I'll probably give it a try, because whatever its flaws, it was great to visit LYF again in Life Time of Love. So yes, I'm a bit shell shocked, but over all, I'm glad I powered through it.Kokuto:
Now you've got me wondering whether I want to brave the murky waters again to remind myself what you went through. LYF... Lifetime Love... which should it be. Hmmmm....
LOL! That's right, she had his heart! Or if she wanted to stay with Chi Yun, she could have just kept Nuo Su with her. In this version, she really did abandon XY! Don't get me started on the Yellow Emperor.
Yes. There was absolutely no excuse here, unlike A Heng in the novel. It just wrapped everything up beautifully while leaving a bitter aftertaste - the Yellow Emperor whitewashed so that the unification of the Great Wilderness is under the hands of a worthy, good king. The lovers loving each other so much that they put each other first, determined to stay together even while separated in death, everyone else paling into the background, even their own daughter.
There were definitely some missing princes, cause they named five, but I thought Ji Yi was the 9th prince.
Yes Ji Yi is still the 9th prince. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't recall the 5th, 7th and 8th princes being mentioned in the drama. Even in the novel, the 8th prince was only named in LYF, not Once Promised.
Xuan Yuan Princes - novel vs drama
| Seniority | Novel (1st edition) | Novel (Revised edition) | A Lifetime Love | |||
| 1 | 轩辕青阳 | Xuanyuan Qing Yang | 轩辕青阳 | Xuanyuan Qing Yang | 宣阳昱辰 | Xuanyang Yu Chen |
| 2 | 轩辕云泽 | Xuanyuan Yun Ze | 轩辕云泽 | Xuanyuan Yun Ze | 宣阳长周 | Xuanyang Chang Zhou |
| 3 | 轩辕挥 | Xuanyuan Hui | 轩辕挥 | Xuanyuan Hui | 宣阳挥 | Xuanyang Hui |
| 4 | 轩辕昌意 | Xuanyuan Chang Yi | 轩辕仲意 | Xuanyuan Zhong Yi | 宣阳知若 | XuanyangZhi Ruo |
| 5 | 轩辕苍林 | Xuanyuan Cang Lin | 轩辕德岩 | Xuanyuan De Yan | ||
| 6 | 轩辕休 | Xuanyuan Xiu | 轩辕休 | Xuanyuan Xiu | 宣阳休 | Xuanyang Xiu |
| 7 | 轩辕禹阳 | Xuanyuan Yu Yang | 轩辕禹阳 | Xuanyuan Yu Yang | ||
| 8 | 轩辕清 | Xuanyuan Qing | 轩辕清 | Xuanyuan Qing | ||
| 9 | 轩辕夷彭 | Xuanyuan Yi Peng | 轩辕夷澎 | Xuanyuan Yi Peng | 宣阳佶夷 | Xuanyang Ji Yi |
Heh ... the Abyss of Yu became the Abyss of Plot Holes. But even if Sir Bi's CGI was too expensive they could have done like they did for the bird, and have him become human.
In the novel, Sir Bi and Lie Yang only took on human form in LYF. Remember that during Xiao Yao's 70 years on Jade Mountain, they had not cultivated into human form yet. But you're right. If they could do it for Lie Yang in the drama, they could have done it for Sir Bi too. Nonetheless, both forms were equally lacklustre for me, so I guess I don't particularly care whether they showed up or not in the end...
We also had Hai Xiong disappear for a long time, and then suddenly show up near the end. I assumed he was injured in that big battle holding off the water in his dragon form -- which was cool! And he actually makes it into LYF, though I only vaguely remember the character.
Ying Long (Hai Xiong) is so cool during the flooding of Ze Province, and I teared up reading about how he protected the Xuan Yuan soldiers using his dragon form to form a barrier against the flood. I wish the drama had shown us far more of how awesome he was in that scene. In the novel, he blocked the flood first and finally collapsed, close to death when Chi Chen's mount Kun, in its fish form, shielded him from the downpour. After that, Chi Chen and his generals (including even Yan Zhuan, unlike the drama) rerouted the waters in 3 directions. The waves then carried his heavily injured body to the sea where he healed. Later, during the battle at Ban Quan, he showed up in his dragon form and enabled the fleeing defeated Xuan Yuan army to cross Ji River to safety. Nonetheless, he refused to join Xuan Yuan during the final battle against Shen Nong until A Heng convinced him, and he was there when A Heng announced her love for Chi Chen before the two warring armies.
And you're right. In LYF, he was the one who slapped Cang Xuan when the latter was still hanging out with Yue Liang, furious at how A Heng's son had turned out. And Miao Pu received confirmed news of Xiang Liu's death from him.
It's funny that for both Chi Yun and XL, we are worried about their birds. lol
Very true! Even TJC was concerned what became of Mao Qiu, and thanks to him, we were given that touching final scene between Xiang Liu and his faithful friend - one that still brings me to tears.
They really did. I mean, he basically was responsible for Chenrong losing, not to mention all the men he killed with his scheming and on the battlefield -- and all for himself. He certainly wasn't the sort that I could see XL defending. And HOW did Little Zhu Rong turn out so well? The drama Zhu Rong would have killed him and started over again, had he been as reasonable and concerned about others.
Exactly. In the novel, the four great generals were always united in the face of external threat even if they fought constantly among themselves. Which was why Hou Tu's defection when Yun Sang married Qing Yang, was a massive blow to morale, and heralded the beginning of the end for Shen Nong. In the leaked abandoned 2nd book 千方相 A Thousand Conjured Faces, Xiang Liu came after Hou Tu, intent on killing him and offering his head up as a sacrifice to Zhu Rong - an act that clearly was condoned by Gong Gong. By the same token, Little Zhu Rong was also being methodically hunted down for the same reason - for surrendering and betraying the Shen Nong kingdom.
Was Shenglun's brothers that bad also? I suddely could understand why he executed them after the rebellion.
Shao Hao grew up surrounded by danger, where brothers and even those he trusted such as his old nanny, made repeated attempts on his life for years. His sister also betrayed him to the Eminent Empress by relaying his words to her. The only true friend he had and loved was Qing Yang. Others, including his own father whom he murdered, were always weighed against the well-being of Gao Xin, and the solidification of his reign. The Five Princes revolt was one that threatened that stability and the well-being of his people. As such, I could never fault Shao Hao for his cruelty towards his own brothers. Thanks to that revolt, he lost Xiao Yao as well. Remembering how he punished the two maids whose words were responsible for Xiao Yao running away, I can't imagine he would have spared his brothers.
EDIT: Is it just me seeing ads randomly inserted in my posts in between my answers?
It's definitely an alternate universe What If? FFB could still end up in Qingshui Town, given the family profession. But it wouldn't be as XL. Where would he be XL, even? As FFB, he could still be in conflict with CX, given he was hired to kill him by the uncles. But he wouldn't have his commitment to them, like he had to Hong Jiang. So, yes, he could have promised her a lifetime.
Oh true, working for the uncles as a Fang Feng family archer-assassin could've brought him to QS town to kill CX. I wonder what his encounters with WXL/XY would've been like in those circumstances.
there would be no Shen Nong resistance army entrenched in the east of Qingshui Town, so neither Xiang Liu nor Cang Xuan would have any reason to be there, since there were no pockets of resistance to join or put down.liddi:
Hmm. Wasn't CX's real reason for going to QS town to look for XY after having searched every corner of Gao Xing for her? Facing off against XL and the remnant army seemed like a secondary reason, as well as a convenient cover to hide his main purpose.
Then again, if there was no remnant army then maybe QS town wouldn't have had the characteristics at that point that led WXL to settle there and that made it a place that was marginally safer for CX to visit than places that were wholly under Xuan Yuan control where his uncles could reach him more easily.
If there was no remnant army, would Xuan Yuan have invaded Gao Xing sooner?
Since Xuan Yuan already had complete control over the Central Plains, the Yellow Emperor's next target would inevitably be Gao Xin.
Inevitably.
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As such, I do not see Cang Xuan being sent as a glorified hostage to Gao Xin. If anything, the Yellow Emperor would either continue to mentor him personally, or send him to the Central Plains instead. Should Cang Xuan be sent to the Central Plains, the chances of him and Fangfeng Bei crossing paths and becoming acquaintances, even friends, is a likely one.
To the Central Plains? Where he'd be constantly vulnerable to all the people (former citizens of the Sheng Nong Kingdom and his uncles) who wanted to kill him? Where he'd be in the hands of the Yellow Emperor's recent former enemies? That doesn't seem like good strategy on the Yellow Emperor's part.
The only way I can picture the Yellow Emperor doing that would be if he took Feng Long hostage instead of Xing Yue, ordered CX and Xing Yue to be betrothed, and had Little Zhu Rong raise and mentor CX (as tense as that dynamic would necessarily be). Then it would be a strategic way of solidifying Xuan Yuan's control over the Central Plains / the former citizens of Sheng Nong.
Maybe if he effectively took Feng Long's place, CX would've become childhood friends with TSJ.
Tbh, I really dislike the idea of FFB and CX becoming friends because I'm not exactly a CX fan. But acquaintances could be okay.
As for Fangfeng Bei being hired to kill Cang Xuan, I am less inclined to think that would happen. I am not convinced that Xiang Liu would be an assassin for hire even if the Fangfeng clan's loyalties lie with De Yan, since there is no resistance army that he needs to keep alive.
If he chose to continue living as a member of the Fang Feng family, I'd imagine he'd be expected to participate in the family business to some extent. And I don't see why he wouldn't participate if he had the skillset and wasn't politically or morally opposed to a particular job. His level of motivation wouldn't be the same as it was in LYF in circumstances where he needed funds for the remnant army and sometimes his targets happened to be enemies of the remnant army (e.g., CX), but in this AU scenario I could still see him taking on the occasional assassin job and just being rather choosy about the ones he accepted.
Maybe he really wouldn't feel any need to seek revenge for Gong Gong. But I could see him possibly accepting a job to assassinate CX and seeing it as a means of taking revenge against many of the people who contributed to Gong Gong's death (mainly the Yellow Emperor) and taking out the person with the potential to gain the most from Gong Gong's death (if it looked like CX would become the Yellow Emperor's heir and would rule over the former Sheng Nong Kingdom as part of Xuan Yuan). I do like the idea of this not leading to him actually killing CX and instead leading to him meeting WXL / XY under a set of circumstances where he and CX were not trapped in a situation where one of them would eventually have to kill the other, directly or indirectly. A situation that actually had the potential for a happy ending between him and XY.
With imminent war between Gao Xin and Xuan Yuan, Shao Hao would very likely continue to leave Xiao Yao on Jade Mountain. When war breaks out, there is no reason Xiao Yao is unaware of it even on Jade Mountain as it affects the entire Great Wilderness - unlike the Five Princes revolt, which was internal strife that may not necessarily be common knowledge. In that case, I don't see her running away from Jade Mountain hoping to make her way back to Gao Xin. Rather, it is more likely that she would understand the need to stay put.
We already know from Once Promised that geographically, Gao Xin is at a massive disadvantage, relying on rivers as a natural barrier, and would fall once their enemies cross the river. It is also a known fact that the Central Plains are adept in water warfare. The Yellow Emperor would not necessarily employ the same strategy as Cang Xuan - conducting a war of attrition, minimising casualties and winning hearts of those they conquer. As such, I think the chances of the Xuan Yuan Great Army crossing the river and decisively bringing Gao Xin to its knees is only a matter of time. When the day comes, the unification of the Great Wilderness would be at hand.
As the Yellow Emperor's granddaughter, Xiao Yao would hold a revered position as a princess of the unified Great Wilderness. She would have the choice to stay with Cang Xuan as the Xuan Yuan princess, or remain with Shao Hao. Either way, she too has no need to run and hide or rely on her wits to stay alive. And the likelihood of her meeting Fangfeng Bei would definitely be there too. Would they both fall in love in this situation? There is no common trauma to draw her to Xiang Liu anymore. However, Xiao Yao, even as a child, was inherently wily, fearless and precocious. I can see them meeting and being drawn to each other - his looks captivated her from the moment they met; and he would still be able to see the same spirit that drew him to her originally. Yes, there is no more Lovers bug to link them together, but ultimately, the Lovers bug merely cemented a love that already existed between them, one that remained unchanging for those 120+ years. In this universe, with no loyalties putting them on opposing sides, there is nothing to keep them from acting upon any attraction they might feel. While the Fangfeng clan is a lesser clan in the Great Wilderness, as her mother's daughter, I believe Xiao Yao, without the trauma of abandonment, would also be courageous in following her heart rather than the dictates of family or society. Likewise, Xiang Liu, without the shackles of responsibility and loyalty to a resistance army, would not force himself to stay away from what he wants. And perhaps in this universe, we may see the fruition of Fangfeng Bei's words - "Why don’t you not be a Princess anymore and go wander the world with me?"
It's a bit strange. The idea of a less traumatized XY meeting FFB should be appealing... but her trauma added so much poignancy to the story and relationship, it's really hard to picture their relationship having the same level of depth and emotion in a circumstance where XY never ran away from Jade Mountain, never worried about the identity of her father, never lost her face and identity / princess status, was never tricked by the nine-tailed fox, never lost her powers, and never wandered across the wilderness with a false identity.
Hmm. Wasn't CX's real reason for going to QS town to look for XY after having searched every corner of Gao Xing for her? Facing off against XL and the remnant army seemed like a secondary reason, as well as a convenient cover to hide his main purpose.AH :
Then again, if there was no remnant army then maybe QS town wouldn't have had the characteristics at that point that led WXL to settle there and that made it a place that was marginally safer for CX to visit than places that were wholly under Xuan Yuan control where his uncles could reach him more easily.
In a world where Hong Jiang was already dead before the final battle, I don't see a resistance army being entrenched in the vicinity of Qingshui Town. By the same token, since Xuan Yuan would have gone to battle with Gao Xin after Shen Nong was vanquished, I am less inclined to believe that Xiao Yao would have run away from Jade Mountain to find her father, because she would be well aware why he was unable to fetch her yet. As such, there is no need for Cang Xuan to look for her, because her location was already known. If anything, he would have sought her out at Jade Mountain when he could, assuming the Xuan Yuan-Gao Xin war had not ended by then.
If there was no remnant army, would Xuan Yuan have invaded Gao Xing sooner?
Yes, I believe so. Without the existence of a resistance army which is secretly aided by the clans of the Central Plains, Xuan Yuan could focus its attention on the last bastion that prevented the unification of the Great Wilderness - Gao Xin. A Heng was dead, Xiao Yao was in Jade Mountain. There was nothing to prevent Xuan Yuan from declaring war against Gao Xin.
To the Central Plains? Where he'd be constantly vulnerable to all the people (former citizens of the Sheng Nong Kingdom and his uncles) who wanted to kill him? Where he'd be in the hands of the Yellow Emperor's recent former enemies? That doesn't seem like good strategy on the Yellow Emperor's part.
The only way I can picture the Yellow Emperor doing that would be if he took Feng Long hostage instead of Xing Yue, ordered CX and Xing Yue to be betrothed, and had Little Zhu Rong raise and mentor CX (as tense as that dynamic would necessarily be). Then it would be a strategic way of solidifying Xuan Yuan's control over the Central Plains / the former citizens of Sheng Nong.
You bring up a good point there. However, I was not thinking about Cang Xuan being sent immediately to the Central Plains, exactly because of the dangers you cited. I expect the Yellow Emperor to observe, and still put in place the same precautions - Xin Yue and her mother the hostages to keep Little Yan Zhuan in check. And when Little Yan Zhuan's loyalty is no longer in question, he might send Cang Xuan to the Central Plains to be mentored by Little Yan Zhuan, and understand the land of which he would one day rule, as he had sworn to A Heng.
Maybe if he effectively took Feng Long's place, CX would've become childhood friends with TSJ.
This is definitely a possibility since the Tushan clan is one of the Four Great Families, and would certainly host the favoured grandson of the Yellow Emperor, especially if the Chishui clan had already taken him under their wing. Though I see it more as Cang Xuan becoming friends with Feng Long and Jing.
However, in this universe, it still does not change the fact that Jing would be betrothed to Yi Ying, and Hou would imprison and torture him for 4 years before leaving him for dead. And since Xiao Yao never left Jade Mountain and ended up in Qingshui Town as Wen Xiao Liu, I don't think Jing would survive.
Unless - his friendship with the ever-perceptive Cang Xuan enables him to be alerted to guard against Hou. And perhaps since Xiao Yao was never lost in this universe, Jing might have met her through Cang Xuan and fallen in love with her. Actually, do we know whether he would have fallen in love with her, if she had not been the one who saved him and restored confidence in himself as a man? Without that added element, she would be just another beautiful woman in the Great Wilderness, and not one whom he would have a reason to violate the Tushan ancestral precepts for. Perhaps he would still choose to marry his betrothed instead.
Tbh, I really dislike the idea of FFB and CX becoming friends because I'm not exactly a CX fan. But acquaintances could be okay.
LOL. I am not exactly sure that they would be friends either, but certainly they have the opportunity to cross paths. Still, the Cang Xuan we know is one who got along well with people from all walks of life, so it is perhaps not that far-fetched that they might become friends after all.
but in this AU scenario I could still see him taking on the occasional assassin job and just being rather choosy about the ones he accepted.
I guess it's possible.
Maybe he really wouldn't feel any need to seek revenge for Gong Gong. But I could see him possibly accepting a job to assassinate CX and seeing it as a means of taking revenge against many of the people who contributed to Gong Gong's death (mainly the Yellow Emperor) and taking out the person with the potential to gain the most from Gong Gong's death (if it looked like CX would become the Yellow Emperor's heir and would rule over the former Sheng Nong Kingdom as part of Xuan Yuan).
Ah, but in this universe, it was Yan Zhuan who killed Hong Jiang. So strictly speaking, if he really were planning to seek revenge, it would be against Little Yan Zhuan and his children, rather than the Yellow Emperor.
It's a bit strange. The idea of a less traumatized XY meeting FFB should be appealing... but her trauma added so much poignancy to the story and relationship, it's really hard to picture their relationship having the same level of depth and emotion in a circumstance where XY never ran away from Jade Mountain, never worried about the identity of her father, never lost her face and identity / princess status, was never tricked by the nine-tailed fox, never lost her powers, and never wandered across the wilderness with a false identity.
Yes. It is the element of her trauma and his loyalty that brings so much poignancy to their relationship, and makes us ache immeasurably for what could have been, even after so long. If she never suffered so much, and they were not standing on opposing sides, theirs would be a simpler, happier tale of two people who love each other and overcome the usual obstacles to finally be together in the end - roaming the world. He would not have needed to make it his life's goal to give her a companion she could rely on for life; the ability to protect herself; and a place to call home. With her impressive spiritual powers and her position as the princess of Xuan Yuan and Gao Xin, she already had the latter two. And there was nothing to stop him from being the person she wanted to spend the entirety of her own life with.
Still, in this universe, I would have loved to see a younger Xiao Yao meet Xiang Liu for the first time during her years on Jade Mountain, though to be honest, I do not know what reason he would have to go there, unless it is to visit Sir Bi, whom he might have met before in the past. She might have decided to tackle Mao Qiu who would not have had much patience for this fearless child who dared to try and catch it. That would have given their subsequent reunion in the Central Plains a greater level of significance... her curiosity triggered, having seen him white haired and white robed in the past. I can imagine her seeking him out, trying to figure out the truth behind his apparent alter ego, even asking Cang Xuan to find out everything about Fangfeng Bei. And their relationship would build from there - visiting his home under the ocean while he regularly transfers air to her, exploring remote islands, sharing the glorious sight of the moon as they walked on the water together.
What happened to Hou Tu / Kun Pu?
He continued to serve the Yellow Emperor after Yun Sang's death, even saving him from being assassinated during the Yellow Emperor's visit to the Central Plains. He was also one of the various emissaries the Yellow Emperor sent to persuade Xiang Liu to change allegiance over the years prior to Cang Xuan's ascent to the throne. In Once Promised:Side Story, Luo Jia was also the one who manipulated events such that Yu Jiang's older brother Xuan Ting was executed. It was through his recommendation that Cang Xuan proposed Little Yan Zhuan (Shen'nong Yi) as a candidate to govern Zhi Yi and Ze Province after Xuan Ting's incarceration.
Why do they have different surnames? I'm looking at Yu Chen and Zhi Ruo, specifically, but lots of the Xuan Yuan characters don't. Or are they just not including their surnames?
Yu Chen and Zhi Ruo are their given names. All of them have the Xuanyang (Xuanyuan) surname, so their full names are Xuanyang Yu Chen (Xuanyang Qing Yang), Xuanyang Zhi Ruo (Xuanyuan Zhong Yi). Only the 3rd, 6th and 8th princes had a single character for their names - Hui, Xiu and Qing. Lemme edit the table to include their full names to avoid confusion.
Lol. Looks like we shared a similar opinion on this series.
So if there was no Gong Gong when XL left the North Pole and became FFB... he wouldn't have been in the mountains near QS town. He wouldn't have met WXL/XY there.
Or maybe they just wouldn't fall in love at all...
Idk how to feel about that.
It sounds great to me. Jing gets stuck with XY. XY gets stuck with Jing.
XL gets to be free with Maio Qiu.
Wins, all around.
The biggest winner of all would be moi!!! :-)
And how have you been? I feel like we haven't chatted in months.
Life has been busy, and I've been ill, so I haven't been around as much. Just getting back on the boards now to find a bunch of new posts :-)
NGL, the quality is ... not good for a variety of reasons.
The production quality of this series was questionable. I don't understand why. This was released after Bu Bu Jing Xin, which was a huge success, so you would have thought that another adaptation of TH's novel would have been better. They also got Huang Xiao Ming, who is a big star. Maybe all the money went into hiring him and his wig??? :-)
I was a little disappointed with Shao Hao, though he looked nice, he didn't emote much. Wouldn't it have been something if they had actually got Daddy Emperor to play him back then? He was quite handsome when he was younger.
Liddi mentioned that physically, he suited Shao Hao (I don't remember much details of Once Promised), but he really didn't have the acting chops needed for the character.
Hmm! Daddy Emperor was a "mei nam" during his days, but he is similar in age to HXM. I think they wanted someone younger for Shao Hao. Peter Sheng was popular at the time thanks to Go, Princess Go! But the man is worse than a block of wood. To be fair to him, the series has more issues than his casting. As always, the awful script was the biggest culprit.
The production quality of this series was questionable. I don't understand why. This was released after Bu Bu Jing Xin, which was a huge success, so you would have thought that another adaptation of TH's novel would have been better. They also got Huang Xiao Ming, who is a big star. Maybe all the money went into hiring him and his wig??? :-)HeadInTheClouds:
LOL! Totally spent that money on the wig. ;p
I think the CGI was probably considered pretty good for that time, but it has not aged well. I suspect a lot of money went into it also. I also wonder if the costumer made a conscious decision to abandon typical Chinese costumes in favor of a horrible mishmash of pseudo LOTR and pseudo Chinese, because it was set in a mythological fantasy? But why so much synthetics? They looked dreadful. There is no excuse, however, for the sets. It's like they raided every Chinese restaurant they could find and threw what they grabbed on the set ... after they painted half of them in gold or the gaudiest colors.
Liddi mentioned that physically, he suited Shao Hao (I don't remember much details of Once Promised), but he really didn't have the acting chops needed for the character.
Hmm! Daddy Emperor was a "mei nam" during his days, but he is similar in age to HXM. I think they wanted someone younger for Shao Hao. Peter Sheng was popular at the time thanks to Go, Princess Go! But the man is worse than a block of wood. To be fair to him, the series has more issues than his casting. As always, the awful script was the biggest culprit.
No, Peter Sheng didn't have the acting chops at all. His face was frozen.
Interesting. I got the impression that Chi Yun was younger than Shao Hao. Maybe it was the Tarzan phase.
It's hard to tell which to blame more, the script or the acting. ouch
Lol. Looks like we shared a similar opinion on this series.
It sounds great to me. Jing gets stuck with XY. XY gets stuck with Jing.
XL gets to be free with Maio Qiu.
Wins, all around.
The biggest winner of all would be moi!!! :-)
I'll be the first to admit, A Life Time of Love is not good. But it was easier to watch the drama than to google translate the book, and I really wanted to know what happened.
LOL! Your favorite Alternate Universe LYF ... about the same, but keep XL alive.
Life has been busy, and I've been ill, so I haven't been around as much. Just getting back on the boards now to find a bunch of new posts :-)
I'm sorry to hear you've been ill. :(
Yu Chen and Zhi Ruo are their given names. All of them have the Xuanyang (Xuanyuan) surname, so their full names are Xuanyang Yu Chen (Xuanyang Qing Yang), Xuanyang Zhi Ruo (Xuanyuan Zhong Yi). Only the 3rd, 6th and 8th princes had a single character for their names - Hui, Xiu and Qing. Lemme edit the table to include their full names to avoid confusion.
Thank you for the clarification. I don't think they even put the full names on the cast lists.
He continued to serve the Yellow Emperor after Yun Sang's death, even saving him from being assassinated during the Yellow Emperor's visit to the Central Plains.
Okay, it's coming back to me. I remember you or someone else talking about Hou Tu now. So, he survived both books, too! Interesting that he never went back to Chenrong...
Life has been busy, and I've been ill, so I haven't been around as much.
I'm so sorry to hear that you've not been well. Hope that you are fully recovered now.
Liddi mentioned that physically, he suited Shao Hao (I don't remember much details of Once Promised), but he really didn't have the acting chops needed for the character.
was a little disappointed with Shao Hao, though he looked nice, he didn't emote much.
Shao Hao was described thus in the novels:
His voice was as clear and resonant as a phoenix’s cry—like a breeze stirring drifting clouds, like fine rain falling on fresh lotus leaves. It came naturally, quietly, leaving no trace. Yet all the attendants writhing on the ground felt their pain ease, their suffering lifted.
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It was the moment of sunrise. All around Jade Mountain, clouds rose in waves, glowing with vibrant colors and dazzling brilliance filling the sky. A man in white standing atop a black xuan bird pierced through the clouds and sunlight in a dazzling descent, landing gracefully at the base of the jade steps before the great hall.
Flanking the white jade path, peach trees bloomed in vibrant splendor, their petals drifting like delicate rain. The wings of the xuan bird stirred a gust that sent thick layers of peach blossom petals swirling into the air, mingling with the falling petals. Under the golden dawn, the entire world seemed awash in soft crimson, dazzling the eyes. In the midst of it, the tall figure in white ascended the jade stairs slowly with effortless poise and innate elegance.
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The Royal Mother gazed intently at Shao Hao, quietly astonished. People often said: for majestic mountains, go north; for graceful waters, go south—northern peaks and southern rivers, each embodied utterly distinct beauty. Yet the man before her seemed to embody both: the stern majesty of snow-capped northern ranges, austere and untouchable, and the gentle refinement of mist-laden southern streams, elegant and poised. That a man could possess the essence of both mountain and stream—such harmony was almost unthinkable.
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Shao Hao’s features were refined and elegant, yet his brows were stark and formidable—like towering northern peaks, cold and solitary, standing in solemn silence beneath the vast sky.
A Heng couldn't help but wonder: What kind of eyes must he have to counter such an imposing mountain?
Just as the thought formed, Shao Hao opened his eyes. They were like twin still lakes, calm and clear, yet unfathomably deep—resembling the vast southern waters that stretched for a thousand miles. Within them lay the freedom of drifting clouds and distant trees, the leisure of misty evenings and soft music, the tenderness of fluttering plumage and flowing silk sleeves. The austere grandeur of the mountains seemed to dissolve, gently melting into the serenity of those endless waters.
Meeting his gaze head-on, A Heng's face flushed instantly, burning hot, and she quickly turned her head away in flustered embarrassment.
-- Once Promised Vol 1 Ch6
Shi Qi carried Xiao Liu straight inside. In the depths of the dimly lit hall, a sandalwood pallet was placed directly ahead, upon which sat a man dressed in white. His features were cold and sharply defined, as if carved from the icy peaks of the far north. He did not appear old—roughly in his thirties—but his dark hair was already streaked with silver, exuding an indescribable air of sorrow and time-worn weariness.
-- LYF Vol 1 Ch9
But yes. Unfortunately the actor did not deliver the nuances of Shao Hao's complex character.
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hi guys!! I'm so late to the party, I just finished watching LYF ss2 yesterday and found this discussion. I'm so glad to see that it's still active as I have so many questions :(
Welcome! So good to see that the drama is still attracting new viewers. Did you marathon both seasons? Have you read the novel? The good thing is that you are spared the year long wait in between seasons, though that in itself was also a novelty since it allowed us to speculate what S2 would be, especially when we had the leaked S2 script which dismayed many of us when we read it. Either way, very good to see you here and ask away! Would be interesting to see the drama through fresh eyes.
hi guys!! I'm so late to the party, I just finished watching LYF ss2 yesterday and found this discussion. I'm so glad to see that it's still active as I have so many questions :(
What liddi said! Welcome!
Yes, we are chatty and love to discuss the details and all the layers and interpretations. Alot. :)
Interesting. I got the impression that Chi Yun was younger than Shao Hao. Maybe it was the Tarzan phase.
It's hard to tell which to blame more, the script or the acting. ouch
My impression was that Chi Yun was older or around the same age.
I can put up with mediocre acting if the script keeps me interested, but good acting just can't save a bad script for me. Maybe, in a 2-hour movie, I can stick around for the acting. But, a 30+ hour series? Nope.
LOL! Your favorite Alternate Universe LYF ... about the same, but keep XL alive.
Heh. A long as XL is alive, happy and free, I don't care what they change. Put him on Pluto. Make him gay. Heck, make him gay, then put him on Pluto. I don't care :-). If they insisted on the romance with XY, that's fine. I just want to request that she take responsibility for her healing. The poor man has already spent hundreds of years taking care of people; give him some rest :-).
I'm sorry to hear you've been ill. :(
I'm so sorry to hear that you've not been well. Hope that you are fully recovered now.
Thank you, ladies. I got Shingles and haven't been well mentally, either. Difficult to say which one came first. The Shingles is gone, and I'm working on the other one. If you haven't got vaccinated for Shingles, it would be a good idea to do so.
hi guys!! I'm so late to the party, I just finished watching LYF ss2 yesterday and found this discussion. I'm so glad to see that it's still active as I have so many questions :(
Welcome to the board.
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