Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s Story and Romance

 HeadInTheClouds:

Thanks, ladies. And I'm with you on this, liddi. We want a reshot of this scene. And the bedroom scene. And we want the scene where he saved her from the whirlpool. 

THIS. Exactly. How could they have robbed us of Ch43? Oh, and I demand  an actual lips on forehead kiss, not some flakey snowflake for Ch35 (Vol 3 Ch3)!

 HeadInTheClouds:

And speaking of the bedroom scene. If you ever wanted that scene to end differently, I present....

If we had this scene, the drama would have ended with a happily ever after in Ep25, and I wouldn't have minded one bit!

 HeadInTheClouds:

(I didn't go searching for this, I swear)

Oh I believe you...........

 blabla100:

Oh really?  I had the impression he was crying. Hm, furious is even worse than crying, I could have understand his crying, altough that's not something novel's XL would do, but furious over XY and Jing sounds so one-sided, especially because în the novel he kept supporting their relationship. 

I think I see where your confusion about him crying came from. The single, silent tear mentioned in the script refers to the tear Xiao Yao shed, that he transformed into a pearl. I don't have any problems with grief and fury. Just because he was doing everything to put a stop to her expectations from him, and transferring it to Jing, in no way does that mean he was an emotionless saint who would not be hurt knowing that the woman he loves was being physically intimate with another man. The fact that it hurt him immeasurably, but he resolutely continued down that path, is a reflection of how greater, how much more selfless a man he was than anyone else who claimed to love her.

 windiaaa041293:

@liddi,I think her mother knows.

What do you think A Heng knows? That Xiao Yao loves someone else? 

 liddi:

What do you think A Heng knows? That Xiao Yao loves someone else? 

Ah Heng could sense XY didn’t love Jing I think. XY’s words are the proof for that already. Generally when a girl brings her boyfriend to introduce to her family. It is typically says that “we love each other a lot or he loves me much first”. Kindness is not the primary reason for a marriage relationship 

@liddi

"I think I see where your confusion about him crying came from. The single, silent tear mentioned in the script refers to the tear Xiao Yao shed, that he transformed into a pearl."

Exactly, that's it.  Idk, no matter how I look at that scene, I still don't like it and IMO it is one of the worse addition from S2.

 blabla100:

The thing is I kinda understand XY too, XL's choice is irreversible, it's not something like choose power over love, or money over love, I mean death is death, no future, no plans, no nothing. Giving this, I don't see XY having an option at all, to be honest. In her words, that's worse than death. Living a long life with no one to keep her company, because the one she committed to is already dead

I absolutely agree with you. Xiao Yao's fear was legitimate. It's one thing to commit to someone then they die. It's another to commit yourself to someone knowing that they will die. Even someone without Xiao Yao's emotional/psychological baggage would find the second one difficult. My frustration with Xiao Yao is more about her behaviour/actions (or rather her lack of) instead of her choices about pursuing a relationship with Xiang Liu.

 blabla100:

I don't actually blame anyone, that was just how fate was for them, wrong timing,

 blabla100:

They both had their hands tied to be honest.

Yes. Fate had dealt them a cruel hand. There was no happy ending to be had. Whatever choices they made would require compromising on certain things that they hold dear.

 blabla100:

IMO XY was more willing to take the risk and commit than XL ever was. The only reason why she didn't go along îs because XL didn't allow it.

I can see how you reached this conclusion. I think some other ladies here argued that Xiang Liu gave her chances that she failed to take. My take is that they were just not in sync with each other; when one stepped into the relationship, the other one stepped away and vice versa. Until at some point, the decision became firm and unchangeable.

 blabla100:

Did his plan succeed? I don't belive so. He thought maybe that by killing the bugs her love for him will die too, but just as he was surprised to see the memories she kept în the mirror of him, he miscalculated the extent of her feelings too.

Xiang Liu probably underestimated the depth of Xiao Yao's feelings for him. Xiao Yao probably underestimated her feelings for him. He did his best to minimize her pain, and inadvertently create another one. What was that saying? You can plan, but only god decides. I think the Asian equivalent is something like "man's calculation can't beat heaven's calculation". 

There's no reprieve for these two.

 H19279:

such a dynamic afternoon/evening discussion (it’s afternoon here in NL) this It is Sinterklaas weekend in NL (for kids mainly with gift given- similar to Christmas in some other countries) therefore i did not have much time working on my laptop. @windiaaa041293, hope to give you some supplement info on Monday. Have good time to all

Happy Holiday!  I hadn't heard of Sinterklaas before -- it sounds like lots of fun for the kids.

 blabla100:

Maybe knowing how XY was when she was little and giving that she is her mom's daughter, jing's profile doesn't really fit to what she thought XY would want as a love partner. Too weak, too obedient. I belive that if it was XL who was sitting next to her în front of her mom, AH Heng wouldn't have had this conflicted emotion, because XL would never sit behind XY, but next to her and he wouldn't have kept his head low with no intention of getting up, allowing others to speak on his behalf. 

That is a very real possibility - thank you for pointing that out. His passiveness might also have been a cause of concern, especially during turbulent times. Xiang Liu would not have been so ingratiating - respectful certainly but never meek.