Shogun

SHOGUN 将軍 ‧ Drama ‧ 2024
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Aramintai
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Music 8.0
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Good, but the old TV series were better

Yea, that muted ending and furniture of a protagonist didn't do it for me. Never once was he shown to be actually needed by Toranaga and he wasn't even funny to be his pet clown, because they communicated too seldom here. And many important scenes about the protagonist were cut to make time for a parade of side characters.
And too many times it seemed that Toranaga was just plain lucky and adapting, not megaminding everything ten steps ahead. Yea, he was a ruthless liar who surrounded himself by people he could easily manipulate, but he wasn't omniscient to predict all random things. Like, what happened to his son, or his brother betraying him, or what happened to Mariko.
And speaking of Mariko, she was more of a protagonist in this show than ML or Toranaga combined. MVP, but disappointingly way too suicidal.
My favorite character in this drama is not her though, but Yabushige - the most human and entertaining one to watch. He was squirming on the frying pan for the whole series trying to get the most profit, but failed expectedly :).

Anyway, it's still a good drama. Production quality, especially the costumes were great. Too bad they didn't show the epic battle of Sekigahara, but it wasn't in the book, so ok. I'd give it an 8. But old TV series in terms of the plot and characters were still better, imho.

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taehyungsfatnose
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The new miniseries about war and samurai is a future classic.

Shôgun is the proof that it can actually be okay to make a remake of something that has already been praised and won great prizes, but then it always has to be done this amazingly well.

Shôgun s a mini-series set in 17th-century feudal Japan - And begins with the English pilot John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) suddenly running aground with his ship on the Japanese coast. There he quickly becomes a pawn in a power game between above all 2 feudal lords. Both with the ambition to lead the entire country until the young emperor comes of age and can take over.

Civil war, honor, power play and multitudes of samurai account for most of the action. But the cultural clashes for Blackthorne, who quickly tries to learn Japanese through the interpreter Lady Mariko (Anna Sawai), also take up a lot of space. During this time, Portugal had already found Japan and sent Catholic priests there who began to convert parts of the Japanese elite to Catholic Christianity, while Blackthrone now comes from a country at war with Portugal and claims to have lied about everything. It simply stirs the already infected pot.

Next year marks the 50th anniversary of the release of James Clavell's book Shôgun, which is partly inspired by real events. Already 5 years later, we got one of the best and most ambitious mini-series ever in television history, when Richard Chamberlain took on the lead role of Blackthorne and Orson Welles acted as narrator for the English-speaking viewers who did not understand Japanese. This time too, most of the dialogue takes place in Japanese, but now without an explanatory voice of course.

The old miniseries was then one of the first series of its kind to show both a naked woman and beheadings (not at the same time, fortunately) on television, which then shocked many viewers in 1980. More than 30 years before Game of Thrones turned that kind of of scenes to an almost absurd level (which gave that series the nickname Tits and Dragons). But it was, of course, the exciting and very complicated story itself, which made Shôgun win the finest television award at the Emmys, for the year's best miniseries.

So, why on earth should we go in and tinker with already acclaimed TV classics? Why not adapt something completely new or come up with a really awesome original story instead? These are questions that are most often muttered when different film studios seem to be trying to grab as much money as possible, by betting on already "given" successes. Sometimes, for example, when we get a really bad film adaptation, like The Last Airbender (2010), fans can still buy that a new and more ambitious attempt is made, like the live action series Avatar: The Last Airbender (which we can now watch on Netflix).

But this thing about remaking something that was already considered near perfect to the same format again... Why? The answer to that question will from now on always be: Shôgun. This is a miniseries that proves both why and how to update something already celebrated and let a new generation share the same story, while giving those of us who have seen the original an adaptation that can realize the story in an even more impressive way.

I read the book myself, which is really the only reason why I gave the already old mini-series a chance. When it comes to movie classics from the 70s or 80s, few frown when titles like Star Wars (1977), Apocalypse Now (1979) or The Godfather (1972) come up. Catching up on the old film classics is part of it. Considerably fewer spend 10 hours on a miniseries from 1980, however, no matter how acclaimed it happened to be at the time.

The fact that filmmaking has developed somewhat enormously in the last 40 years also means that the new adaptation of Shôgun has been able to learn from other war series and films. Just like Game of Thrones could do. And this new adaptation of Shôgun looks absolutely stunning. The photography is magical and so are the actors Hiroyuko Sanada (in the role of the feudal lord Toranaga), Anna Sawai and Cosmo Jarvis.

The book and the old miniseries have long since proven that the story itself is really exciting - And luckily the adaptation of the screenplay has stayed true to its source where needed, but also made minor updates to improve it elsewhere.

I had really high hopes, but was pleasantly surprised that they even managed to exceed them. The new Shôgun miniseries is a future classic, hopefully one of those few (like Band of Brothers) that everyone from now on will look to give a chance - No matter how many years have passed the premiere.

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nfabjoy
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Rewatch Value 1.5

Shogun was... alright

Shogun was a decent watch, though not one that left me eagerly anticipating a second season. The show’s portrayal of feudal Japan was interesting, with an obvious dedication to capturing the cultural and historical essence of the time, which I appreciated. The production value was high, and visually, it was quite immersive, with detailed sets and costumes that effectively transported viewers to a different era.

However, despite these strengths, the pacing often felt sluggish, and it sometimes struggled to maintain momentum. Some characters, while well-acted, lacked the depth needed to truly connect with viewers, making it harder to stay fully invested in their journeys. The story had moments of intrigue but didn’t consistently deliver, and there were points where I found myself waiting for it to pick up or offer something unexpected.

Overall, while Shogun had its strong points, it didn’t capture my interest in a way that would bring me back for another season. It’s worth a watch if you’re interested in historical dramas, but it ultimately left me wanting a bit more in terms of both narrative depth and engagement.

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the aggravated ayi
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Rewatch Value 7.0

Visually flashy, but obsessed with death

I don't remember much from the first American TV production of Shogun (1980), so I'm only able to re-watch scenes on YouTube for comparison. Interestingly one scene, Blackthorne explaining his understanding of the world map to Toranaga, is recreated almost word for word in the latest production by Disney+.

The remake gives a very different feel as there is unexpected weight given to the Japanese characters, especially that of struggling feudal Lord Toranaga. Much of the dialogue is in Japanese and even the episode titles are bilingual. This is perhaps an attempt to give the show an authentic Asian drama presentation, but there's something that's still very American in its tone. So much attention was paid to authentic visual detail, but I think the forest ended up getting lost in the trees.

I grew up watching North American TV, but spending the last 3 years watching Asian (C/K/J) productions has given me a new view of cinematic storytelling. There are stark differences but it took me a while to figure out exactly how to describe it in one word, but I thought of it: gratuitous. North American audiences are so obsessed with gore that they need to see the heads flying for the sake of seeing heads flying. Not to mention sex without love; there's no meaning attached. How does that flying head affect the person making or watching it happen? (Compare the execution of Ned Stark in Game of Thrones for an emotional beheading). The show thus became an endless parade of suicide & killing in the most gruesome manner, every single episode. Death is something each character is resigned to on daily basis & sex is just something you do like going to the gym; it's no wonder everyone is miserably hopeless. Was is truly the zeitgeist of Japanese feudal society?

The setting is stunning considering how every structure is a replica. Unfortunately I felt a lot of the beauty was lost in the very dark lighting of so many scenes, all in shades of grey & blue. This is made worse with a lower res tv. Why film in the dark, other than to emphasize the very dreary atmosphere with the constant threat of death under every stone. Mud, mist, & rain are prominent. Every scene is cold, wet, muddy & bloody.

Equally monotone are the personalities of all the characters. A very narrow range of emotion makes the show seem to present a stereotypical portrait of Japanese people as serious, stoic, humourless, and inscrutable. Any expression of joy is muted against the background of rain & darkness. I realized I couldn't sympathize with any of the characters. Where's the base human emotion that connects us all? One episode is titled "Eight Fold Fence", describing the wall behind which a person hides their inner selves for protection from a chaotic outer world. This just means everyone is so withdrawn that even viewers can't connect. How can one sypmathize & be drawn into any character's story in this way? The only thing left to be interested in was the political intrigue, which is simply a history lesson.

With the politics being a final note, this series ends on a cliff hanger, ready for a season 2, as this first season was basically a huge build up for a war that has yet to happen. Making the characters more human would be a big improvement for the next season. Otherwise I'd have to say this show was a not an elevation from a typical flashy American show. Rated 7.5 for the production.

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kemei19
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the best show I've seen in a long time

I have not read the book, so now that I am I might change my opinion on the series ... but I found this show just incredible. From casting, to acting, to story, to sets, to music. I want to watch it again after I finish the book. The one thing that really threw me off was the contacts that they put on Cosmo Jarvis as John Blackthorn. I noticed them as soon as the show started and I thought that maybe they looked that way because he had scurvy. Lol! Why not find a blue-eyed actor? Jarvis was very good as Blackthorn ... but those contacts were always obvious. I really wanted to binge the whole show at once, but I made myself watch two episodes a night to make it last. I love a story that doesn't flinch from the dark, uncomfortable, heartbreaking, the horrifying, and the mistakes made by characters followed by true consequences. Blackthorn's discovery of Japan and its people, next to their discovery of Blackthorn, was fascinating and I wonder what it really was like back then.

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Kaguya hime
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Pleasantly surprised at how authentic it is

Being an American production, I was worried about a repeat of Memoir of a geisha, where geishas speak English and are played by Chinese actresses. Not here. Everything from costumes to language was Sengoku era Japan. If anything, I really didn't think the Pacific Northwest (filming location) resembled Japan at all lol but given the circumstances, I understand why it's done.

Out of all the characters, I didn't care for Blackthorne. I do appreciate an outsider's perspective, but without him the story wouldn't have been drastically different. Really enjoyed the portrayal of Mariko (Hosokawa Gracia in history) and Toranaga (Tokugawa Ieyasu in history). Toranaga is EXACTLY what I imagine Ieyasu to look like and I'm not sure if we'll ever get another Ieyasu that close to my imagination (I regularly watch taiga - Japanese 50-episode long historical dramas).

People lament the lack of a "final" battle, but IMO it would have been very ordinary for that to happen (though pleasant to watch I'm sure). I remember watching GoT final battle and that was just a borefest, I was wondering when the killing would end. That battle did nothing for me emotionally. The plot deciding for no final battle was the correct decision IMO, a lot of the times battles are not won on the field but behind the scene, within political intrigues and people manipulation, and Shogun got all of that right.

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PHope
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Good Enough

Japanese Drama '' Shogun '' is a historical drama based on the same-titled novel.

The series has an optimal atmosphere, with costumes and settings being excellent! The lighting and the camera filters also aided in creating the right mood.

In addition, the drama had killer performances by everyone in the cast but, especially, the leads and the female lead more precisely. She was a storm indeed!

As for the story, it was a political thriller with nice twists and an interesting ending.

So, overall, eight out of ten.
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