I get you, I felt there was a certain level of vulnerability/intensity/depth of human fragility missing, if that…
... If people dislike/hate Goblin and WAATH, something is wrong with their opinion and mind/thinking, eg read "etok21"'s comments here (from abt 5 days ago) abt his dislike of the lack of physical romance in this drama. ....... Similarly for those in 8 Club who started to hate HDM after their film debuts bc of their own selfish reasons.
Thanks for this! Among all the raving reviews i was looking for someone to comment on the ml's character, but…
... Repost latest comments for my meaning.
BakeyJen 14 hours ago @SoraEshan Please rewatch the scene, he said they never came to watch movies with him anymore and were hanging out by themselves and when he came to join them, they would not talk much anymore, almost as if he was a nuisance. these were js exact words in that scene. Also when you get to episode 5/6, Gyeon Se will reveal a secret that happened a long time ago, you will start to see that his friends are not good too.
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Michael louwe 15 minutes ago @SoraEshan ... Also, the other 4 directors in the 8 Club successfully debut with films based on HDM's personal stories in college, eg PGS's successful debut film was based on HDM's personal love-crush (on a hoobae) story in college. ....... They kept this a secret and were afraid of HDM finding out. So, they started hating and avoiding him, except for Jun Hwan, who consoled him.
Very well said. I still don't like her but I commend her tenacity. She made a decision and stuck with it. Just…
... You commended her for her choice and her tenacity in sticking with her choice. IOW, you approved of her not-good or evil action or choice.
IRL, we too are sometimes faced with the choice of choosing between good or evil/bad. Oftentimes those who have chosen evil will later be punished with calamities - when they should then repent of their evil/bad choice.
Saying his friends treating him badly is justified is clearly a biased opinion, incase you’re wondering there’s…
... Also, the other 4 directors in the 8 Club successfully debut with films based on HDM's personal stories in college, eg PGS's successful debut film was based on HDM's personal love-crush (on a hoobae) story in college. ....... They kept this a secret and were afraid of HDM finding out. So, they started hating and avoiding him, except for Jun Hwan, who consoled him.
Finally finished this trash show of healing and weird behavior with one of the ugliest , most unappealing male…
... From your Profile page, your favorite actor is Byeon Wooseok whose latest drama, Perfect Crown, just got trashed by knetz. ....... Are you unjustly and madly retaliating here unlike how the ML was justified in retaliating by hating and trashing Park Gyeong Se who had hated the ML first.?
: sexually or romantically attracted to people of the same gender or sex: -- My aunt is gay. -- Mark knew he was gay by the time he was 14. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ gay NOUN
: a gay person, especially a man _ _ _ _ _ _ _
= the word "gay" can be used as an adjective or a noun, eg "You are a gay" or "You are gay".
Same for, "You are a homosexual" or "You are homosexual".
amazing but should have been a few more episodes. the end felt kinda abrupt.
Someone has already commented that nearly all recent kdramas are limited to 12 episodes or less (no more 16 episodes) bc of budget constraints, eg increased fees per episode for the main leads (Netflix effect.?).
The writer's previous 2022 My Liberation Notes drama was 16 episodes.
www.legit.ng/ask-legit/top/1698290-top-highest-paid-korean-actors-ranked-by-episode-salary/ -- 2 March 2026
... QUOTE: "and never established the central relationship as adult-romantic (even though other characters…
... Like I told you, the Bible at Romans1:18-32 says God knowingly changes some people into gays bc they had knowingly rejected Him as the Almighty Creator and Law-Maker (plus Weather Maker). IOW, they hv chosen to be their own god/idol and follow their own laws/rules (= narcissism and subjective views).
So, gayness is a curse of God, similar to criminals being punished in jail by God or His agents/reps. The Bible says God created only males and females = black and white = a binary system as in digital computers. Any other gender outside of His creation is His curse or an anomaly/aberration. Hence we had closet gays b4 the 1960s, eg film star Rock Hudson who died of AIDS in 1985.
Of course, since the 1960s, the more evil liberal political movement in USA and the West has made things better for the gays, eg the liberal West has abolished laws against sodomy = gays could come out publicly and be prideful. Hence we have AIDS/HIV+ (since 1981), monkey pox (since 1971), anal cancer, etc (= God's curses).
GEMINI AI Overview: Binary forms the foundation of digital computing: -- Physical States: Modern computers operate using billions of microscopic electronic switches (transistors). These can only exist in one of two states: on (represented by 1) or off (represented by 0).
... QUOTE: "and never established the central relationship as adult-romantic (even though other characters…
... BL romance is very likely different from BGL romance or straight/"normal" romance. Eg as depicted by the straight/"normal" relationship novel, "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus."
A gay man's view is very likely different from a straight man's view of HDM and Eun A's romantic relationship, eg what will happen to them when they are >80 yo.? and what will happen to a BL or gay couple when they are >80 yo.?
So, you are very likely a closet gay man. Does the mother of your 3 bio-kids know you are gay.?
... QUOTE: "and never established the central relationship as adult-romantic (even though other characters…
... Bc BL romance is very likely different from BGL romance or straight/"normal" romance. Eg as depicted by the straight/"normal" relationship novel, "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus."
A gay man's view is very likely different from a straight man's view of HDM and Eun A's romantic relationship, eg what will happen to them when they are >80 yo.? and what will happen to a BL or gay couple when they are >80 yo.?
After 24 hours pondering how this show was a magnificent joy ride for ten episodes, but went into hyper-rush mode…
... QUOTE: "and never established the central relationship as adult-romantic (even though other characters assured us they "liked" each other, and in that way it was like a Chinese censored BL bromance)"
In effect, you are criticizing the writer, Park Hae Young, as having self-censored this drama of hers like how the Chinese government has censored BL romance dramas. ....... In her last 2 dramas, My Mister and MLN, PHY has also focused her writing not on the romance but on "a slice of life" and/or the meaning of life aspect.
It's likely you do not dig her kind of love dramas. IOW, it's likely you only dig BL dramas.
After 24 hours pondering how this show was a magnificent joy ride for ten episodes, but went into hyper-rush mode…
... QUOTE: "and never established the central relationship as adult-romantic (even though other characters assured us they "liked" each other, and in that way it was like a Chinese censored BL bromance)"
How come you know the Chinese government censors BL romance bc I and most straight men here are not aware of it since we usually do not watch BL and GL dramas.?
... This is bc some people like you do not know how to differentiate between good and evil or innocent and guilty…
... You are the one mistaken.
The Bible has truths which say that people can be in "heaven or hell" in their life on earth and in their afterlife. On earth, it is based on whether they are being blessed or cursed by God for keeping or breaking His Law = Law-abiders vs Law-breakers/evildoers. There is no gray area between Law-keepers being blessed and Law-breakers/evildoers being cursed by God in this life on earth --> and between heaven and hell in the afterlife, if the Bible is true.
Like they say, "Good things happen to good people." ....... IRL, most modern Jews keep God's Law on a best effort basis --> RL statistics/truths or facts say Jews tend to live longer on earth than others.
Eg if IRL, PGS is like in hell on earth having been cursed by God, for hating HDM 1st bc he had secretly based his successful film debut on HDM's personal love-crush story in college (= not crediting HDM) = PGS's latest film, Sister Vengeance, has been a box-office flop with only 300,000 tickets sold = PGS got roasted and humiliated by hateful comments online. ....... In turn, if IRL, CEO Choi suffered huge losses in producing or funding PGS's flopped film. This curse is for Choi bullying Eun A in the office, for Choi's past evildoings of breaking his promise to cast Noh Kang Sik in an earlier film, for his tendency to steal others' film production by betraying them, etc.
"Some of you are going crazy about actual romcoms and forget that REAL ROMANCE is not about "I love you"…
... My imagining is based on a male like DM, a straight heterosexual, and a straight woman like Eun A. ....... You are very likely a male gay = Your imagining is based on a male gay who is unlike DM, and a woman like Eun A. A male gay has no romantic feelings for a straight woman like Eun A. Hence in yr view, it is absolutely possible for a straight woman to put her close male gay friend's face on her chest to comfort him.
So, apples and oranges.
AFAIK, it is rare for a straight woman to have a close male gay friend or even a close straight male friend but quite common for a straight woman to hv a few close straight woman friends.
Also, there is a huge difference between a straight male's face resting on the bosom of a straight woman INSIDE and OUTSIDE her cardigan or sweater.
... This is bc some people like you do not know how to differentiate between good and evil or innocent and guilty…
... Fyi, -- thoughts of hate --> crimes of murder and bullying. -- thoughts of sexual lust --> crimes of sexual molest, harassment, rape, incest, pedophilia, etc. -- thoughts of greed --> crimes of stealing, robbery, burglary, scamming/lying or cheating, etc.
All humans have been born guilty or sinful of "thought crimes" in their mind and heart, even though they may not hv committed any crime in their life (= innocent of crimes).
The Bible says God will be sending "thought criminals" to eternal hell except those who believe in Jesus Christ and His Cross bc they hv been pardoned or forgiven by God.
....... Similarly for those in 8 Club who started to hate HDM after their film debuts bc of their own selfish reasons.
BakeyJen 14 hours ago
@SoraEshan Please rewatch the scene, he said they never came to watch movies with him anymore and were hanging out by themselves and when he came to join them, they would not talk much anymore, almost as if he was a nuisance. these were js exact words in that scene.
Also when you get to episode 5/6, Gyeon Se will reveal a secret that happened a long time ago, you will start to see that his friends are not good too.
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Michael louwe 15 minutes ago
@SoraEshan ... Also, the other 4 directors in the 8 Club successfully debut with films based on HDM's personal stories in college, eg PGS's successful debut film was based on HDM's personal love-crush (on a hoobae) story in college.
....... They kept this a secret and were afraid of HDM finding out. So, they started hating and avoiding him, except for Jun Hwan, who consoled him.
IRL, we too are sometimes faced with the choice of choosing between good or evil/bad. Oftentimes those who have chosen evil will later be punished with calamities - when they should then repent of their evil/bad choice.
....... They kept this a secret and were afraid of HDM finding out. So, they started hating and avoiding him, except for Jun Hwan, who consoled him.
....... Are you unjustly and madly retaliating here unlike how the ML was justified in retaliating by hating and trashing Park Gyeong Se who had hated the ML first.?
Aren't all gay men think they are sexually or romantically attracted to people of the same gender or sex, eg in BL dramas.?
gay
ADJECTIVE
: sexually or romantically attracted to people of the same gender or sex:
-- My aunt is gay.
-- Mark knew he was gay by the time he was 14.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
gay
NOUN
: a gay person, especially a man
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
= the word "gay" can be used as an adjective or a noun, eg "You are a gay" or "You are gay".
Same for, "You are a homosexual" or "You are homosexual".
The writer's previous 2022 My Liberation Notes drama was 16 episodes.
www.legit.ng/ask-legit/top/1698290-top-highest-paid-korean-actors-ranked-by-episode-salary/ -- 2 March 2026
So, gayness is a curse of God, similar to criminals being punished in jail by God or His agents/reps. The Bible says God created only males and females = black and white = a binary system as in digital computers. Any other gender outside of His creation is His curse or an anomaly/aberration. Hence we had closet gays b4 the 1960s, eg film star Rock Hudson who died of AIDS in 1985.
Of course, since the 1960s, the more evil liberal political movement in USA and the West has made things better for the gays, eg the liberal West has abolished laws against sodomy = gays could come out publicly and be prideful. Hence we have AIDS/HIV+ (since 1981), monkey pox (since 1971), anal cancer, etc (= God's curses).
GEMINI AI Overview: Binary forms the foundation of digital computing:
-- Physical States: Modern computers operate using billions of microscopic electronic switches (transistors). These can only exist in one of two states: on (represented by 1) or off (represented by 0).
There is also no gray area in digital computing.
A gay man's view is very likely different from a straight man's view of HDM and Eun A's romantic relationship, eg what will happen to them when they are >80 yo.? and what will happen to a BL or gay couple when they are >80 yo.?
So, you are very likely a closet gay man. Does the mother of your 3 bio-kids know you are gay.?
A gay man's view is very likely different from a straight man's view of HDM and Eun A's romantic relationship, eg what will happen to them when they are >80 yo.? and what will happen to a BL or gay couple when they are >80 yo.?
In effect, you are criticizing the writer, Park Hae Young, as having self-censored this drama of hers like how the Chinese government has censored BL romance dramas.
....... In her last 2 dramas, My Mister and MLN, PHY has also focused her writing not on the romance but on "a slice of life" and/or the meaning of life aspect.
It's likely you do not dig her kind of love dramas. IOW, it's likely you only dig BL dramas.
How come you know the Chinese government censors BL romance bc I and most straight men here are not aware of it since we usually do not watch BL and GL dramas.?
The Bible has truths which say that people can be in "heaven or hell" in their life on earth and in their afterlife. On earth, it is based on whether they are being blessed or cursed by God for keeping or breaking His Law = Law-abiders vs Law-breakers/evildoers. There is no gray area between Law-keepers being blessed and Law-breakers/evildoers being cursed by God in this life on earth --> and between heaven and hell in the afterlife, if the Bible is true.
Like they say, "Good things happen to good people."
....... IRL, most modern Jews keep God's Law on a best effort basis --> RL statistics/truths or facts say Jews tend to live longer on earth than others.
Eg if IRL, PGS is like in hell on earth having been cursed by God, for hating HDM 1st bc he had secretly based his successful film debut on HDM's personal love-crush story in college (= not crediting HDM) = PGS's latest film, Sister Vengeance, has been a box-office flop with only 300,000 tickets sold = PGS got roasted and humiliated by hateful comments online.
....... In turn, if IRL, CEO Choi suffered huge losses in producing or funding PGS's flopped film. This curse is for Choi bullying Eun A in the office, for Choi's past evildoings of breaking his promise to cast Noh Kang Sik in an earlier film, for his tendency to steal others' film production by betraying them, etc.
....... You are very likely a male gay = Your imagining is based on a male gay who is unlike DM, and a woman like Eun A. A male gay has no romantic feelings for a straight woman like Eun A. Hence in yr view, it is absolutely possible for a straight woman to put her close male gay friend's face on her chest to comfort him.
So, apples and oranges.
AFAIK, it is rare for a straight woman to have a close male gay friend or even a close straight male friend but quite common for a straight woman to hv a few close straight woman friends.
Also, there is a huge difference between a straight male's face resting on the bosom of a straight woman INSIDE and OUTSIDE her cardigan or sweater.
-- thoughts of hate --> crimes of murder and bullying.
-- thoughts of sexual lust --> crimes of sexual molest, harassment, rape, incest, pedophilia, etc.
-- thoughts of greed --> crimes of stealing, robbery, burglary, scamming/lying or cheating, etc.
All humans have been born guilty or sinful of "thought crimes" in their mind and heart, even though they may not hv committed any crime in their life (= innocent of crimes).
The Bible says God will be sending "thought criminals" to eternal hell except those who believe in Jesus Christ and His Cross bc they hv been pardoned or forgiven by God.