Oh, so this have a name now, show hole? I used to say I'm in kdrama slump when I can't get into watching drama for months. It happened many times. The longest would be a year for me. The last slump would be in this January till March. The last drama I watched at that time is Chocolate. But sometimes this happen not because you're mesmerized by the last drama. There are unexplainable different reason. If it's due to drama, I had this show hole after finished watching Her Private Life (June 2019) and Manhole (September 2017), etc. I'm going to remember this term "show hole" not many people know.
I really hate war. It's painful to see so many people died just because of greed for power. This movie is no exception, Tang Dinasty invasion to Goguryeo vs the defense by Yang Man Chun creates this battle of Ansi which lasted 88 days so calling this The Great Battle due to the lasting effort is probably true. Nobody wants to be invaded so I understand the defense. Meanwhile, why Tang is not satisfied by his legitimacy and try to conquer more and more regions, sacrificing so many lives is something I can't understand, just like colonization attempt by many countries in the later years. Everything stems from human greed.
The so called great battle here made 20000 lives in Goguryeo are lost, while the Tang only lose 2000 soldiers. In that sense, calling this The Worst Battle is more appropriate. Although Ansi fortress is defended in this battle, the number of casualties are much larger for Goguryeo. This movie has some historical inaccuracy to glorify the Goguryeo win. They were initially defeated in the first two months, even the back up troops are captured. Then the third month, they claim the collapsed rampart which Tang builds, along with arriving Goguryeo reinforcements and the lack of supplies, finally forced Tang troops into a retreat.
The comment saying the emperor told Tang not to attack Goguryeo again is also incorrect. In fact, that greedy Tang emperor contracted disease, perhaps from the battle and later on died when he was preparing another invasion attempt to Goguryeo. So rather than fear from this battle, he was just defeated by death, which is Karma for him.
You did simplify all the timelines into one and I get all that. But what I don't get is that in 2017 - HYX went…
Yeah, we all have a certain time concept we like and since it's not the first time I see an infinity loop time concept, I don't get that element of surprise anymore. Their continuous loop even feels boring sometimes to me.
I'll put the correct time line order here to help a better understanding if anyone got confused (spoiler below)
You did simplify all the timelines into one and I get all that. But what I don't get is that
in 2017 - HYX went to Shanghai for her carrier, WQS taking the next flight to catch her even "after knowing that he'll die in the airplane crash if he's boarding in that flight, because his death will be the reason for the future 2019 HYX travelled back to the past & met the past LZW", the beginning of their love.
The fact that LZW as WQS already know that HYX travelled back in time and end up in CYR's body means that she's the first to travel back. But the memory she has of WQS is the one that LZW is in because he already fall for her before he met her. So the whole thing is tangled up. There's no beginning at all. That's what I dislike about: the concept of this drama which make the timeline like an infinity loop. This concept is similar to Arrival (2016) hollywood movie which I don't particularly like or hate. But at least, the movie answer the "why" question, which is something this drama don't. Instead it's just giving a several timelines running around the infinity circles.
I just put the timeline order for a better understanding in the above post if you're interested :)
My comment is at the top though. There's no option to see the comments in recent order. I think you can click share on your comment and paste the link here so I can click the link to go to your comment.
Well, the premise is fine but it's so damn confusing. So who travels back in time first and why the parallel dimension is interconnected. Watching this drama is like asking what comes first, egg or chicken. The timeline is overlapping like an infinity symbol. Well, although it's confusing, it has some moments of fun. So I guess it's okay. But the song keeps replaying that it bored me out sometimes. I know it's an important medium but I wonder should it be played that often. The acting is great. The plot is convoluting. The story is fun in some part but some part is also boring. So I give it rating 7.
I can’t believed the dictator get pardon by another president after murder 2000 citizen. Can’t believe people…
My point exactly. It's all about politic, power, and money. People's lives don't mean anything to them. The hard thing to do is to choose the right person because people who are good usually don't want to get into politics and will face a lot of obstacles to even get there. While we can only choose option A, B, or C between all the bad people who wear a mask pretending to be nice until they get elected.
Movie Recommendation? Do you prefer movie from true story? I don't usually go for serious movies much.
I just read more about the assassination of president Park Chun Hee. He was killed by Kim Jae-gyu, the director of the KCIA. While Chun Doo Hwan is not taking part in the assassination but just taking advantage of political unrest to seize power for himself. In short, both Park Chung Hee and Chun Doo Hwan are dictators in their times. There are so many power hungry politicians in South Korean history that I feel sick to my stomach just reading about it. I can't recommend it but two films are related to the sequence of the events: The President Last Bang is about the assassination and 1987: When The Day Comes is about the demonstration that leads to the fall of Chun Doo Hwan (the perperator in A Taxi Driver).
From what I read, after the assassination of the president by Kim Jae Gyu, the general at that time Chun Doo Hwan,…
I only knew this after watching this movie and browse about it. At that time, president was not selected through people's vote but from the cabinet. So he easily became a president (1981-1987) amidst his controversy. Only 1 person did not vote for him. I really wonder why bad people have a long life and good people die early. Making this world is a bad place to live.
OMG, finally found a way to watch this movie. My heart sank seeing people suffering and dying by their own country…
From what I read, after the assassination of the president by Kim Jae Gyu, the general at that time Chun Doo Hwan, was taking advantage of political unrest and was trying to force dictatorship through martial law. The people were doing demonstration in 1980 to remove the law. But to no avail. Around 2000 people lose their lives and that dictator ruled as president for 7 years (1981-1987). Long after that, in 1996, Chun Doo Hwan did face trial for his action, but was pardoned by the president during that time. During his 7 years reign, this dictator Chun Doo Hwan corrupted hundreds of Billions but the government only got some returned to these days. Very wicked. More bad news, he's still alive and free until now. He's a true villain.
The last slump would be in this January till March. The last drama I watched at that time is Chocolate. But sometimes this happen not because you're mesmerized by the last drama. There are unexplainable different reason.
If it's due to drama, I had this show hole after finished watching Her Private Life (June 2019) and Manhole (September 2017), etc. I'm going to remember this term "show hole" not many people know.
I think I'm combination of B & D
Reply 1988 shouldn't be in this list.
The so called great battle here made 20000 lives in Goguryeo are lost, while the Tang only lose 2000 soldiers. In that sense, calling this The Worst Battle is more appropriate. Although Ansi fortress is defended in this battle, the number of casualties are much larger for Goguryeo. This movie has some historical inaccuracy to glorify the Goguryeo win. They were initially defeated in the first two months, even the back up troops are captured. Then the third month, they claim the collapsed rampart which Tang builds, along with arriving Goguryeo reinforcements and the lack of supplies, finally forced Tang troops into a retreat.
The comment saying the emperor told Tang not to attack Goguryeo again is also incorrect. In fact, that greedy Tang emperor contracted disease, perhaps from the battle and later on died when he was preparing another invasion attempt to Goguryeo. So rather than fear from this battle, he was just defeated by death, which is Karma for him.
in 2017 - HYX went to Shanghai for her carrier, WQS taking the next flight to catch her even "after knowing that he'll die in the airplane crash if he's boarding in that flight, because his death will be the reason for the future 2019 HYX travelled back to the past & met the past LZW", the beginning of their love.
The fact that LZW as WQS already know that HYX travelled back in time and end up in CYR's body means that she's the first to travel back. But the memory she has of WQS is the one that LZW is in because he already fall for her before he met her. So the whole thing is tangled up. There's no beginning at all. That's what I dislike about: the concept of this drama which make the timeline like an infinity loop. This concept is similar to Arrival (2016) hollywood movie which I don't particularly like or hate. But at least, the movie answer the "why" question, which is something this drama don't. Instead it's just giving a several timelines running around the infinity circles.
At that time, president was not selected through people's vote but from the cabinet. So he easily became a president (1981-1987) amidst his controversy. Only 1 person did not vote for him. I really wonder why bad people have a long life and good people die early. Making this world is a bad place to live.