Robin

indeed, this makes no sense. but oh well 🤷‍♀️

"look like old men without teeth trying to chew something"
"constipated" etc.
What strange things to say out loud in those comments about Heng...
Is this what we call body-shaming ? 🤓

If you really think about it, for now, this is a series which presents every "romantic" gesture, "love" as a trap designed for obsession and possession, monetary transaction, sex. Indeed it's dark 😭

I really love the details they put in the series. That's what makes it so interesting. Layers I tell you ! Here are some examples :

1. Dan seems like Big Jane 2, well he's using the same tactics, but with an even more sugary approach. See the difference when cutting the -don't remember what it was- ? Big Jane makes a sharp and agressive movement. Dan does it carefully and sweetly, with patience. But both use something which can cut and hurt. Do you think they show this for nothing in the series lol ?

2. Little Jane having those words on his shirt in the art exhibition : "My favorite things" or something like that. He's the "thing" hanging on the wall, during the art exhibition. And the "thing" has a very high price. He's the "thing" pushed back against the wall by Big Jane, after he "bought" him figuratively. The business transaction has already started. You take the reward in your arms. And you only need then a contract to definitely seal it after. Do you think it was also for nothing when they show this in the series ? lol

3. The discussion about color and black and white. Who's in black ? who's in white ? Light and Dark. Two opposites. But they go hand in hand. One cannot exist without the other. Do you think it was also for nothing ? lol

they're not following the novel exactly apparently . so it's possible it will be different. i see the tags supernatural and demon male lead ? so maybe ? or maybe not ? but Big Jane really has the demonic aura for sure.

I like Heng acting ! Very natural and expressive. He literally shines in ep 4... you have Thai viewers who says his acting is great though...since people are not used to thai language and how it sounds, maybe that's why they think like that ? I don't know. I was surprised seeing those kind of comments.

I think because of the first encounter. Little Jane is the only one not getting on his knees and begging for forgiveness when that ball hits the car...No fear in his eyes. That's when the interest starts. And the scene with the gift Little Jane gives him, his reaction and his words are another indication. In those scenes, Little Jane treats him like a normal human being. He's not used to that 😭but his "reputation" and his manipulative nature just prevent him from experiencing that ever again. With the contract, it is really the end of all of this.

At the beginning I have the same opinion as ksm4, but with episode 4, things are clearer. I think you're right. First fell in lust, obsession, strong attraction despite the sense of danger and resistance from Little Jane, now contract with rules about no emotions. then both of them really getting those emotions in the end and hurting each other in the meantime...well, let's see ! I guess the ost is giving an indication "I taste the sin". He tastes the sin first...

So Little Jane is tempted by Big Jane for obvious reasons, some of those reasons occurring in various places, like a classroom 😭 or a shower. And Big Jane is tempted by Little Jane because of the underlying resistance to his control, his straightforwardness, no matter what.

This resistance is what causes Big Jane to kneel down during the break- up scene, defeated. I guess Little Jane is the only one who's been able to do that....He's indeed special in that way. Big Jane, the rich guy, the control freak, the evil one, just doesn't kneel in front of everyone....

The attraction, despite of the sense of danger, is also what pushes Little Jane to ask for the help of Big Jane without considering other options...this time, it's his turn to kneel down in front of Big Jane, defeated. Both scenes mirroring each other;

This shows that, in a way the contract also bounds Big Jane to Little Jane, in a co-dependency...They will both hurt each other while doing so.

😭Me too. Like Big Jane, I have the same repressed glee on my face !

I like Little Jane. People, give him a break 😭 ! He has two (three with the friend) red flags after him and annoyed viewers who say daily he's dumb....Little Jane is not so dumb. He just has a huge crush on someone he shouldn't have. He literally draws those demon wings since day 1... He knows he's bad news but he cannot control his attraction. Temptation of the devil I tell you ! And Little Jane has guts ! Asking for the ball, without fear in his eyes, when he first mets Big Jane, breaks up with the big bad one, uses Dan as a wannabe boyfriend to make Big Jane go away...

So Big Jane has that locket necklace sooooo ready in his pocket two times in this episode; First try fails : the art exhibition with Little Jane photos being sold. Second, bingo with the brother's debt ! He's a scheming little evil who knows an opportunity I'd say 👀He did say Little Jane would crawl back to him, right ?

and I think Dan is definitely not a good person too...selling photos of P'Jane without asking...Maybe he already knew Big Jane would have bought them...that's why he sells them at a high price...

great episode ! Cannot wait for the next !

It feels like that in episode 3, Big Jane loses for the first time, because of Little Jane. He’s humiliated.

Yep. It's too close to reality indeed.

Also another thing and because I know what those people think really : does depicting triggering subjects mean you approve them ? This blows my mind. People thinking that when you depict those scenes, it is because you agree to them or are justifying them...Do you think that every murder scene in a crime movie is because the director approve of murder ? This is an INSANE take.

"There are a lot of ways to effectively depict tension without depicting certain actions." Can you depict everything ? This is something every movies, drama having triggering subjects is confronted too. But does that mean you cannot evoke it ? Talk about it ? Make people think about it ? They should not because people feel ill at ease ? are disturbed ? not comfortable anymore ? I would say it depends on the intention behind, the "purpose", even though the answer to that question is difficult. But if it was really (only ?) for "enjoyment", people would not feel ill at ease....others would not look for excuses to justify Big Janes thoughts and actions, like Little Jane wanting to "defend" him in some ways because he's attracted.... This scene of the "abuse" of the girlfriend make people feel ill at ease. Of course ! No one helps. They just use their phones. Little Jane does help but very late, and does not "protect" the girl in the end...Big Jane has no compassion towards her. But do you expect compassion from someone who likes to control people ? This will make no sense, considering the character he is. That's why Big Jane reaction makes people feel ill at ease. I'm saying this again, but this series has a "subtle" criticism ...and series have the right to offer a point of view on a society...Otherwise, that's called censorship...

It's watchable but lacking in terms of plot and chemistry. The main interest of the series is the prosecutor. But the tsundere-like character being attracted by the doe-like (submissive) character has been done so many times...

Nah. Main reason is because of the "shipping" mindset in BLs viewers. You need in some way to identify with the characters and feel for them lol It's difficult to "root" for a couple if one of them is truly depicted as a red flag. It breaks the "illusion". The problem is that. But if you came with another mindset, for the tension, the curiosity with how all of this will end while having no illusions on those characters and the environment depicted... it will be different. Just like watching horror, you need in a way to distance yourself from the characters and some situations, otherwise, it'll be too stressful and triggering. But still I think those kind of comments makes no sense. It's like expecting a horror show not to be too "horrific".