so he will make use of them.
Now either DL is aware that there's someone else who cleaned up after BR in HK case and in other cases, or they probably working together....DL could be working with HSJ too, who knows, even enemies could work together when they share the same interest...but we can't know until we get to know that....
Both HSJ and DL already aware of BR from before surgery, that I'm sure..now after surgery....HSJ might wanted BR to recover his authobiographical memories...to recover his past self...and so does DL but for very different reasons...one so BR will remember that he is a predator and to remain so...and DL.in the other hand wanted BR to not quickly remembering his past, because it will be hard to control him once he got all his memory back...they will never know what he'll do...that is why when he still confuse he insisted BR to do him favors....and when BR recover all his memory he's in panic mode....
So yes...let's see...how things will turn in remaining episodes.
So yes, let's see how the writer wrap things up, thus far we seen she did good job with untangling things one by one as the episodes go...so we can expect every thing will be wrapped up good without leaving any plot holes....all will be wrapped up properly.
I actually made comments about the brain injury BR had...the doctors definitely telling the press that BR have severe frontal and tempral lobe damage. But BR only had partial frontal lobe transplantation. There is no mention of how they dealt with his temporal love damage.
While temporal lobe damage could have some serious effects entailed. Among others is memory, most common is the inability to form new memories, but in severe cases, it could erase autobiographical memories...that could lead to drastic personality change. Like you can't remember who yourself is...it might be recovered over time with treatment and therapy regulary over periode of times...and BR wonderfully recovered his memory back in just a year and even wonderfully no signs on temporal lobe damage happened to BR other than he can't stand the smell of his favorite food, he forgot it's favorite food and that he couldn't recognize faces after surgery and over time he could remember them...
Now brain surgery itself has its side effects...now we're falking about brain transplant. It's even more complicated we can't just insert a replacement without causing quite a stir in the brain. The brain is like a circuit, it needs to be stable and in harmony...in balance state...but when it's injured it is in chaos...like other region of the brain is working hard to recompensate the function of damaged region. Now putting in new foreign part...other regions of brain literally forced to change in order to adapt to the newly added part...so we can expect all kinds of weird things happening...adding to that side effects of the damaged parts...so yea a it is possible for BR to have problems differentiate between reality and his imagination or perception...
But I don't think the writer is focusing on other things related to brain injury and transplant...she focusing on emotions only...the frontal lobe transplantation is only a means to achieve change in BR's emotions and feelings....
And other strange thing, psychopath has difficulty with distinguishing between smells and also in identifying smell...but BR could tell YH's mint scent...and even more strange that he has problem with it after surgery.
It is also quite strange that BR could remember every detail of his past deeds so quickly....i mean it's just too easy for BR in almost anything...in killing in physical stamina and skills, in recovering from serious brain injury and surgery...
But let's see how the writer will wrap this all up.
But it could be possible that when he got that painful attack on his brain, he scratched his surgical wound and it bleed. But then when he saw the woman he sweep out the blood with his hand due to him being nervous....
If it can't be explained then it's just bad editing...
So DL must have something to do as well with having that politician lady to beg for HSJ to do the brain transplant. HSJ might found out something about BR prior to the surgery and also about YH because he changed his mind pretty quickly. DL knew HSJ with his big ego wouldn't miss the chance to finish his experiment on human being. DL must have known everything he should know about BR as well. He also as he told BR he knew HSJ's experiment on mice only short lived, so it's still a failure in the end from science perspective, DL must have wanted to make use of BR and also HSJ's skill to make up for his past mistake. He knew BR was a predator, YH failed to kill BR himself, knowing BR might forgot all his past due to brain injury, and that means he'll never be punished for things he did. So brain surgery is needed...to plant that part of YH's frontal lobe so BR could be used to hunt other predators while also being punished by feeling remorse and guilt...including towards all the past memories if they ever recover which they did quite fast.
DL know BR as a lab rat for HSJ experiment would not live long, so he should make good use of BR when they have time. Still something is quite unclear....how YH's head show no sign of his head being cut open, SJE must have noticed that because she saw his body next day.
And HSJ is quite powerful in the prison, though he's in prison he could have someone to monitor and help BR from prison..because as a scientist he needed to follow up with BR's current condition. Success means the subject of experiments live well past surgery...not just a month or two. So I think we'll need to see more of HSJ in later episodes.
Something must have happened back then when YH and BR were children or even younger...that caused YH ended up raised by SJE and BR was raised by Jae family. At this point we can only expect SJE to reveal herself what's happened with these two boys and how they ended up in the family they were in. So we can only wait for the revelation concerning this.
And indeed if you watched carefully ep 1. When SJE came for the test result, she was hysteric and assuming DL silence as confirmation that her baby was psychopathic "predator" like HH. In all that DL said nothing, he only responded to when she wanted to abort the baby. HH was genius, he said that himself, but he also show the trait of psychopath, and then nurtured himself to be the predator. So was JH, JH was psychopathic but his upbringing, his environment only provoke and nurturing him further to become a predator later on. YH is a genius, he show no psychoathic trait at all in him. DL mistake was he thought that YH was HH's son, and he said it was his mistake....that he thought YH was a genius but when he came back to Korea due to HJ invitation to talk about SK, he thought YH was psychopath and thus think he made mistake (but at this point DL is also suspicious, he said one thing to BR but then talk differently over the phone about BR's memory. So when YH was alive they met and YH indeed got the test result from DL...whatever the content is...we can only wait again.
If not...this all really make no sense...so let's see further from investigation (like KMC was counting how long it takes to move the box from CK actual crime scene to the stage: only took 3 mins)...and by the look of his killing, BR actually really fast in his killing...he understand human anatomy very well by the pics on secret cellar wall...it helps him to hit or stab his victim in the right place....
1. When BR tried to fix BY's granny goatman bandaid...it was opened, he just touched it but not putting it back, so it was left hanging...strange thing is, it didn't fell of right after granny walking here and there, but just so rightly fell off in YH's house.
2. When BR forgot his phone at BY's place, he didn't wear any bandaid on his hand (he supposed to have it on because he hit his hand with a stone to prevent him killing MC)...but we didn't see him wearing it when he crossed path with KDS. But then the scene moved to him back in the office he had it on, he was collecting the toothbrushes to be given to DL...he had it on, then when he was about to finish collecting it, the bandaid was gone again.
Now this, he was walking with his head blooded and everyone was seeing it, then he saw HK's mom...he walked straight to her...and then the blood gone too...he could wipe it off while walking though....
If this is not something significant then it's bad editing, as we know they didn't pre-produce the drama but it's ongoing production. The problem with this kind of production is the limited editing timeline, so there's flaw here and there.
DL looked really concerned and troubled for his mistake in the past. That could only mean one thing, the politician son is a predator, that is why he tried to persuade BR to kill the predator. Indeed BR need someone on equal foot with him to confront him, so we can see his development instead of him going around killing sk....there must be someone (the antagonist to BR's character) that will help BR to draw the line betweebgo right and wrong. And that would fit the "mouse vs. snake scene" too...that an experinented mouse will be able to kill/ wounded/defeated its natural predator - that black rat snake.
It's kinda ironic that BR was playing magic at the prison-show. So it could be the case... there's rabbit pulled out from the hat because if BR was the SK he couldn't be doing some killings by his own, especially the one with very limited time available for him. Except we're fooled that the time frame was longer than shown. There must be someone else, either another sk or an accomplice. And it is not lazy imo because if BR was a sk all along, he needs someone on equal foot with him to confront him. Kike he couldn't be the protaginist turned antagonist couldn't be anti-hero dark hero and whatnot if there's no one who exactly like him and equal with him to confront him and to draw the line between the character.
But then...let's see what writter still has up her sleeve...
I have the similar opinions as yours actually and I have made the similar comments somewhere down there. I noticed when he asked his brother out, his mother was in the kitchen wearing white (if i remember it correctly) and SJE was in brown coat, dressed for going out. I think they all live in the same neighborhood. So SJE could keep an eye on JH...and that day she saw the whole incident and rushly came to JH's bro's rescue and tried to strangle JH to death.
But the problem is...where's JH's mom? There are 3 body bags in the picture yet the newspaper said he killed his entire family?this quite confusing (could it be a mistranslation?). And why SJE raised another son (YH) as her own? Letting him to bear all the harsh accusation as HH's son, letting him growing up being bullied by his friends? Why she changed her name if people can still recognize YH as HH's son...YH was badly bullied to the point he almost commit suicide, HJ saved him and encouraged him to live on. If she wanted HH to know that his son is dead, wouldn't it better for her to not having a son whose age is close to her own son? Why the need to raise YH as her own?to have him go through all this and ended up dead as a stained name...poor YH.
I also think HJ first kill was that boxer not his family. Because when he narrated his first murder, the scene presented was of that boxer's burned body with the killer watching him died.
And I do think the boxer might be the one who killed his father and siblings...but how the boxer know JH was HH and SJE's son if JH wasn't raised by SJE? Why not targeting YH?because if YH wasn't JH but raised by SJE as her son, the boxer should targetting young YH instead of JH.
Sure if BR was a psychopath he would chose friends that are gullible and naive. And someone he could copy their emotions or expression to make him look innocent and naive too, since he can't by nature feel certain emotions and how to express them properly, so he needs people he can learn from secretly.
Everything seemed to be clear superficially but they really aren't clear until the writer make them clear.
I just hope the writer will start to untangle things that need to be untangled and not go deeper in convoluting the story.
No worries, no hard feelings on my part ;-) that's all only personal opinion, that det.Shin fit a picture of predator that hid well in plain sight. And if he's one then he's a better predator than BR was...because no one ever suspect him due to his profile and no one would even believe if he could kill someone...this reminds me when HJ told MC about he boxer "he would never hurt a fly" and MC replied her "who knows?" Really you can never know if writer has something like that up her sleeve ;-)
And I don't think it would affect BR's story also, it would serve him a good pretext as someone on equal foot to confront with. There must be someone equal to BR to confront so we can see his character development...someone who is not a victim to challenge his limit and when he could draw that line....knowing what it means to feel remorse and guilt, and the pain arise from both emotions. Because if he just easy kills every SK out there, there will be no stop line for him. Then again, this is just personal opinion, everyone can agree or disagree with....
Yes, I wonder if that boxer indeed intentionally saved HH's wife so he could avenge his sister's death on the son later on, and that son killed him for revenge too, interesting question is who the sk is taking revenge for?BR has that flashback of boxer's death and we can only assume BR did that, and the only person related to HH and SJE is their son, so BR is the son of HH, but SJE also related to JH, so it seems that BR is JH. With that we can connect the dots...that boxer might be the killer of JH's (step) fsther and his two siblings forcing JH to took the fall. Even JH might hate his father and siblings, as a pyschopath with tendency of predator he wouldn't want anyone to harm them but himself, it's like someone robbing him his revenge.
And about the live broadcast, BR was not nowhere to be seen, he was busy being an errand boy for MC. He was also there at the studio when they noticed that the video was changed, he chased the deliveryman and thrown himself on the running bike. But the thing is, everything happened very fast, how can he manage to do all those things in the short time? He was at the police station then go to the church, changed clothes and taking off the cast, and then live broadcasting killing BR's bro and then staging him, and then manage to fight with BY and then police arrived, he had very limited time to change again and put back on the cast on his leg and then run to a distance so no one will not notice him, get in a taxi and back to the church...interesting thing is that YH was there too...what YH did there?if he witness all what BR did there, why didn'y he stop him or help the priest at all, the same thing also with BY's granny, he was there too but if it wasn't him, why he just let the man killing the poor old granny? It still bother me...if YH wasn't the killer, he knew and even witness the killing why didn't he stopped or confronted him right there?why didn't he help the victims? Could he arrived there later?only the writer knows :D
And i guess this drama will end when it ends as said. Everything in between (including viewers comments are just flavors, everyone according to their own taste).
1. There were three babies related to DL at the time when the bill was dropped and HH was caught, one of them is baby Shin that still in his mother womb. His father was at the time came from the president's party that supporting the bill to be passed, but due to his wife pregnancy he made the one final decisive vote against the bill to be approved, causing the president secretary lady to say "you stole your son's future of world without war and crimes" - thiw could mean det. Shin might be victim of sk too?that his father would regret hie vote back then?
2. Being the only son of a preminent family, whose presence was expected for 10 years by his parents, he chose to be a low rank police detective and at the same time can't help but wearing branded stuffs showing how spoiled he is. This could be nothing, but a little bit unusual choice for a spoiled child of a politician.
3. The murder of the vlogger girl (the killer was browsing the street in quite a luxury car?) But the sk was riding the car looking for easy prey. Idk BR could be having secrets too, like having a car and secret hideout where he spent time planning murders and keeping his trophies there, watching the news about his murders, etc. But the same suspicion can be applied to det.Shin too. Interesting story about the girl, she was fed with medicine for after-brain surgery but was told it's for her eating disorder?YH was her surgeon, so he would know what kind of medicine he prescribed to his patient. Though YH still main sus, it's still don't fit him, as a surgeon.
4. Besides BY's granny, only det.Shin ever seen YH's friend face to face, and only him and KMC knew about YH's friend. He's smart and quick that is why KMC keep asking him doing things. When he met with YH's friend, he tricked him, by borrowing his phone to call office but in fact to check if the the friend contacted YH recently, and he got that, YH answered the call and asked if the friend did as he was told. He was also the one who found YH's friend body, and took YH to look at his friend's body at the morgue. YH's expression seeing his friend's body isn't expression expected from a predator yet det.Shin expression shows nothing...
5. Like BR, he's all kind and nice, he also helpful, always at your service kind of person. Unlike BR who can't stand dead animals and seemed to be weak physically, det.Shin is very active and engaging. He enjoys his work as a detective and being on crime scenes. He even like being on HJ show. BR also was interested in violent crimes that he asked KMC if he can follow him to crime scenes too though.-- late add: i forgot he took the coffee sachet evidence from MC's desk and made it for HJ to drink. He was going somewhere to make coffee but then how come he took the only coffee without asking MC? It seems like nothing but it just a bit off.
6. I might be wrong but from what I remember, he wasn't there when all the kidnapping case happening and all the libe broadcast thing, but we then shown that he was the one found YH's friend body. BR was wearing cast, and when the kidnap happened he was still at the hospital, so his movement actually limited, while the crime happening quite fast and continuos from kidnapping the boy, kidnapping the other boy, then killing MC's priest bro, fighting BY, got hurt...he couldn't manage it all within a short time frame except he has help.
6. Det. Shin began to taken interest in BR's newfound "intelligence"....like he's keeping an eye of him...as if he worried if BR could uncover something maybe? But it could be nothing too. While he asked BR about how BR could use the technical language when asking the doctor about the body of the murdered lady that was staged as suicide, it looked like an innocent quiestion, but he seemed suspicious of BR.
7. He was the one who noticed that the girl Yu Na was lying and explained to MC how he knew the girl was lying...he said it himself that he knows children psychology. It always bother me the way someone lured the boy to be kidnapped, like the person know the boy would keep following the bait....because it's a childplay.
8. Normally, no boyfriend in his right mind would let his gf to be involved with someone who we know or believe to be a kidnapper and sk, even if the girl was willing to help. Because his gf life is at stake...sure if YH was a sk, he wouldn't kill her right then and there, but she's exposed and he could track and kill her later on...so why let her gf take such a risk? And then we got to be surprised also that the gf was the daughter of the man of a man convicted as sk (falsy accused). But it's just unusual considering his family background. Now even his farher is suspicious because he use that fact when it was known to public for his own political gain for the coming election.
All could be nothing, and det.Lee indeed just a sweet and cute police detective after all. He's been highlighted quite alot in recent episodes...his marriage and his gf pregnancy and then later his father finally back in the scene..it is too obvious that writer is trying to build a connecting dot with det. Shin now...whether he's a killer or a victim later on...he's suspicious and his father looked like that lawyer killer's ex detective dad, a father who would do anything and everything to cover up for his son's dirty deeds. But maybe his father just a good man who wouldn't mind his son has a wife with such background considering his high profile life.
Again this could be wrong...detective Shin could be just another detective, yet he fits the pucture of a predator hiding in plain sight, just like BR if he's also predator all along.