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Aigooo...just stop it. This is not what the thread is for...Now who's derailing the topic. Not cool!
bannie wrote: You are right.
But not scary enough to stop US from invading Iraq =p


Yes.....I guess we don't scare as easily.......or we just are insane. I'm gonna go with a mixture of both.
LisNoir wrote: Aigooo...just stop it. This is not what the thread is for...Now who's derailing the topic. Not cool!


hahaha Topic ended.

So, how bout them *insert favorite sports team here*?
NinaJade82 wrote: You all calling people ignorant because they say people of Taiwan are Chinese need to go and do a little bit of research on Chinese history to not look like i


When you're born into a country you are part of that identity. People born in China are Chinese. People born in Taiwan are Taiwanese. People can intermingle with each other, but you're still part of the identity of the country you were born into. Nobody can escape that, even if you were to get citizenship elsewhere... It's not like an American person would all of a sudden start to turn into a Chinese person among attaining citizenship. Also just, because one speaks Mandarin does not make them Chinese.... If that were the case I'd be Japanese right now xD
LisNoir wrote: Aigooo...just stop it. This is not what the thread is for...Now who's derailing the topic. Not cool!



Lol. agreed. Apologies >.<

For some reason, quite the popular thread this has become.
Pity I cant edit, I would have liked to edit out my first comment.
Seemed to have caused unnecessary stir =(
Ok, now that everyone is behaving...I'm really leaving...lol *goes back to K2H*
Sleepninja wrote: Ahh Yes, I am guilty of doing that sometimes as well. I will forget and think of it with Western mind. Then I mentally kick myself and hope they aren't offended. But usually I use the full name.


Nice of you to care.
I think there just isnt enough Asian people around with an Asian name, so its not really the fault of the people for not picking up on it.
Oh well
Raventhedark wrote: When you're born into a country you are part of that identity. People born in China are Chinese. People born in Taiwan are Taiwanese. People can intermingle with each other, but you're still part of the identity of the country you were born into. Nobody can escape that, even if you were to get citizenship elsewhere... It's not like an American person would all of a sudden start to turn into a Chinese person among attaining citizenship. Also just, because one speaks Mandarin does not make them Chinese.... If that were the case I'd be Japanese right now xD



Right but when you have a Chinese boss telling you he is Chinese and was born in Taiwan, then you understand that they roots matter more than any political ideas.... for example, it would take years, and years of intermingeling for them to not be Chinese anymore and only Taiwanese with some far Chinese heritage, as it is now, like I said... when my boss who was born in Taiwan says he is Chinese I dont see why someone saying that would be ignorant, as long as they know the difference... Communist China, Democratic China. Its not like they stripped themselves of being from one race or heritage.... come on.

One of the biggest reasons why United States does not have much sense in what culture and traditions are, is not becuase we (as a whole) are choosing to be arrogant and ignorant of other cultures. US is formed of many different cultures, as it is right now there are almost every other culture living in the US, and we do have holidays for most cultures, and we do pay respect to them. We have little communities that have do their own thing... why is it that Americans (formed by, Caucacians, Africans, Hispanics which includes all Spanish speaking countries, even Spain; Chinese, Japanese, Koreans; Latin people, form Italy, Fance, Brazil, Portugal... you get the drift) dont care about other cultures? I wont answer you that one... just think about that!!!
NinaJade82 wrote: Right but when you have a Chinese boss telling you he is Chinese and was born in Taiwan, then you understand that they roots matter more than any political ideas.... for example, it would take years, and years of intermingeling for them to not be Chinese anymore and only Taiwanese with some far Chinese heritage, as it is now, like I said... when my boss who was born in Taiwan says he is Chinese I dont see why someone saying that would be ignorant, as long as they know the difference... Communist China, Democratic China. Its not like they stripped themselves of being from one race or heritage.... come on.
I never said that speaking Madarin makes you Chinese... hahaha, you obvisouly dont read comments right. I said in Taiwan you speak Madarin mainly not Taiwanese.
To say that there is such a language as Chinese, its like saying Americans speak American. That was my point.

One of the biggest reasons why United States does not have much sense in what culture and traditions are, is not becuase we (as a whole) are choosing to be arrogant and ignorant of other cultures. US is formed of many different cultures, as it is right now there are almost every other culture living in the US, and we do have holidays for most cultures, and we do pay respect to them. We have little communities that have do their own thing... why is it that Americans (formed by, Caucacians, Africans, Hispanics which includes all Spanish speaking countries, even Spain; Chinese, Japanese, Koreans; Latin people, form Italy, Fance, Brazil, Portugal... you get the drift) dont care about other cultures? I wont answer you that one... just think about that!!!


I think that is key.
NinaJade82 wrote: Right but when you have a Chinese boss telling you he is Chinese and was born in Taiwan, then you understand that they roots matter more than any political ideas.... for example, it would take years, and years of intermingeling for them to not be Chinese anymore and only Taiwanese with some far Chinese heritage, as it is now, like I said... when my boss who was born in Taiwan says he is Chinese I dont see why someone saying that would be ignorant, as long as they know the difference... Communist China, Democratic China. Its not like they stripped themselves of being from one race or heritage.... come on.
I never said that speaking Madarin makes you Chinese... hahaha, you obvisouly dont read comments right. I said in Taiwan you speak Madarin mainly not Taiwanese.
To say that there is such a language as Chinese, its like saying Americans speak American. That was my point.

One of the biggest reasons why United States does not have much sense in what culture and traditions are, is not becuase we (as a whole) are choosing to be arrogant and ignorant of other cultures. US is formed of many different cultures, as it is right now there are almost every other culture living in the US, and we do have holidays for most cultures, and we do pay respect to them. We have little communities that have do their own thing... why is it that Americans (formed by, Caucacians, Africans, Hispanics which includes all Spanish speaking countries, even Spain; Chinese, Japanese, Koreans; Latin people, form Italy, Fance, Brazil, Portugal... you get the drift) dont care about other cultures? I wont answer you that one... just think about that!!!


Makes me sad. No Chinese New Year in USA =(
bannie wrote: Makes me sad. No Chinese New Year in USA =(



haha I guess it is because it might be too confusing to have more than one New Year's celebration. Thailand just recently celebrated their new year I believe. I think it's called songkran.

To make this relevant..................ummmm Lung are cool! ( I ♥ dragons)
well its been interesting debating Chinese culture, but must go do my job now. My Chinese, I mean Taiwanese boss is giving me the eye... funny he lived in Peru most of his childhood, I thought he was Japanese before he almost strangled me and told me he was Chinese born in Taiwan. lol
NinaJade82 wrote: Right but when you have a Chinese boss telling you he is Chinese and was born in Taiwan, then you understand that they roots matter more than any political ideas.... for example, it would take years, and years of intermingeling for them to not be Chinese anymore and only Taiwanese with some far Chinese heritage, as it is now, like I said... when my boss who was born in Taiwan says he is Chinese I dont see why someone saying that would be ignorant, as long as they know the difference... Communist China, Democratic China. Its not like they stripped themselves of being from one race or heritage.... come on.

One of the biggest reasons why United States does not have much sense in what culture and traditions are, is not becuase we (as a whole) are choosing to be arrogant and ignorant of other cultures. US is formed of many different cultures, as it is right now there are almost every other culture living in the US, and we do have holidays for most cultures, and we do pay respect to them. We have little communities that have do their own thing... why is it that Americans (formed by, Caucacians, Africans, Hispanics which includes all Spanish speaking countries, even Spain; Chinese, Japanese, Koreans; Latin people, form Italy, Fance, Brazil, Portugal... you get the drift) dont care about other cultures? I wont answer you that one... just think about that!!!


It doesn't matter what he considers himself. If he was born in Taiwan he's Taiwanese. If you're born in America you're considered American. If you're born in Germany you're German... For example I was born in America. So I'm considered American. However I don't consider myself personally to be American. But that doesn't change the fact that I was born in America... It's the same with your boss. Show him proper respect, and everything is good. (Whatever he wishes to be considered as) I'm just saying the technicality of it all is that he is considered Taiwanese.

Taiwan is as Chinese as Tibet is... The culture may still be relatively the same, but the fact of the matter is Taiwan is not part of China.

China = Country
America = Country
Taiwan = Country (Even if most countries don't want to recognize Taiwan as a country due to pressures from China. It is it's own country!)

Sure there's obvious controversies, and even the Wikipedia files on Taiwan are biased, but to me and countless others, Taiwan is separate from China!
Sleepninja wrote: haha I guess it is because it might be too confusing to have more than one New Year's celebration. Thailand just recently celebrated their new year I believe. I think it's called songkran.

To make this relevant..................ummmm Lung are cool! ( I ♥ dragons)


Lung?
The left or the right?

:p