KinnPorsche Episode 4

well hell, i guess now i know why everyone's…

well hell, i guess now i know why everyone's salivating over this BL - yeah Kinn & Porsche r hot... steamy... etc... but Porsche was drugged, Kinn always trying to "jump him" when he is inebriated & not 100% coherent, is a problem IMO - but i am the odd one out lol *******************************************************************************************************************************************************i love the scenes with the group of Tankhun's bodyguards more (of course including Porsche) they r so much fun. Tankhun is just the cherry on top. i love this dude - he is so much fun & when he doesn't like someone, he gets in their face - no farce or façade of fake niceties... good on him - a breath of fresh air. him hitting Vegas on the head with a tray, that was a chefs kiss. lol*******************************************************************************************************************************************************also what is Kim's deal?!? he's estranged from the family? then why he collecting info about who is around Kinn & now why he targeting Porsche ?!?? the fact he's gonna target a teen that is 10 plus yrs his junior, is annoying me to no end. i bleedin hope there no romance between them!*******************************************************************************************************************************************************Big hot for Kinn, but that unrequited love gonna make him betray Kinn (if he hasn't already done it).*******************************************************************************************************************************************************Vegas maybe a bad-guy, but he is HOT(!) idk why he's targeting Porsche (lol poor Porsche) but i guess Kinn had a past lover that betrayed him by colluding with Vegas or his part of the family. is that why there is such animosity between the 2? & do Kinn's trust issues stem from that?

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They had penis but sex ;)

that’s basically all that you need to know that this episode is a 10 ;)The whole episode was good but the end sealed the deal and my panties

To people saying it was rape. Stop. The media tricked y’all into believing all chemsex is automatically rape. The reason some countries have laws against chemsex being rape is because it in some cases is just that. This obviously isn’t new, girls getting drugged and then taken to a hotel and raped. This isn’t the case you can consent while high or drunk. You are free to do research outside of news stories and what actually qualifies as rape in chemsex. Porsche had sex while high and their were verbal and physical ques that led to him doing it.

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Technically that was rape

Porsche being drugged means that was rape. Even though the drugs weren't given to him by Kinn, even though it wasn't violent and Porsche kissed back, it's still rape. I reflexively want to apologize. I also want to keep watch, but how can I reconcile that with knowing that was rape. I don't want people - men and women and any gender - watching this and thinking that was ok - ok to happen in their lives, in a relationship. I know they were using it as a plot point to get them together, I know it was unlikely this would have happened so early in the plot had Porshe not been DRUGGED (admittedly be someone else, but it's still rape), but it's a story. **They could have done it after he sobered up. Kinn took care of him and showed him genuine courtesy, care, gentleness, and respect. That would have been a perfect reason/way for them to sleep together consensually. Am I a hypocrite for wanting to keep watching?If you still disagree with me after that (subjectively) beautiful alternative to this scene that still gets us to the same place, please watch this video first before commenting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ (it's great. You should watch it either way)

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Four Stars

Oh this was a great episode. The last 2 episodes really blended together since I watched them back to back but i liked it! A lot of progression for Kinn and Porsche, it's kinda shitty that they kissed and then Kinn just kinda didn't address it at all, but whatever they hooked up at the end so that's win. I like how Porsche handled seeing Kinn and that other kid together and I liked seeing their relationship develop more, I don't see this ending happily yet though. I totally wasn't expecting Porsche's attack, definitely had to look away because those kinds of scenes make me really uncomfortable. I was also glad to see more of Chay because he's a sweetheart, but now I'm worried for him because of Wik...he's giving supervillain and so is Vegas bc the fuck?? Wik has a weird corkboard of info on Porsche and Chay and other people and Vegas was like standing naked in the mirror with red lights like a DEMON lmao Kind of upsetting actaully because I REALLY liked Vegas's vibes before, I damn near wanted Porsche with him instead of Kinn really, but now...Very intrigued for the next episode!

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*Trigger warning* Beautiful cinematography

Another great episode. They have managed to transfer the novel to paper so well. Certain unneeded or outdated bits have been cut which is great and the s*x scene was full-on which is interesting to see in a Thai drama but it was very refreshing to see them pushing the boundaries and the cinematography was beautiful! Obviously, there is the issue of consent as Porsche had been drugged, although he did seem aware during the scene as he knew who he was with and had partially vomited the drugs, however, they were still in his system. The scene was not as extreme as the novel which was nice as I'm not sure that would have been cleared for TV at all even in the La Forte (uncut) version, I would say it was dubious consent at most, so please be aware before watching this episode and I believe Be On Cloud released a statement regarding it for this episode as well.

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Five Stars

EXTRAORDINARY and PHENOMENALLY GOOD! This episode was amazingly good due to the fact it really gives a glimpse at complexity of this two families, is incredible. As well, as the dynamic between every character is exceptional. The cinematography was taken to another level with this series and how specifically detailed they are with showing the watcher every significant thing that will continue shaping the series moving forth. I very much like this new adaptation from the novel as it's very tightly knitted with what occurs in the book but also the new changes make the series flow very realistically. As in the last scenes of episode 4 though were very heavy and you could visually see Kinn holding himself back til Porsche reiterates that he in fact remembers the kiss in the pier. So excited for the next episode, it has left us all the watchers at the edge of our seat. Lastly, amazing directing/ work that the team has put to make this series and will love to recognize the amazing acting skills that each actor does to fully immerse themselves in this character which makes the watching experience 100 times better.

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plot: god tier. lack of consent and things happening when one is intoxicated: no thank you.

I've been very conflicted about the kiss at the end of last episode already, but well, since both Kinn and Porsche were drunk (albeit to different levels, for sure), I didn't mind this much. But this time, Kinn is (almost ?) 100% sober while Porsche was just drugged, and I just can't enjoy scenes like those at the end of the episode, knowing that one of the two CAN'T give consent because he's intoxicated. I guess he was kind of seducing Kinn, but since Kinn is sober and they're not in an explicit relationship (or agreement for these kinds of things to happen), it just should not have happened. And it shouldn't have gone past the first kiss.

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