[Discussion] Nice guy

_Rosie

Nov 18, 2012 07:20 am

mdemOiselleC wrote: am still n ep.18 after reading all ur comments,like i don't have a courage to watch it for now,coz i know in just 2 hrs am going to feel or ask same question as u guys...anyways thanks to all

you read the comments & spoilers here & haven't finished it yet?? I never read any comments until I have finished the drama lol

nekoblah

Nov 18, 2012 08:58 am

RainFlower wrote: I agree the ending of IM cannot be compared to Big that was just non-existent lol

LOL great choice of word

bettyboo

Nov 18, 2012 12:56 pm

I notice that many of the viewers are not satisfied with the ending. Maybe they didn't understand it, but I find it was a great end for that drama. Maru's monologue in the end explains it. What he and Eun Gi really wanted happened: THEY FOUND HAPPINESS! It doesn't matter if the way of living is not the same, you just need to be near to the person you love. And in the end I felt that he remembered, but they choose to let things happen as if it were the first time. For me the end was the main reason that I gave a 10!!!

delta777

Nov 18, 2012 01:52 pm

bettyboo wrote: I notice that many of the viewers are not satisfied with the ending. Maybe they didn't understand it, but I find it was a great end for that drama. Maru's monologue in the end explains it. What he and Eun Gi really wanted happened: THEY FOUND HAPPINESS!
It doesn't matter if the way of living is not the same, you just need to be near to the person you love. And in the end I felt that he remembered, but they choose to let things happen as if it were the first time. For me the end was the main reason that I gave a 10!!!

Agree...but the main reason I gave IMan a 9 was Song Joong-ki's performance.

About the comparison 2 "Big" from other posters here....Maybe their were discrepancies in the IMan storyline, but 2 compare it 2 "Big"...lol :) Susie was practically the only bright spot (rated it a 4).

Anyway... "To each their own". :)

cityhunter VIP

Nov 18, 2012 01:52 pm

all i expected was the synopsis. we were told to expect a revenge plot and that is not at all what we got. we got a love triangle, and, for me at least, not a very good one. i say they Bigged it (the drama as a whole, not just the end) b/c IMO like Big they had a good thing going and then they proceeded to screw it up, in this case by white washing the characters and moving away from what they said was the whole point of the show.

Christina

Nov 19, 2012 06:16 am

I just finished the drama and gave it 7. I was deciding between a 6 and a 7. The beginning episodes had potential but near the middle it got boring with the whole running around in circles with the amnesia storyline. Throughout episode 20, I was thinking that it could have used a one episode extension or cut out some of the flashbacks. The score and ost solidified it getting a 7 and not a 6.

amrita828

Dec 5, 2012 11:25 am

Rourou and Cityhunter: I. Love. You.

Rou, I agree on every single word, even the commas. I am contemplating to change my 5 into a 4 too.
CH, did you watch it till the end... in the end? (LOL, forgive the horrible pun). I confess: I used some recaps here and there to finish this drama. I couldn't bring myself to watch the whole thing, but I was mightly curious as to how a mess can end in an even bigger mess.

Two words about the ending. I've read many say that those who didn't like the ending didn't understand it. In my opinion, whatever the interpretation of if (and why, pray tell, should an ending be interpreted?), it stays a badly done one. Let's see the 2 possibilities:

1. Maru did lose his memory and regains it in the last 5 seconds. Really? How many freaking times are we recurring to amnesia here? And if he actually had amnesia - for 7 years, no less!! - how on earth did he finish his studies and become a doctor? And did Eun Gi go to visit him every day and repeat the same scene? Or did she wait 7 years to finally step into that doctor cabinet?

2. Maru did not suffer from amnesia. The ending is a big, poetic (humph) metaphor of their starting anew.
Fine, but what happened in those 7 years? Did both Maru and Eun Gi speak in voiceover, i.e. in their minds, all this time? Did Maru keep her in the dark for 7 years while he remembered everything? Does this even make an ounce of sense?

This drama is built upon an irritating pattern: leave out all the important events. Maru goes to prison and comes out as beautiful as a flower. All his scars are left to imagination. He is and remains a good guy. No development. He gets his happy ending in the end, but we don't see it happen. Every event which could have explained his fictional persona are left out.

Eun Gi is a psycho, from beginning to end. She almost kills Maru in the tunnel, but she never, not even once, reflects upon her deeds. It's always somebody else's fault. And the worst is, we have to love her. And everybody's bend to protect her, for reasons unknown. What happened to her after the first accident, don't know. What happened to her after Maru's stabbing, don't know. Oh yes, she runs a flower shop. What happened to that blasted company the whole plot was built upon, don't know.

Jae Hee is possibly the only character with, I wouldn't go as far as to say three dimentions, but let's grant her two - more than the others, anyway. She has an arc, and she's got some of the only genuine lines in the whole drama, a realization of her faults and where these faults have brought her: to unhappiness.
Her son? Poor, poor kid. From a loving mother who was evil in every other aspect, to an aunt who trated him like dirt but, hey, she's in love with a man, doesn't this alone make her into an angel?

Bless Choco and the beanpole. Couldn't they make a rom-com about them? I'd have watched that one.

cityhunter VIP

Dec 5, 2012 01:20 pm

i am still at ep 17, this is about the point where i realized that even in a "it's so bad i have to see just how bad they can make it" sense it still could not be entertaining. there was simply no more potential for me. i'm fairly certain i'm just going to drop it. Eun Gi aside there were some great performacnes of overall bad material but that wasnt enought to make me want to watch, and i watched all of playful kiss b/c the male lead is hot.

Day-Z

Dec 17, 2012 12:42 am

I thought this drama was incredible. Just finished it and it blew my mind. But I was so so so disappointed at the ending. It made me angry! I didn't cry because the ending was sad, I cried because I was angry at how they had ended that fantastic melodrama! Ahh, I'm glad others agree that the ending was bizarre, I think I woke my house shouting at the computer.

sunflower63

Dec 19, 2012 08:32 am

I read all of this thread whilst I was watching the drama and it was fun to see all the different viewpoints. I personally thought this was a awesome drama mostly for SJK's acting which was brilliant as he managed to draw me, the viewer, into a turmoil of different emotions that sometimes were very confused as what would happen in real life. I agree that the plot was twisted in many instances as I never knew what to expect from one minute to the other because of its surprising developments. I think the main point of the writers here was to make us feel all the different emotions of hate,love, revenge, jelousy etc. etc. and they succeeded in this thanks to the very good actors. As far as the ending goes, I was confused too and I found a few parts not very believable but this didn't take away the beauty of the story...for me it was a full 9 and it would have been a 10 if it wasn't for the few flaws in the plot here and there.

sorujiar

Dec 19, 2012 09:53 am

wrote: 1. Maru did lose his memory and regains it in the last 5 seconds. Really? How many freaking times are we recurring to amnesia here? And if he actually had amnesia - for 7 years, no less!! - how on earth did he finish his studies and become a doctor? And did Eun Gi go to visit him every day and repeat the same scene? Or did she wait 7 years to finally step into that doctor cabinet?

Prosopagnosia isn't amnesia, it's an inability to recognize faces. At least in the one I watched that is what they said he had (he can't recognize people). I agree the drama fell back way too much on amnesia and prosopagnosia, given they are both such rare medical conditions that some doctors believe prosopagnosia doesn't even exist.

That being said, if you take it in that - it's not that he can't remember her. It's that he can't recognize her. To me that is a way you can interpret it as either he is happy with her from that last 10 seconds, or he is going to live a suffering life never being able to see the girl he loves again, even though she's right there. The tone seemed to be a happy one, but I think that is just reflecting on the character, Maru wasn't greedy and he didn't ask for more than he was given, so he would be happy with at least being able to be with her in spirit.

Note: This may be down to interpretations in subbing.

About the drama itself, oh my god just so sad. I couldn't stop watching it because of how sad it was but it's definitely the most I've cried out of any drama in the final episodes.

I think the drama failed a bit midway with the sadness, it got formulaic. It was in a setting where I was pretty much expecting the ending of the episode each time, but it started twisting more around ep. 16~ and got much better.

amrita828

Dec 19, 2012 11:42 am

sorujiar wrote: Prosopagnosia isn't amnesia, it's an inability to recognize faces. At least in the one I watched that is what they said he had (he can't recognize people). I agree the drama fell back way too much on amnesia and prosopagnosia, given they are both such rare medical conditions that some doctors believe prosopagnosia doesn't even exist.

That being said, if you take it in that - it's not that he can't remember her. It's that he can't recognize her. To me that is a way you can interpret it as either he is happy with her from that last 10 seconds, or he is going to live a suffering life never being able to see the girl he loves again, even though she's right there. The tone seemed to be a happy one, but I think that is just reflecting on the character, Maru wasn't greedy and he didn't ask for more than he was given, so he would be happy with at least being able to be with her in spirit.

Note: This may be down to interpretations in subbing.

About the drama itself, oh my god just so sad. I couldn't stop watching it because of how sad it was but it's definitely the most I've cried out of any drama in the final episodes.

I think the drama failed a bit midway with the sadness, it got formulaic. It was in a setting where I was pretty much expecting the ending of the episode each time, but it started twisting more around ep. 16~ and got much better.

To be honest, my bad opinion of this drama took its form very early on, around episode 6 or 7. I should have dropped it and leave it be, because once I started truly disliking it there was nothing which could redeem it in my mind. I watched it till the end with a lot of fast forwarding and recaps reading, with the sole purpose of finding out how it would end. This is why I didn't know prosopagnosia was even mentioned, and I apologize for the mistake. Not that it would have changed my bad opinion: one doesn't suffer from such a rare condition and is cured miraculously in 5 minutes. But this is useless semantics.

Possibly because I have seen a few melodramas, I find this one was NOT well planned at all. Even forgetting the scientific absurdities - which are to be found in every melodrama - it was badly characterized and written. Since the very first minute of watching I was constantly reminded of Bad Guy (and I will be as bold as to add the writer did too). Bad Guy however, as much of a melo as it is, has a very consistent plot, is brilliantly acted and makes perfect sense in its fictional world. It was not generally loved because of the ending, which wasn't a fan service at all.
I wonder how this drama would have been rated, had Maru actually died from that stabbing or the surgery.

In short: my opinion of the ending is heavily influenced by the whole drama. I have learned my lesson, though, and I promise I'll stay well away from any korean melo for at least a decade. :P

Aphrodity

Dec 19, 2012 04:02 pm

Except SJK's acting skills, should I expect a lot from this drama?

cityhunter VIP

Dec 19, 2012 05:53 pm

objectively the story was a mess. the chick that plays Jae Hee is awesome too though and there were many people who enjoyed this. i enjoyed the 1st 5 or so episodes myself. it's one of those you'll just have to take the plunge and find out what side of the fence you end up on!