Nevertheless,

알고있지만, ‧ Drama ‧ 2021
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kenny
2 people found this review helpful
Oct 28, 2023
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 1
Overall 8.5
Story 8.0
Acting/Cast 10
Music 9.0
Rewatch Value 9.0

good drama, not your typical fairytale

looking at the ratings I might have to look into low rated kdramas exclusively now . welcome to the real world my sweet 11-year-olds. ML is not toxic at all, he never cheats on her, FL believes the words of every tom, dick & harry about the ML and keeps breaking up ( not that they are in an official realtionship). according to kdrama fandom the complete responsibilty of a realtionship lies on the ML and FL should be treated like a princess all the time anything other than that is highly 'toxic'
the chemistry is off the roof, kisses make you feel two adults are doing it, which is missing in general in kdramas with their fishy kisses. the story/plot is not really there, we'd have loved to see some backstory of both leads and side leads as well, the side characters are amazing, and the lesbian couple could get a show of their own. probably one of the very few dramas where I didn't skip anything.

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Thais
2 people found this review helpful
Sep 27, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 3.0
Story 2.0
Acting/Cast 8.0
Music 8.0
Rewatch Value 1.0
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Disappointed

What to say about this ending? They romanticized a toxic and abusive relationship. They romanticized that a woman is indeed a repair shop for men. I feel shame and pity for Na-bi because in that conversation where they return their relationship, it is evident how emotionally dependent she is on him. She knew what he was like, what he put her through, and yet she threw herself into his arms again. I am disappointed! Fortunately the secondary couples - Sol and Jiwan, Bit-Na and Kyuhyun, Min Young and Kyung Jun - saved that story.
They could have made Na-bi discover female empowerment. They could have made her realize with Jae-eon that no one deserves to go through an abusive relationship. What about Jae-eon saying he fell in love with her at first sight? This was never a crush because if he really had fallen in love with her, he would have had intentions of getting into a serious relationship with her from the start. And not just after losing her. What starts wrong will never work. Except in Nevertheless, history made people think everything that happened was normal.

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snoopy
1 people found this review helpful
Apr 13, 2024
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 4.0
Story 1.5
Acting/Cast 9.0
Music 4.0
Rewatch Value 1.0

Such a good cast for shitty ass show

Not even joking when I say this is the worst kdrama I have watch along with love alarm season 2...

The only good thing about this drama is the second couple and the cast, like the acting is good and they have such a great actors and actresses but the story is B O R I N G, the main character is so lame and the other one it's a jerk, there's nothing interesting about them, really, the second couple made the drama watchable, if you wanna know about them, just watch the clips and don't waste your time.

It's a shame that they gave this drama to such a great cast.

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Ashlesha
2 people found this review helpful
Jun 21, 2023
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 9.5
Story 10
Acting/Cast 10
Music 10
Rewatch Value 8.0

Painfully Realistic!!!

I know a lot of people didn't like the story due to toxic characters, but I will try to explain why I liked every damn thing about this series.

Let's begin with the CAST. I don't think anyone could have played the roles better than the way they were portrayed. From the very first look at Park Jae Eon, I knew he was going to break everyone's heart, yet he justified his role and made us fall for him to the point that every time he would hurt Na-Bi, I would feel similar pain. I would say that's an ace in acting. Na Bi also played her part well; being soft and confused in places but also being firm when she understood she couldn't handle the complicated relationship anymore. As for Do Hyuk, he was the cute and the most uncomplicated green flag in the show. He was the true Angel but unfortunately, the Devil will always be too tempting!!!

OSTs: They were good, too good to say the least. Every composition was kind of made to amplify the emotional depth of the scene. That made the show a lot more heart-touching.

STORY: It was realistic to the point where at times it left me with a dreadful feeling. The attraction between Jae Eon and Na Bi basically begins with sexual tension, which is more relatable to our generation. They then decide to keep it simple by not defining their relationship in any terms; another relatable situation. But what made me feel awfully familiar with the situation was Na Bi's conflict over why she's torturing herself knowing things will only get worse and Jae Eon pulling back when the things matter the most. These two situations I have experienced a lot in my dating life. Being afraid of getting hurt or not letting your feelings show because you are internally conflicted are the most common reasons why compatible people can't stay together. Some may say these are toxic traits but if you think, you can't really avoid it because these insecurities stem from the past and you can't change that. I would also like to focus on the fact that both, Jae Eon and Na Bi never saw a successful romantic relationship of their single parents. That will leave some mental scars that were bound to affect their own dating life. It's easy for us to categorise red and green flags but in the end, when you are in a relationship, things are not that simple.

But their sexual tension was off the chart; half the time, I had to stop the scene inbetween cause I was fucking breathless. Song Kang is a pure representation of sex (I know it's sexualizing comment but it's also true)!! If I would have been in Na Bi's place, I would have also given in just for the whole sexual chemistry, consequences be damned!!

Side Note: I loved how they represented art and butterflies in the series. I am an Architecture graduate, so art holds a high place in my life. In this series, art played a huge role in reciprocating feelings between Na Bi and Jae Eon, which were open to interpretation by viewers. Example - Jae Eon making Butterfly Suncatcher and Bracelet for Na Bi might not mean anything to others but for me it was admirable. A guy putting effort into making something himself is a huge plus point. It made my heart beat a little fast and my brain fuzzy. I also think creative guys are hotter than nerdy smart ones!!!

Lastly, I have rated Rewatch Value at 8 because I don't think my heart could bear to go through the emotional torture twice. But I might watch Nevertheless again, maybe after a few years when I am romantically at a good place...

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Dropped 5/10
kdramas_stan
6 people found this review helpful
Sep 4, 2021
5 of 10 episodes seen
Dropped 0
Overall 3.0
Story 5.0
Acting/Cast 6.0
Music 8.0
Rewatch Value 1.0
Dropping it halfway was probably the best decision of my drama life. I began watching this for two reasons: 1. Webtoon, 2. Song Kang. I wanted to see how the main lead will be portrayed and if I would change my mind because I liked SK. Thankfully no such thing happened but his character was too infuriating. A proper fuckboi through and through. While I had similar experience with the webtoon, the frustration, there was a lot of realism in it. Sadly the drama spectacularly failed to incorporate that towards the end. The only redeeming factor about this drama is probably the OST and some of the supporting characters. The leads are insufferable together. Each of the episodes is painfully long with lots of slow motion shots, I had to take weeks of break because even one week of gap didn’t feel enough. However, the cinematography is pretty cool. I really wish they had landed the ending and stuck to how it plays out. Sometimes your happy ending doesn’t have to involve a guy. Anyway, watch this only when you want to feel angry. This is definitely not worth your time.

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ophsx
4 people found this review helpful
Aug 22, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 10
Story 9.0
Acting/Cast 10
Music 10
Rewatch Value 9.0

To watch or not to watch? (yes, watch it rn!)

You can shit on me for this, but I'd really recommend everyone to give this show a try even after seeing all the negative reviews.
It is intimate, captivating, enduring and perfectly captures the reckless nature of young relationships. It's rocky, imperfect, yet passionate and sentimental.
You will fall in love with side couples, and be allured in with beautiful cinematography and soft light.
I do not give a flying fuck about people saying that the relationship between main couple is unhealthy. They are as imperfect as the people are and the actors did an IMMACULATE job on portraying every emotion in the most raw, natural and beautiful way.
This drama awakens the most intense emotions in people, and you can see that by the amount of the negative reviews lol. You will either love it to death or hate it to death. Nothing in between.
"Nevertheless" is not about the morally right relationships and impactful plot, it's about intense emotions that people can experience thanks to each other.
I can't stress enough how much this was a breath of a fresh air for me. For the last couple years I've gotten so sick and tired of all the sweet k-dramas that we were fed, and this title is exactly what i wanted to see.
Even though we were left with some unanswered questions, I am guessing that we can find the answers for these questions in the manhua. ( but imo they aren't that crucial to how they ended this story).
If you still aren't sure is you should give this a try, than let me tell you, the intimate scenes are TOP TIER. The are never over the top or distasteful, the chemistry between the actors is insane and I felt like I was given a glance into someone's private life.
Also there's a wlw subplot that has a happy ending :') I am very thankful to netflix and JTBC for the cute , unsexualized and realistic portrayal of the wlw couple. It was relatable, fresh and warm.

OVERALL :

I will totally re-watch this drama next year. It's great and I am very curious in how my point of view on this drama will change over the course of time.
9,8 / 10
Because I loved it dearly but i still don't know what the hell was with that lighter lol

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Mister Romantic
4 people found this review helpful
Aug 22, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 1
Overall 8.0
Story 8.0
Acting/Cast 8.0
Music 9.5
Rewatch Value 7.0

My opinion of this passionate, romantic drama

The Man:
Do you think this drama is unrealistic? I don’t think so. Haven’t you ever seen a man who only wants one thing from a woman? Haven’t you ever seen a man that doesn’t want any commitment in the process? They call them players in the social world or users in the not-so-nice world. Sometimes they just called them creeps. Some people will watch this drama and think he was honest with his feelings and worthy of praise. Sure he was. For all ten episodes, he never said a word or looked at her without a manipulative meaning behind it. There was no chemistry, just a man working on his mark—a butterfly for his collection. Guess what? Do you think he changed in the end? Releasing his butterflies was comical. Please make no mistake about it; in the end, he captured the butterfly.

The Woman:
This woman was oblivious to everything around her except him. Her artwork and communication skills suffered, and her entire personality changed the second she met him. I don’t think she realized that she had no chance to escape the butterfly net. She was naïve enough, or weak enough after a breakup, to fall for his cheesy approach. She wasn’t looking for a relationship in the beginning; she was looking for the same thing he was, uncommitted passion. She couldn’t even look at him without getting weak in the knees, and he was well aware of her feelings. Hanging with him after he made himself clear was her problem. She tried to turn herself into the victim, but in reality, she was just there for him to use, and that’s exactly what he did. I saw no redeeming value in her character other than the passion she had for him. Everything else, everybody else suffered in the wake.

Conclusion:
It gives credence to the saying, ‘nice guys finish last.’ She made a point of crushing her childhood friend so many times, but she would come back to use him to make herself feel better. He dodged the bullet. He should consider himself lucky. She was not the kind of woman that would coexist with a nice guy. Or at least she would only be there until the next bad boy cast his net.

Plot:
The plot was not too involved. Girl falls for the player, the girl thinks she can change the player, girl rejects the nice guy, and finally, the girl surrenders to the player. There is nothing unrealistic about this plot, I’ve seen it dozens of times in real life. It might have been better if they spent a little time building up the destroyed character of the player. It would have made her look better. In the end I just saw two users walking hand in hand.

My ratings:
I will probably rate this better than my words show because I like any dramas with romance and passion. This drama had both so I enjoyed it.

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Nushi
3 people found this review helpful
Aug 22, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 7.0
Story 5.5
Acting/Cast 7.5
Music 10
Rewatch Value 5.0
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From Lust to Love

This drama is not for everyone as a lot of people seek for love in dramas but this started with lust . It starts with sexual tension that slowly turns into obsession towards each other then wanting to be together.This does depict the situation where people really cannot show their true feelings to other people.

It's a slow burn with some artistic and visually rich both in atmospheric and appearance of all actors. All the songs provide a perfect ambience for all kinds of situation shown. "LOVE ME LIKE THAT" is my favorite.

I love the fact that Yu-Nabi made the fact clear "HEART WANTS WHAT IT WANTS". People cannot force their feelings knowing the fact that other person can make you happy but you wouldn't be able to feel that happiness no matter how much we try. Moreover, Park Jae-on does bring the best out of Yu-Nabi that is most important in any relationship.

What more stands out is supporting cast. Oh bit-na character is something that made me watch this drama more. After watching this I am happy that I didn't miss beautiful and confident female actresses that backed each other directly and at times indirectly.

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pats
3 people found this review helpful
Aug 28, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 9.5
Story 9.0
Acting/Cast 9.5
Music 10
Rewatch Value 10

Am I the only one who genuinely enjoyed this drama?

I don't understand all those bad reviews and comments honestly? I think this drama was really good. It felt real. You don't see this type of relationship often in kdramas. Song Kang was perfect as Park Jaeon, he portrayed a popular guy whose scared of commitment, and Han So Hee as Yu Nabi was also great at portraying a girl who can't resist him. They showed exactly how it usually is in real life. Their relationship could be seen as a toxic one but I don't think it was. I think it was just full of challenges and uncertainties. However, I think everyone who watched it and who is planning to watch it, should develop their own opinion on this. Ofc I have a lot to impute to Jaeon but also to Nabi, they both weren't perfect yet I feel like they were perfect for each other. I definetly recommend this drama to everyone it makes you feel all types of emotions and also supporting roles and their stories are really worth paying attention to.

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Marielle Martt
4 people found this review helpful
Aug 21, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 9.5
Story 9.0
Acting/Cast 10
Music 8.5
Rewatch Value 9.5
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Do people ever really change?

Having been with a creative male for 32 years, I relate to the female lead when she said that she would regret going with him, but she would anyway. These indviduals can be very addicting, and like a narcotic they exact a painful price. I have never known the joy with anyone as I knew with him, but I also never knew the depth of pain as well. He will always come up in my mind and I will recall the intense euphoria followed by exquisite pain. If you choose to love a Creative, be forewarned of the addiction potential.
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Jin Kim
1 people found this review helpful
Nov 23, 2021
10 of 10 episodes seen
Completed 0
Overall 7.0
Story 7.0
Acting/Cast 8.0
Music 7.0
Rewatch Value 5.0
It was good however the ending was bad. There was never really an explanation to why the male lead act the way he does so his redemption in the end felt very cheap and unearned. The story was too one sided solely focusing on the female lead when what drives most of the exciting part of the story was the male lead. The ending was fairytale like. However, given the circumstances that the male lead never really got to open himself up to the female lead, it is more realistic if they didn't get back together in the end. On the other hand, their happy ending would have felt good if the male lead just had a proper redemption.

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SongKang
1 people found this review helpful
Jul 12, 2022
10 of 10 episodes seen
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Overall 10
Story 9.5
Acting/Cast 10
Music 7.0
Rewatch Value 10

Its a new kind off drama

I´ve just rewatched the series for the third time, and I decided to read what other people thought about it. Because personally this is my favorit drama, I haven't read the webtoon but as if the series alone its very good.
It has everything in it, its more for teenagers because it a lot about toxic drama, and has some 18+ scenes.

I would be very disappointed if she didn't end with PJN but she did which made me love it even more.

Overall its af very good series and has everything in it<3
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