Help me out here. She does call out Jing and say she misses him. So what does that mean. How should we interpret that sentence. I am a bit confused and torn. That part done of it clearly points to XL but that sentence I was unsure. I can believe the second part relates to XL.MengXiang:
XY's situation when she saw the hibiscus flowers was called Hypoactive delirium [1]which resulted from injury and high fever. Her symptons included seeing things that others did not see, rambling and non-sense speech. When she woke up, she didn't ask about Jing at all.
The hibiscus plant (flower and leaves) was memorized with multi-layers in her mind. Literally, on the outer layer of the memory is the cleaning hair between Jing and XY. Therefore, when she saw it, she could recall to such memory. However, deep down inside the original memory of hibiscus was linked to FFB who she loved and kept it secretly. So the hibiscus is a kind of merging memory. Her mind was strong and her secret was hidden/masked under the name "Jing". So she spoke out "Jing" as the subject but her subconscious action linked to the deeper memory - FFB/XLand stronger emotion: the scare of FFB/XL leaving her, the comfort when hearing the heart beat. This mental activity process is similar to her emotional venting while she is conscious. For example: she loved XL. But she could not afford to love him. What he did to her or what she wanted to do with him she applied/vented on Jing.
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Svetlanchik89:
Yes, thank you =) for some reason I can't respond to comments, what should I do about it?
luv2bafangurl:
Do you access MDL from mobile device? Some feature in MDL are not supported by mobile device. I have the same problem, that‘s why I also need to copy paste the comments I want to reply to. In addition we can‘t quote long post as well.
Replying to short post should be possible though by pressing the ‚Quote‘ button.
I don't know about the phone app version...
But to "Quote" someone's post, if the "Quote" button doesn't work, then highlight the text you want to quote in your response. A "Quote" button should appear on the top left hand corner of what you highlighted. If it doesn't, then right click on the highlighted area, and it will appear. Click on that new "Quote" button.
MDL won't let you Quote 'long' posts with the button on the bottom right of the post. But it counts ALL the text, including other people's quotes. So, sometimes if you highlight just what one person wrote, it will quote all of that.
Kokuto:
Ha! Beloved Ru Shou kicking Feng Long's butt. WHY must he fight for CX and stand against Xiang Liu?? sob
who do you mean? Ru Shou or Feng Long?
Everyone could see that Shen Nong army would eventually lose. which side would practical people choose?
FL was Xiao Zhurong's son. His father was governor of Middle Plains, under Xuan Yuan ruler.
Ru Shou first fought for Gaoxin/Haoling. Later Gaoxin was merged with Xuan Yuan by political marriage. So Ru Shou was also under CX.
It is always easier and smarter to choose the winning side if you are free to choose. However, both FL and RS had connection with CX before and that was the winning side. No reason to choose Shen Nong army side
Taspia:
I wonder how TH was Thinking about XY feeling for XL, because her feeling are expressed with a very sharp technique, which is not easy to understand, which requires deep thinking, still what she means is not exactly understood,I think what XY feels for XL only TH knows the true feeling, and we only guess what is ours to do ..
I'm always asking myself that What EXACTLY XY wanted from Herself and XL??????????
XY wanted a simple life with a long term companionship. That's all.
XL was opposite of her family and CX. XL stood behind Shen-Nong army and He would stick with shen-nong army till their end. Rationally XY knew she could not expect XL as her companion partner. Subconsciously, she could not help herself from falling into him. Later, after the wedding robery, XY awared that they didn't have fate together.
Thank you so much for the added insight. Perhaps there is far more similarity between different cultures than meets the eye after all. And you are right. Whichever the interpretation, there is such a sense of poignancy when we take it within the context of the novel - how representative it is of Xiang Liu, who have gone far away, and will never return.liddi:
I believe people are more connected than not. We're all human and all spring from ancient agrarian cultures tied to the same cycle of seasons and nature. Of course, there are differences and subtleties that make each culture unique. But the sense of melancholy for both the Irish Wild Geese and XL, symbolized by migrating geese, feels the same.
H19279:
who do you mean? Ru Shou or Feng Long?
Everyone could see that Shen Nong army would eventually lose. which side would practical people choose?
FL was Xiao Zhurong's son. His father was governor of Middle Plains, under Xuan Yuan ruler.
Ru Shou first fought for Gaoxin/Haoling. Later Gaoxin was merged with Xuan Yuan by political marriage. So Ru Shou was also under CX.
It is always easier and smarter to choose the winning side if you are free to choose. However, both FL and RS had connection with CX before and that was the winning side. No reason to choose Shen Nong army side
Beloved Ru Shuo, of course!
Practical people, like Haolin Emperor, and perhaps even Ru Shuo implementing his orders, have been backing the Resistance Army for centuries. They knew Xiyan wasn't their friend. When they are back stabbed by CX , why would they throw away an effective ally?
Ru Shuo didn't choose to fight for a 'winning side.' He followed the orders of his king ... who sadly chose to surrender to back stabber CX.
Yes. I'm unreasonable about CX starting the war with Haolin. And unreasonable about my love for Ru Shuo. Very very very conflicted. I would love an AU where Haolin allied with Gong Gong and rebel Plains clans, against CX. Then my favorite characters could fight with each other, not against each other.
Yes. I'm unreasonable about CX starting the war with Haolin. And unreasonable about my love for Ru Shuo. Very very very conflicted. I would love an AU where Haolin allied with Gong Gong and rebel Plains clans, against CX. Then my favorite characters could fight with each other, not against each other.
Shao Hao had no son so no crown prince. In the end he had to choose someone to take monarch title. And because of his debt to Qing Yang, Chang yi, Ah Heng, he had already chosen CX as his successor. He trained him to be a ruler. And he also trained RS to be a good general and assistant. And Shao Hao in LYF was not as ambition as he was in Once Promised. It seemed that he was tired of being a lonely king. One of his reason to remain as king is to allow his daughters to do whatever they wanted. However, XY was not his daughter anymore (he could not use his power to protect/cover her anymore) and Ah Nian just wanted to marry CX.
your wish that RS fought against CX could only become reality when Gaoxin wanted to be independent and the Grand Emperor wanted to keep his thrown and the territorial integrity
Maybe that is the purpose of dressing him with pink or purple, focusing on the trait of "prodigal" man. However, in my opinion, his characteristic remain unchanged (e.g.,cold, distant).
I agree. Military Xiang Liu was very much him; even before becoming involved with the Resistance Army, he wasn't exactly the gregarious, talkative, teasing type like FFB. Maybe if he had never become Shen Nong's military advisor and spent more years in the mortal realm free he may have reached a bit of a middle ground between Xiang Liu and his FFB's persona.
And you just triggered more pain. I think for me, it is the pervading sense of injustice of it all on his behalf... why it had to end this way for him, when he had prepared the best possible arrangement for everyone else.
I seem to be causing you a fair bit of pain lately, liddi :-). Misery loves company you know?
I don't know if this helps, but I don't think Xiang Liu sees it as an injustice. In my opinion, Xiang Liu is the most clear-sighted character in the novel. That whole thing about an enlightened mind and understanding of impermanence that I mentioned in my write-up. He saw the situations for what they were and the options that he had and chose the one that best matched his values - honour, loyalty, and integrity. One of the things that I liked about this character is that he never comes across like a martyr or feels sorry for himself; I don't think he expects or wants anyone else to either.
Xiang Liu is the kind of person that we wish we could be or maybe try to be, but it's not at all easy.
He saw his own wishes less than everyone else's, or I would venture to say, his wishes was to fulfil the dreams of everyone he loved. And this is why I still cannot move on.
I think this is how Xiang Liu sees it too. Although he isn't doing this out of obligation; he does it because he wants to, because it's important to him. It's hard for us because we believe in the idea that good people deserve to have good things, and yet, the best person, the most selfless person in the novel ends up with nothing.
Shao Hao had no son so no crown prince. In the end he had to choose someone to take monarch title. And because of his debt to Qing Yang, Chang yi, Ah Heng, he had already chosen CX as his successor. He trained him to be a ruler. And he also train RS to be a good general and assistant. And Shao Hao in LYF was not as ambition as he was in Once Promised. It seemed that he was tired of being a lonely king. One of his reason to remain as king is to allow his daughters to do whatever they wanted. However, XY was not his daughter anymore (he could not use his power to protect/cover her anymore) and Ah Nian just wanted to marry CX.
your wish that RS fought against CX could only become reality when Gaoxin wanted to be independent and the Grand Emperor wanted to keep his thrown and the territorial integrity
Had he actually chosen CX as his successor in the book? If so, that just makes CX look worse. Why doesn't he just WAIT, instead of starting a war, putting A Nian in a terrible choice, and forcing Haolin Emperor to abdicate?
Actually Ru Shou was Haolin Emperor's nephew who he trained along with CX. There was talk of marrying Ru Shou to A Nian, which would make him his successor.
Why wouldn't Haolin Emperor want to keep his own country and throne and be independent? Not just for him, but for A Nian and her children, and his people?
nathsketch:
Why wouldn't Haolin Emperor want to keep his own country and throne and be independent? Not just for him, but for A Nian and her children, and his people?
The Grand Emperor covered his eyes “The world pities that I don’t have a son but they don’t know that I am grateful and relieved not to have a son. I’m afraid my son will be like me, if he’s like me who killed my own fa…..” (he means he killed his father). Moreover, after return from the desert, his injury and emotion from the last encounter with Ah Heng caused him depression that made his injury unheal
The Grand Emperor glanced at Zhuan Xu “I have many nephews but not a single one worthy. I did hand raise and train three very capable disciples: Ju Mang is reliable and pulls through, Ru So can be trusted with important tasks, and Zhuan Xu….” The Grand Emperor stared at Zhuan Xu with bright piercing eyes that made Zhuan Xu feel like he was being openly read and he wanted to avert his eyes but in the end he kept his eyes locked with the Grand Emperor.
The Grand Emperor continued “I taught you for two hundred years so I know that your ambition is not on one mountain or one land but on the vast wilderness. Since you left Gao Xing, I have been waiting for you to come back.”
Zhuan Xu’s heart sank “If Master already knew then why did you let me leave for Xuan Yuan?”
“Jing, help me.” The Grand Emperor gestured to the jewel map on the table.
Jing picked up the jewel and injected his power to project the map in the residence. The entire vast wilderness surrounded them all, the valleys, rivers, rolling vistas. In that moment everyone was stunned by the breadth.
The Grand Emperor said “Hundreds of years ago, on the plains of Yi Province, Xiao Yao’s mom pointed to a direction and asked me what is over there. I answered ‘Mountains, rivers, earth, and people.’ She changed three more directions and asked me the same whether it was in the direction of Gao Xing, Xuan Yuan, or Sheng Nong. My answer remained the same. I knew she already foresaw that one day Gao Xing would battle with Xuan Yuan but she didn’t want people to be sacrificed like her and Qi Yo. So she placed all her hopes with me to do the right thing and avoid the bloodshed.”
Zhuan Xu stared at the map and mulled over what his Auntie said.
The Grand Emperor smiled at Xiao Yao “When Zhuan Xu came to Gao Xing, he was young but already had the personality of Qing Yang which was a relief to me. I earnestly trained and taught him even as my officials worried I was training a future enemy. At that time I remembered what Ah Heng said and ignored the officials and continued to nurture Zhuan Xu. I worried the officials would plot to have their children lead him astray so I encouraged Zhuan Xu to travel the commoner world and live as they live. I urged him to travel all through Gao Xing and understand every inch of this land so that one day he could govern it properly.”
Zhuan Xu stared in confusion, he understood what the Grand Emperor was saying but didn’t understand what he was trying to get at.
The Grand Emperor said warmly “Zhuan Xu didn’t disappoint me, and even moreso he didn’t let down Qing Yang, Ah Heng, or his parents. Zhuan Xu grew up just like I had hoped. Or no, shall I shall he grew up even better than I expected. The Chang Yi and Bai Hu tribes are angry at me for not training and naming a successor. As the ruler of a kingdom how could I have forgotten to do such an important task. I not only trained a successor to rule Gao Xing, I even trained two good officials to serve him. The three children I raised: Ju Mang is reliable and pulls through, Ru So can be trusted with important tasks, and Zhuan Xu will be tasked with the entire world’s governance.”
Zhuan Xu tripped over his words “I….I don’t….don’t understand what Master means.”
The Grand Emperor smiled “Silly child, you’re the successor I prepared to rule Gao Xing!”
......
Xiao Yao felt all the dark clouds lifting and smiled “Dad, since you already wanted to give the throne to Zhuan Xu, why not tell him? Why make him into the smaller person and have to attack Gao Xing?”
The Grand Emperor explained “I may have reached this decision and the people of Gao Xing may be able to accept any ruler as long as he brings peace and prosperity. But Zhuan Xu is right in pointing out the court officials would never agree to it and I can’t influence such a powerful faction alone. Zhuan Xu needs to use his might to make them obey at the tip of the sword, where they are faced with loss or gain before they will all accept. Like the Bai Hu and Chang Yi tribes, haven’t they already accepted Zhuan Xu as their Emperor after weighing their pros and cons?”
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