I don't hate the male lead, but I love the fox guy a lot better than the male lead. The actor who portrays the fox guy looks better too in costume compared to the male lead...
Ml historic is a mass murderer. His entire life. Their answer to everything is murder. In the end it wasn't just…
Then why were u & are u still getting all argumentative here ? 😆 It's just a drama... 😄 However, that doesn't mean the audiences can't choose to take sides of characters they admire in a story even if that character has shades of grey...😄
Did anyone notice? Kim Young Dae's expressive eyes and facial expressions as Do Ha as he gives Han Ri Ta a back hug at the herbalist's hut was so priceless to watch! I loved it! Kim Young Dae's expressions were poetic in that particular 'confession of his feelings' moment. I admire Kim Young Dae's acting style in this drama so far! ☺😍
I think she killed herself after she killed him,at least one scene in one of previous ep show her jumping of the…
Ha ha, your explanation kind of makes sense. I think the female lead started to lose it... Can't fully blame her. She lost so much... But I feel bad for the male lead too. I wish they had a happy ending in the past. 😅
Concordo em parte, mas acho que, mesmo que eles conseguissem chegar até Gaya, o Do Ha morreria. Afinal, ele matou…
His death that way would make more sense than dying at the hands of the female lead for whom he became reckless enough to break all principles. He didn't even get a warning. 😂The female lead deciding to kill him at this point makes no sense --- not after what they have been through together. This made his death scene almost comical to watch. 😄😅I felt bad for the male lead. I think the best way would've been for the female lead to directly tell Do Ha that they must do their best to escape without unnecessary killing of the innocents. Do Ha would've listened. Han Ri Ta should've been more practical.
And when it comes to what happens after they reached Gaya, most probably they would've lived incognito or maybe if discovered, Han Ri Ta could try to sway her people to not kill him. We as audience, are not yet shown why Gaya people rebelled in the first place, and as we all know, Do Ha was just a pawn, playing his role, doing his duty till the moment he chose to 'live' & rebel fir Han Ri Ta's sake. So, Gaya people can't point fingers at him and say he's completely in the wrong. It's not like Do Ha was the crown prince who startes the war etc. After all, he saved one of their most reputed general's daughter --- who also represents Gaya.
We are yet to know the cause of the rebellion, who's started the rebellion etc.
Despite all this, yes, the chances of their survival in Gaya is slim, but why give up without trying? Why take the life of someone who's doing his best to protect you (that too without any warning 😅)?
Ml historic is a mass murderer. His entire life. Their answer to everything is murder. In the end it wasn't just…
I never 'normalized serial killers'. Your conclusion is too extreme, and too sudden.
He was just trying to escape the royal forces in the only way he knew... It's not as if he was brought up to be kind. Your explanation of why Han Ri Ta chose to kill Do Ha makes perfect sense from that character's point of view at that particular point of time.
But, Han Ri Ta killing the villainous dad of the male lead, set off this whole killing spree. Either he needed to kill Han Ri Ta or he needed to silence everyone and escape with her to Gaya. He was doing all that in the heat of the moment... And when it comes to the matter of killing the old men sent there to catch him or scout him, Do Ha might have purposely said that most of them were 'old men'. He saw Han Ri Ta panicking and he wanted to reassure her. He mistook her 'panic & anxiety' as her safety concerns for him and her (which could've been true), but he didn't know there were other concerns such as guilt , confusion etc involved. So Do Ha said that most were 'old men' and he can take care of them. She needn't worry about dying or getting themselves killed. Perhaps Do Ha thought this was the 'abyss' Han Ri Ta was talking about. What I saw in that scene there, was, a communication problem for the female lead or maybe between both main leads. Do Ha or anyone in that situation can't possibly escape without killing at least some of the old men sent out there to take them down. He was just being logical as he planned their escape way out if their perilous scenario. Maybe Do Ha & Han Ri Ta would have even made it to Gaya or somewhere else if here was proper communication between them regarding both of heir concerns, worries, and if they worked as a team.
The best way would have been for Han Ri Ta to tip-off Do Ha regarding his father's plans instead of keeping him in the dark, and taking action on her own. Two heads are better than one. Had Han Ri Ta revealed all of her villainous father-in-law's plans, then Do Ha could've come up with his own counterplans to protect himself and his wife. Or maybe he and Han Ri Ta could've planned their escapade together without assassinating his villainous dad. Or they could've come up with a plan to assassinate his cruel dad together as a team. When one team member is kept in the dark, things can spiral out of control unless if course, the team member who acts by herself is sure of herself to not lose control over her mind etc or has a careful, proper plan. But open discussion with the other team member(in this case, Do Ha) is the best in such perilous situations. And even if Han Ri Ta did choose to act on her own like she did, she should've just knocked down or tied-up or in the worst case scenario, killed the maid who spotted her at the crime scene, and no one would know. Instead she just stood there passively, without knocking down the maid unconscious, thinking that the Do Ha would kill her. A smart character like her should've intuitively known by now that Do Ha can't possibly kill her. So, she should have taken calculated steps like knocking down or killing or silencing the maid to stem the aftereffects of the damage, and thus, protect herself as well the male lead . Then the others wouldn't have been able to find out the true culprit. They might point fingers, but with no proper evidence. There would've been enough time for the main leads to escape too. As for Do Ha, from his position, the more practical way would've been to just save Han Ri Ta, kill or threaten the few people at his manor who stood in the way of saving her, and then focus on their escape plan alone. Instead, Do Ha 'chose to go back' and focus on 'silencing each and everyone' at his manor. That was a real bad move from his part, and totally unnecessary. That was very inconsistent with his character, and totally foolish of him. It won't help much with their escape plan. It won't buy them time, and will attract unnecessary attention. There was potential for their past life love story to be written in a different way. The writers could've cut out the scenes where Do Ha 'decides to go back to his manor' to silence everyone.
As I said before, the writers wrote out the rest of the story in which they made the 'careful male lead' behave recklessly. But I don't think Do Ha was a serial killer. In ancient times, duels and sword fights were common. People used to get killed right and left because the society was less tolerant, less liberal, and even today society is almost like that. It's just the 'laws' keeping everyone in check. Also, today people don't display their evil side, hostility and discrimination openly like people of the past did.
But yes, the moment he thought of killing a child, Do Ha was on the verge of turning into someone like a serial killer. But he hadn't become serial killer yet. That's why he listened to Han Ri Ta 's urging to not kill the child. Do Ha hadn't completely lost his sense of rationality yet. I don't even blame the male lead here at this point. I just think the female lead should've seen the bigger plan (like the male lead did) , and worked with him as a team. They could've escaped or at least got the chance to experience more happy moments together...
And even if she wanted to kill Do Ha, she could've given him a heads-up😂. Just imagine from his point of view. It would be a shock to get an unexpected death blow from someone for whom you sacrificed your standard principles and everything --- that too, without any warning! 😆
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I love the fox guy a lot better than the male lead. The actor who portrays the fox guy looks better too in costume compared to the male lead...
I thought the drama will premiere today.
You mentioned all the details that didn't cross my mind!
It's just a drama... 😄
However, that doesn't mean the audiences can't choose to take sides of characters they admire in a story even if that character has shades of grey...😄
No point in continuing this conversation from my side either.
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Kim Young Dae's expressive eyes and facial expressions as Do Ha as he gives Han Ri Ta a back hug at the herbalist's hut was so priceless to watch!
I loved it! Kim Young Dae's expressions were poetic in that particular 'confession of his feelings' moment.
I admire Kim Young Dae's acting style in this drama so far! ☺😍
I think the female lead started to lose it... Can't fully blame her. She lost so much... But I feel bad for the male lead too.
I wish they had a happy ending in the past. 😅
I think the best way would've been for the female lead to directly tell Do Ha that they must do their best to escape without unnecessary killing of the innocents. Do Ha would've listened. Han Ri Ta should've been more practical.
And when it comes to what happens after they reached Gaya, most probably they would've lived incognito or maybe if discovered, Han Ri Ta could try to sway her people to not kill him. We as audience, are not yet shown why Gaya people rebelled in the first place, and as we all know, Do Ha was just a pawn, playing his role, doing his duty till the moment he chose to 'live' & rebel fir Han Ri Ta's sake. So, Gaya people can't point fingers at him and say he's completely in the wrong. It's not like Do Ha was the crown prince who startes the war etc. After all, he saved one of their most reputed general's daughter --- who also represents Gaya.
We are yet to know the cause of the rebellion, who's started the rebellion etc.
Despite all this, yes, the chances of their survival in Gaya is slim, but why give up without trying? Why take the life of someone who's doing his best to protect you (that too without any warning 😅)?
Your conclusion is too extreme, and too sudden.
He was just trying to escape the royal forces in the only way he knew... It's not as if he was brought up to be kind.
Your explanation of why Han Ri Ta chose to kill Do Ha makes perfect sense from that character's point of view at that particular point of time.
But, Han Ri Ta killing the villainous dad of the male lead, set off this whole killing spree. Either he needed to kill Han Ri Ta or he needed to silence everyone and escape with her to Gaya. He was doing all that in the heat of the moment...
And when it comes to the matter of killing the old men sent there to catch him or scout him, Do Ha might have purposely said that most of them were 'old men'. He saw Han Ri Ta panicking and he wanted to reassure her. He mistook her 'panic & anxiety' as her safety concerns for him and her (which could've been true), but he didn't know there were other concerns such as guilt , confusion etc involved.
So Do Ha said that most were 'old men' and he can take care of them. She needn't worry about dying or getting themselves killed. Perhaps Do Ha thought this was the 'abyss' Han Ri Ta was talking about.
What I saw in that scene there, was, a communication problem for the female lead or maybe between both main leads.
Do Ha or anyone in that situation can't possibly escape without killing at least some of the old men sent out there to take them down. He was just being logical as he planned their escape way out if their perilous scenario.
Maybe Do Ha & Han Ri Ta would have even made it to Gaya or somewhere else if here was proper communication between them regarding both of heir concerns, worries, and if they worked as a team.
The best way would have been for Han Ri Ta to tip-off Do Ha regarding his father's plans instead of keeping him in the dark, and taking action on her own. Two heads are better than one. Had Han Ri Ta revealed all of her villainous father-in-law's plans, then Do Ha could've come up with his own counterplans to protect himself and his wife. Or maybe he and Han Ri Ta could've planned their escapade together without assassinating his villainous dad. Or they could've come up with a plan to assassinate his cruel dad together as a team.
When one team member is kept in the dark, things can spiral out of control unless if course, the team member who acts by herself is sure of herself to not lose control over her mind etc or has a careful, proper plan. But open discussion with the other team member(in this case, Do Ha) is the best in such perilous situations.
And even if Han Ri Ta did choose to act on her own like she did, she should've just knocked down or tied-up or in the worst case scenario, killed the maid who spotted her at the crime scene, and no one would know. Instead she just stood there passively, without knocking down the maid unconscious, thinking that the Do Ha would kill her. A smart character like her should've intuitively known by now that Do Ha can't possibly kill her. So, she should have taken calculated steps like knocking down or killing or silencing the maid to stem the aftereffects of the damage, and thus, protect herself as well the male lead . Then the others wouldn't have been able to find out the true culprit. They might point fingers, but with no proper evidence. There would've been enough time for the main leads to escape too.
As for Do Ha, from his position, the more practical way would've been to just save Han Ri Ta, kill or threaten the few people at his manor who stood in the way of saving her, and then focus on their escape plan alone.
Instead, Do Ha 'chose to go back' and focus on 'silencing each and everyone' at his manor. That was a real bad move from his part, and totally unnecessary. That was very inconsistent with his character, and totally foolish of him. It won't help much with their escape plan. It won't buy them time, and will attract unnecessary attention.
There was potential for their past life love story to be written in a different way. The writers could've cut out the scenes where Do Ha 'decides to go back to his manor' to silence everyone.
As I said before, the writers wrote out the rest of the story in which they made the 'careful male lead' behave recklessly. But I don't think Do Ha was a serial killer. In ancient times, duels and sword fights were common. People used to get killed right and left because the society was less tolerant, less liberal, and even today society is almost like that. It's just the 'laws' keeping everyone in check. Also, today people don't display their evil side, hostility and discrimination openly like people of the past did.
But yes, the moment he thought of killing a child, Do Ha was on the verge of turning into someone like a serial killer. But he hadn't become serial killer yet. That's why he listened to Han Ri Ta 's urging to not kill the child.
Do Ha hadn't completely lost his sense of rationality yet. I don't even blame the male lead here at this point. I just think the female lead should've seen the bigger plan (like the male lead did) , and worked with him as a team. They could've escaped or at least got the chance to experience more happy moments together...
And even if she wanted to kill Do Ha, she could've given him a heads-up😂.
Just imagine from his point of view. It would be a shock to get an unexpected death blow from someone for whom you sacrificed your standard principles and everything --- that too, without any warning! 😆