I don't know about others, but for me, her appearance has never been a factor. She’s just another pretty actress to me—nothing particularly fancy—so I would never judge her acting based on that.
And trying different genres doesn’t automatically make someone a good actor. Again, this is purely my personal opinion of GYJ. Maybe in the future, if she genuinely improves as an actor, I’ll be the first to praise her. But as of now, I still stand by what I said: I find her very performative. When she acts, I’m often unable to forget that I’m watching GYJ rather than the character she’s playing. At least that’s how her performances come across to me. I struggle to connect with her characters because I don’t feel she brings them to life through her performances; instead, I often feel the writing and direction are doing most of the heavy lifting.
As for CEW, I felt his performances in *Wonderfools* and *Wonderful World* were quite similar. I personally didn’t see much difference in his acting or feel that he showed a significantly different range in either role. Again, that’s just my personal opinion.
Nonetheless, we all have our own opinions. You’re free to be happy with yours, and I’ll be happy with mine. This is a discussion site, after all, and I’m going to state my opinion because that’s what discussion is supposed to be about.
And just to be clear, I never called GYJ a bad actor—not even once. I don’t think she’s a terrible actor. I simply don’t think she’s at a level where I would watch a drama solely *because* she’s in it. So far, it has been the production, the writing, the other actors, or the overall project that has drawn me to her works; she just happened to be part of those projects.
To be fair, every actress is pretty, so judging an actor as good or bad based on their looks is not my cup of tea.
GYJ is undoubtedly a popular actress, but as an actor, I find her below average—and I stand by that opinion, especially because I’ve happened to watch all of her works. She has been part of some really big projects with my favourite actors and screenwriters, so I’ve had plenty of opportunities to see her performances. I find her acting very performative, and her delivery is often poor and slurry, which takes away from the performance for me. And that’s simply my honest opinion of her as an actor.
If you like her acting, great. But let’s also be real here: she isn’t primarily watched for her acting. A big part of her appeal comes from her appearance and from being associated with high-profile projects. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that either. There’s a huge market for actors who can attract audiences through their looks (specially asian market), or simply by being part of projects backed by established actors, directors, or screenwriters.
It won’t necessarily be bad—it might actually make those K-drama visual fanatics happy. Let’s be honest, no one watches either of them for their acting anyway. They’re both below-average actors who usually need a solid script or strong co-stars to carry a project. So putting two weak actors together isn’t automatically a problem; it just means the script and direction will have to do more of the heavy lifting for the show to work.
But then, if Yoona and Chaemin can get lucky, why can’t they? And interestingly, both CEW and GYJ are pretty good examples of celebrities who have gotten extremely lucky despite having below-average skills.
Her acting was pretty decent—it was never bad. She's a promising actress, and she's fortunate to be with an influential agency like MAA that has strong industry connections. Considering she's only been in the industry for a few years, the company has done an excellent job of securing high-profile opportunities for her—from major ensemble productions alongside established actors to her first lead role in such a huge project. Now she just needs to keep working hard and continue refining her craft.
sorry! And sadly, he's an A- or S-list actor while GYJ is definitely not.
Then ask them to join a company with the kind of backing and resources MAA has.
Also, I forgot to mention this earlier in my main commnet: luck is a huge factor in this industry. Anyone with basic common sense can see that GYJ has been incredibly fortunate with the projects she's landed as most of them ended becoming successful. And that's not an insult—it's just reality.
Luck is a major part of this industry. No matter how talented or hardworking you are, if luck doesn't go your way, your craft alone often isn't enough. So yes, I absolutely think she's benefited from exceptional luck, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. It doesn't take away from the work she's put in; it simply recognizes that timing, opportunities, strong management, and the right backing all play a massive role in building a career.
I genuinely hope your other fav actors/actresses get the same kind of opportunities, backing, and luck that she's had, because those things can make an enormous difference in how a career unfolds.
sorry! And sadly, he's an A- or S-list actor while GYJ is definitely not.
Now, kindly don't reply impulsively. Take the time to read what I've actually written, calmly and carefully, because that's the only way this conversation won't spiral into a discussion about points I never made.
sorry! And sadly, he's an A- or S-list actor while GYJ is definitely not.
This is exactly the kind of fan exaggeration I was talking about.
Nowhere did I question her craft or say she isn't hardworking. You're arguing against points I never made. My comment was about calling her a **huge star**, which she currently isn't.
Everything you mentioned—her intelligence, script choices, being a cinephile, her interviews, and her potential to become critically acclaimed—has nothing to do with whether she's already a huge star.
Let's be real: if *Moving* didn't have those massive names attached to it, far fewer people would've tuned in. The same goes for most of her projects. They've consistently had major writers, prestigious production houses, established actors, or popular source material backing them. They were never projects sold primarily on her name alone.
And your rom-com argument doesn't make much sense either. You make it sound as if becoming popular through rom-coms somehow makes an actor less deserving, while avoiding them makes someone more serious about their craft. That's simply not true. Plenty of highly respected and mainstream actors and actresses became famous through romance, while many others broke out through thrillers, historical dramas, slice-of-life dramas, action, or films. There's no "superior" path.
Besides, GYJ herself hasn't avoided romance. *Alchemy of Souls* has romance as one of its central elements, and *Can This Love Be Translated?*s a romantic comedy(Atleast first half was cuz the second half was just nonsensical tragedy to watch). So saying she didn't take that route isn't entirely accurate. More importantly, the genre is irrelevant to my argument. My point has always been about who carries a project.
There are actresses around her age, and even some with longer careers simply because they debuted earlier and spent years in supporting roles, who have already proven they can carry dramas and even films on their own. Simply having more years in the industry doesn't mean they've had more lead opportunities. Some spent years doing supporting roles before finally getting a chance as leads, yet they still managed to headline and carry projects primarily on their own name, without relying on an A-list cast, a famous writer, or a massive existing IP. That's the difference I'm talking about.
So let's call her a huge star when she actually headlines and carries a project that's marketed and sold primarily on **her** name, without the cushion of an A-list cast, top writers, prestigious production houses, or a massive existing IP. That's what I mean by a true star.
She may very well get there in the future. But saying she's already there is exactly the exaggeration I was talking about.
The argument was always simple: **she isn't a huge star yet.** I have no problem acknowledging that she's popular because she absolutely is. But everything else you brought up was never the point. You argued against things I never said instead of addressing the actual claim.
sorry! And sadly, he's an A- or S-list actor while GYJ is definitely not.
He is the only one who's both a huge star and critically acclaimed. She, on the other hand, is just a popular actor, like many other visual-focused actors and actresses in Korea. There are plenty of people with a similar level of popularity.
As for the role, I believe there are nine warriors in that movie, so they're all part of the main cast—not just her. She's not carrying the film; she's simply one member of an ensemble cast riding on the coattails of Lee Byung-hun. (Just like she always had with all of her dramas whether it's actors or production house or writers)
So praise her for what she should be praised for—her popularity. Though in today's landscape, becoming popular is easier than ever. But popularity and having the ability to command an entire movie solely on your own shoulders are two completely different things. There are actresses around her age already carrying films/dramas on their own. Her a huge star? These days, fans have crossed every line of delusion.
PERFECT CROWN is #1 KOREAN TITLE PREMIERE OF ALL TIME 🔥👏🏻🥳Posted by Hulu on Instagram.https://www.instagram.com/p/DZdqvzljoEV/?igsh=YjAyYzhxcjgwZGk4Congrats…
Genuine question: when Disney+ and Hulu say it's the "No. 1 Korean title premiere of all time," what exactly is that based on?
1. "No. 1" by what metric—viewing hours, views, unique accounts, completion rate, or something else? 2. Over what tracking period was this measured? 3. Compared to which Korean titles exactly? 4. By how much did it surpass the previous record holder?
I'm not questioning the claim itself—I'm just curious about the data and methodology behind it, since I couldn't find any actual figures or explanation in the Instagram post. Without that context, it's difficult to understand the scale of the achievement rather than simply taking a marketing statement at face value.
This is neither a comedy nor a romance drama. It will be darker, scarier and have more action. So in the end I…
I wasn't saying the dramas are the same. That's why I wrote "feels a lot like" instead of "is similar to." I was referring to the initial setup—a haunted palace and a royal court being at the centre of the story—which immediately reminded me of The Haunted Palace.
Whether the tone ends up being darker, scarier, or more action-heavy is a different matter. Two dramas can share a similar premise and still be very different in execution. With how many dramas are being produced these days, some overlap in concepts is inevitable.
What I'm most interested in is the execution, and given the budget and Netflix backing, I'm expecting it to be done really well. It was simply an observation about the premise, not a claim that the two dramas are the same.
This drama feels a lot like "The Haunted Palace", but with a bigger budget and better CGI/VFX, along with the massive marketing push that Netflix will provide.
Pretty sure the 3 thieves who are the main leads are based on the novel and the JP vers, so why are KHY and LCM…
Guessing characters and discussing possible dynamics is completely fine, but labeling actors as “main lead,” “second lead,” or “supporting” isn’t really necessary in an ensemble cast. Guessing can be done without all that fuss.
People really need to stop arguing about “first bill,” “main lead,” “supporting role,” etc. This is officially an ensemble cast, which means the story is built around multiple important characters, not one central lead.
Anyone who knows *Namiya General Store* knows it consists of interconnected stories and different character arcs. Not every actor will even be shooting together all the time because filming depends on which storyline is being shot.
Billing, salary, and screen time are also different things. They depend on agency negotiations, experience, brand value, and number of shooting days — not on who is “more important.”
In an ensemble cast, every actor matters to the story. That’s literally the whole point of an ensemble project.
Pretty sure the 3 thieves who are the main leads are based on the novel and the JP vers, so why are KHY and LCM…
It’s an ensemble cast — there’s no strict “main” or “secondary” role here. Every character and every actor contributes to the core story, so each role carries importance in the narrative.
As for this site, kisskh often uses tags and speculative listings, so it’s not always reliable for character information. Until the drama is officially released, nobody really knows exactly who’s playing whom or how the story is going to be laid out. But one thing that does seem clear is that this project is being structured as an ensemble cast.
Love the “Wonderfool trio: Chaeni–Robin–GyeongUn.” All three of them are such good actors. It’s been a while since I’ve seen Eunbin in her chaotic, free-spirited era like in *Hello, My Twenties!*. Overall, *The WONDERfools* is such a fun drama. 🫶
Since the drama is adapted from a manhwa, the over-the-top and cartoonish style is completely intentional — that’s part of its charm. And that’s exactly why skilled actors and good direction mattered here.
Usually, adaptations like this fall into bad caricature-like overacting, but this cast balances exaggerated expressions with restraint, so nothing feels cringe or awkward on screen. Every actor fits their character naturally, and the importance of strong acting and direction is really evident here.
Please Korea, we need such actors on screen. Focus on casting actors for their skills and passion for acting, not just face value and popularity. Strong performances make dramas far more immersive and memorable.
And trying different genres doesn’t automatically make someone a good actor. Again, this is purely my personal opinion of GYJ. Maybe in the future, if she genuinely improves as an actor, I’ll be the first to praise her. But as of now, I still stand by what I said: I find her very performative. When she acts, I’m often unable to forget that I’m watching GYJ rather than the character she’s playing. At least that’s how her performances come across to me. I struggle to connect with her characters because I don’t feel she brings them to life through her performances; instead, I often feel the writing and direction are doing most of the heavy lifting.
As for CEW, I felt his performances in *Wonderfools* and *Wonderful World* were quite similar. I personally didn’t see much difference in his acting or feel that he showed a significantly different range in either role. Again, that’s just my personal opinion.
Nonetheless, we all have our own opinions. You’re free to be happy with yours, and I’ll be happy with mine. This is a discussion site, after all, and I’m going to state my opinion because that’s what discussion is supposed to be about.
And just to be clear, I never called GYJ a bad actor—not even once. I don’t think she’s a terrible actor. I simply don’t think she’s at a level where I would watch a drama solely *because* she’s in it. So far, it has been the production, the writing, the other actors, or the overall project that has drawn me to her works; she just happened to be part of those projects.
GYJ is undoubtedly a popular actress, but as an actor, I find her below average—and I stand by that opinion, especially because I’ve happened to watch all of her works. She has been part of some really big projects with my favourite actors and screenwriters, so I’ve had plenty of opportunities to see her performances. I find her acting very performative, and her delivery is often poor and slurry, which takes away from the performance for me. And that’s simply my honest opinion of her as an actor.
If you like her acting, great. But let’s also be real here: she isn’t primarily watched for her acting. A big part of her appeal comes from her appearance and from being associated with high-profile projects. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that either. There’s a huge market for actors who can attract audiences through their looks (specially asian market), or simply by being part of projects backed by established actors, directors, or screenwriters.
But then, if Yoona and Chaemin can get lucky, why can’t they? And interestingly, both CEW and GYJ are pretty good examples of celebrities who have gotten extremely lucky despite having below-average skills.
Also, I forgot to mention this earlier in my main commnet: luck is a huge factor in this industry. Anyone with basic common sense can see that GYJ has been incredibly fortunate with the projects she's landed as most of them ended becoming successful. And that's not an insult—it's just reality.
Luck is a major part of this industry. No matter how talented or hardworking you are, if luck doesn't go your way, your craft alone often isn't enough. So yes, I absolutely think she's benefited from exceptional luck, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. It doesn't take away from the work she's put in; it simply recognizes that timing, opportunities, strong management, and the right backing all play a massive role in building a career.
I genuinely hope your other fav actors/actresses get the same kind of opportunities, backing, and luck that she's had, because those things can make an enormous difference in how a career unfolds.
Nowhere did I question her craft or say she isn't hardworking. You're arguing against points I never made. My comment was about calling her a **huge star**, which she currently isn't.
Everything you mentioned—her intelligence, script choices, being a cinephile, her interviews, and her potential to become critically acclaimed—has nothing to do with whether she's already a huge star.
Let's be real: if *Moving* didn't have those massive names attached to it, far fewer people would've tuned in. The same goes for most of her projects. They've consistently had major writers, prestigious production houses, established actors, or popular source material backing them. They were never projects sold primarily on her name alone.
And your rom-com argument doesn't make much sense either. You make it sound as if becoming popular through rom-coms somehow makes an actor less deserving, while avoiding them makes someone more serious about their craft. That's simply not true. Plenty of highly respected and mainstream actors and actresses became famous through romance, while many others broke out through thrillers, historical dramas, slice-of-life dramas, action, or films. There's no "superior" path.
Besides, GYJ herself hasn't avoided romance. *Alchemy of Souls* has romance as one of its central elements, and *Can This Love Be Translated?*s a romantic comedy(Atleast first half was cuz the second half was just nonsensical tragedy to watch). So saying she didn't take that route isn't entirely accurate. More importantly, the genre is irrelevant to my argument. My point has always been about who carries a project.
There are actresses around her age, and even some with longer careers simply because they debuted earlier and spent years in supporting roles, who have already proven they can carry dramas and even films on their own. Simply having more years in the industry doesn't mean they've had more lead opportunities. Some spent years doing supporting roles before finally getting a chance as leads, yet they still managed to headline and carry projects primarily on their own name, without relying on an A-list cast, a famous writer, or a massive existing IP. That's the difference I'm talking about.
So let's call her a huge star when she actually headlines and carries a project that's marketed and sold primarily on **her** name, without the cushion of an A-list cast, top writers, prestigious production houses, or a massive existing IP. That's what I mean by a true star.
She may very well get there in the future. But saying she's already there is exactly the exaggeration I was talking about.
The argument was always simple: **she isn't a huge star yet.** I have no problem acknowledging that she's popular because she absolutely is. But everything else you brought up was never the point. You argued against things I never said instead of addressing the actual claim.
As for the role, I believe there are nine warriors in that movie, so they're all part of the main cast—not just her. She's not carrying the film; she's simply one member of an ensemble cast riding on the coattails of Lee Byung-hun. (Just like she always had with all of her dramas whether it's actors or production house or writers)
So praise her for what she should be praised for—her popularity. Though in today's landscape, becoming popular is easier than ever. But popularity and having the ability to command an entire movie solely on your own shoulders are two completely different things. There are actresses around her age already carrying films/dramas on their own. Her a huge star? These days, fans have crossed every line of delusion.
1. "No. 1" by what metric—viewing hours, views, unique accounts, completion rate, or something else?
2. Over what tracking period was this measured?
3. Compared to which Korean titles exactly?
4. By how much did it surpass the previous record holder?
I'm not questioning the claim itself—I'm just curious about the data and methodology behind it, since I couldn't find any actual figures or explanation in the Instagram post. Without that context, it's difficult to understand the scale of the achievement rather than simply taking a marketing statement at face value.
Whether the tone ends up being darker, scarier, or more action-heavy is a different matter. Two dramas can share a similar premise and still be very different in execution. With how many dramas are being produced these days, some overlap in concepts is inevitable.
What I'm most interested in is the execution, and given the budget and Netflix backing, I'm expecting it to be done really well. It was simply an observation about the premise, not a claim that the two dramas are the same.
Anyone who knows *Namiya General Store* knows it consists of interconnected stories and different character arcs. Not every actor will even be shooting together all the time because filming depends on which storyline is being shot.
Billing, salary, and screen time are also different things. They depend on agency negotiations, experience, brand value, and number of shooting days — not on who is “more important.”
In an ensemble cast, every actor matters to the story. That’s literally the whole point of an ensemble project.
As for this site, kisskh often uses tags and speculative listings, so it’s not always reliable for character information. Until the drama is officially released, nobody really knows exactly who’s playing whom or how the story is going to be laid out. But one thing that does seem clear is that this project is being structured as an ensemble cast.
Usually, adaptations like this fall into bad caricature-like overacting, but this cast balances exaggerated expressions with restraint, so nothing feels cringe or awkward on screen. Every actor fits their character naturally, and the importance of strong acting and direction is really evident here.
Please Korea, we need such actors on screen. Focus on casting actors for their skills and passion for acting, not just face value and popularity. Strong performances make dramas far more immersive and memorable.