Did we see the SAME Dosan from startup? cause the dosan i know is very rude and arrogant. Also, Dosan is DEFITENITLY…
I think you don't understand what people mean by luck, they are not talking about the technical aspects that he is succeeding in, they is talking about the business, and personal circumstances.
never ever talks rudely to people? he literally broke the name plate agressively at the office, hit HJP for telling…
"Broke the plate- that man was insulting Dalmi. He also paid visit to police station. Also kneeled in front of that jerk. But his reaction was not unnecessary. Can be agrresive. But definitely not rude. That man was making Dalmi and her startup a joke."
NDS did not have context on SDM story, in fact prior to this, he didn't know much of SDM's story. He did not know the circumstances of WIJ and him, nor what happened to WIJ. He basically acted on impulse while only knowing less than half the story. This is further paralleled with his fight with HJP, he doesn't know the whole truth, and yet he makes an emotionally driven decision. In the real world, this is called recklessness, in Start Up, it is considered passionate and romantic. Go figure.
"Hit the Hjp- well actually they both hit each other. And I don't think it was about truth at all. Both of them were very frustrated over the fact that Dalmi doesn't like them and seeing their love competition they lunged on each other."
No, I disagree. This all plays out due to NDS confronting HJP earlier in the episode. NDS wanting to direct the narrative once again. Let me explain further. There are three times that NDS chooses to speak for HJP.
1. NDS made up a lie for HJP of why HJP is helping them. 2. NDS made up a lie of HJP having dinner plans while at Halmoni's house. 3. NDS is stopping HJP from telling SDM and SST the truth, prior to the fight scene.
I don't know about you, but I don't appreciate someone setting the narrative for me, or lying for me. Especially when it's not for my sake, and especially when it's a rival. I don't like people putting words in my mouth that weren't there to begin with. Maybe you like people talking for you, and creating narratives for you, but I don't. This is where tension comes from. And NDS telling HJP to stop talking, when all he is doing is telling the truth was HJP's tipping point. BUT, HJP still chooses to be the bigger man, and walks away, it is only when he is punched, that he has had enough of it.
"Talked unprofessionally to alex- WTH!! that man conned them and broke their start up."
Regardless, you entered into a legally binding contract, that was your fault. NDS was just looking for someone to blame at that point, when HJP correctly pointed out, it was entirely their fault, in fact it is entirely NDS fault, but Yong San ended up taking all the blame for NDS mistake. Also, Alex was clearly offended, and he threatened to take them to the cleaners for the insult he faced. And, everything Alex did was legal, and he did give NDS warning that all he wanted was him, but NDS forced the issue, so Alex just did what corporate sharks do.
If this was any more realistic, Alex would have dropped the deal because why hire an engineer who is obviously emotionally mature. It's a red flag in any business to hire this type of employee.
"Getting rude with HJP- I agree. He was harsh with him. Just because he thought he won't get the girl doesn't mean he has to be rude with someone. But, tbh I don't think it's irrational. Also Han Ji pyoeng literally crushed his dreams initially telling them straight that their startup is never going to succeed. Rudeness goes both ways. doesn't it?"
HJP may have been harsh in the first 3 episodes, but when SST gets into Sandbox, he substantially changes his tune. SST and NDS on the other hand, dials up the disrespect factor, and it hits it's peak near Ep. 12. So anyone watching didn't feel HJP was harsh anymore, since all the times NDS talked about how harsh HJP was occurred in the first 3 episodes, and since then HJP has proven to be SST's biggest ally. So it's not surprising most people felt that SST and NDS were ungrateful.
Everyone had their flaws, NDS flaws were just harder to ignore or justify.
Ok, where are the cameras? Ashton Kutcher is here somewhere? :)))Sorry, I'm not a genius, nor very smart, so I…
That's fine, but you wrote, "NDS is like you and me", then begin to state his genius intellect and everything, so I just replied to that part, and I am not a genius, so I can't relate to how NDS was acting.
NDS is an only child, quite different from the rigors and difficulties second or middle children have. I know, because I am a second child myself.
What Asian child does not know the pressure from parents? But also same question, what Asian child thinks what NDS did is ok? And how he acted afterwards to his parents, who were just supporting him, is also not ok. Coming from an Asian child perspective.
I'm glad your able to relate though, it means you enjoyed the show far more than I did. :)
i dont agree. for a kdrama it was excellent. true it has a lot of cliché element. but i think it was good enough…
My rating is based on a lot of factors, one of them being it's competition. I looked at 2020 dramas and how I would rate them. I rated TKEM a 3, and I thought Start Up was a better drama, and so I rated it a 5.5. I have other dramas that I rated an 8 or a 7 that are far better than Start Up. Your opinion on what constitutes an 8-10, is in the end your opinion, based on your own personal rating system. I do not know what shows you have that deserve an 8-10, since you are a BRAND NEW account and you don't have ratings for other shows.
I am going to imagine you are just a person who newly discovered MDL, and is not one of the people making fake/new accounts to bump up the score of their favorite shows. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since you've taken the time to reply.
Now I have written why I think this show deserves the rating I gave, I suggest you give me a counter argument that is stronger than me "forgetting who the target market is" and "I lacking understanding of Kdrama". Both of these assessment not only speak volumes on your condescension of me, but also arrogantly props up your own status as an expert; something ridiculous on a something as subjective as Kdrama, where no one is an expert.
Why would I have wasted my time writing this? I explicitly stated I enjoyed writing this. And I highly doubt you actually read the whole thing, as you seemed to have read maybe only the first two paragraphs, then wrote your comment. Because your replies belies someone who did not read my whole review and simply want to paint a negative comment of me.
You bring up the notion of hype to quantify a good drama, but TKEM, which was FAR more hyped than Start Up, was universally panned, received poor viewership ratings, and received an apology from the writer herself. Start Up on the other hand, received apologies from the Main Leads, was poorly rated, received poor viewership ratings, and more than 70% of the people preferred the second lead over the main lead. I hope you'll understand that Hype is not equate into a good drama. They are not corollary.
Ahh once again, attacking my writing :) Ok, I admit that PHR is a better writer than me. Is that all you have? Ahh now, I should be a kdrama writer to give credence to my review? Well, using your logic, you admit I am a better writer than you, so I can just ignore your comment then :)))))
Thanks for stopping by :) Feel free to bring in more of your friends to attack my writing, i'll be ready :)
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NDS did not have context on SDM story, in fact prior to this, he didn't know much of SDM's story. He did not know the circumstances of WIJ and him, nor what happened to WIJ. He basically acted on impulse while only knowing less than half the story. This is further paralleled with his fight with HJP, he doesn't know the whole truth, and yet he makes an emotionally driven decision. In the real world, this is called recklessness, in Start Up, it is considered passionate and romantic. Go figure.
"Hit the Hjp- well actually they both hit each other. And I don't think it was about truth at all. Both of them were very frustrated over the fact that Dalmi doesn't like them and seeing their love competition they lunged on each other."
No, I disagree. This all plays out due to NDS confronting HJP earlier in the episode. NDS wanting to direct the narrative once again. Let me explain further. There are three times that NDS chooses to speak for HJP.
1. NDS made up a lie for HJP of why HJP is helping them.
2. NDS made up a lie of HJP having dinner plans while at Halmoni's house.
3. NDS is stopping HJP from telling SDM and SST the truth, prior to the fight scene.
I don't know about you, but I don't appreciate someone setting the narrative for me, or lying for me. Especially when it's not for my sake, and especially when it's a rival. I don't like people putting words in my mouth that weren't there to begin with. Maybe you like people talking for you, and creating narratives for you, but I don't. This is where tension comes from. And NDS telling HJP to stop talking, when all he is doing is telling the truth was HJP's tipping point. BUT, HJP still chooses to be the bigger man, and walks away, it is only when he is punched, that he has had enough of it.
"Talked unprofessionally to alex- WTH!! that man conned them and broke their start up."
Regardless, you entered into a legally binding contract, that was your fault. NDS was just looking for someone to blame at that point, when HJP correctly pointed out, it was entirely their fault, in fact it is entirely NDS fault, but Yong San ended up taking all the blame for NDS mistake. Also, Alex was clearly offended, and he threatened to take them to the cleaners for the insult he faced. And, everything Alex did was legal, and he did give NDS warning that all he wanted was him, but NDS forced the issue, so Alex just did what corporate sharks do.
If this was any more realistic, Alex would have dropped the deal because why hire an engineer who is obviously emotionally mature. It's a red flag in any business to hire this type of employee.
"Getting rude with HJP- I agree. He was harsh with him. Just because he thought he won't get the girl doesn't mean he has to be rude with someone. But, tbh I don't think it's irrational. Also Han Ji pyoeng literally crushed his dreams initially telling them straight that their startup is never going to succeed. Rudeness goes both ways. doesn't it?"
HJP may have been harsh in the first 3 episodes, but when SST gets into Sandbox, he substantially changes his tune. SST and NDS on the other hand, dials up the disrespect factor, and it hits it's peak near Ep. 12. So anyone watching didn't feel HJP was harsh anymore, since all the times NDS talked about how harsh HJP was occurred in the first 3 episodes, and since then HJP has proven to be SST's biggest ally. So it's not surprising most people felt that SST and NDS were ungrateful.
Everyone had their flaws, NDS flaws were just harder to ignore or justify.
Or are you talking to someone I have blocked LOL! sorry, I can't see certain post.
NDS is an only child, quite different from the rigors and difficulties second or middle children have. I know, because I am a second child myself.
What Asian child does not know the pressure from parents? But also same question, what Asian child thinks what NDS did is ok? And how he acted afterwards to his parents, who were just supporting him, is also not ok. Coming from an Asian child perspective.
I'm glad your able to relate though, it means you enjoyed the show far more than I did. :)
In fact that was the one thing you could count on with Cyrano.
I guess this will be the first time Cyrano does not end up with Roxanne. I guess, that is the plot twist...
Imagine watching an adaptation of Romeo and Juliet, where Juliet ends up with Count Paris instead of Romeo.
Ok, people need to stop making new accounts for the sake of rating this show all 10's or all 1's. They are going to get cleansed eventually you know.
Now I have the new accounts attacking my reviews, LOL!
I'm shooked...
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Sorry, I'm not a genius, nor very smart, so I can't relate to NDS.
I feel jealous that you were able to.
I'm guessing you fell for the wrong man :(
I am going to imagine you are just a person who newly discovered MDL, and is not one of the people making fake/new accounts to bump up the score of their favorite shows. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since you've taken the time to reply.
Now I have written why I think this show deserves the rating I gave, I suggest you give me a counter argument that is stronger than me "forgetting who the target market is" and "I lacking understanding of Kdrama". Both of these assessment not only speak volumes on your condescension of me, but also arrogantly props up your own status as an expert; something ridiculous on a something as subjective as Kdrama, where no one is an expert.
Why would I have wasted my time writing this? I explicitly stated I enjoyed writing this. And I highly doubt you actually read the whole thing, as you seemed to have read maybe only the first two paragraphs, then wrote your comment. Because your replies belies someone who did not read my whole review and simply want to paint a negative comment of me.
You bring up the notion of hype to quantify a good drama, but TKEM, which was FAR more hyped than Start Up, was universally panned, received poor viewership ratings, and received an apology from the writer herself. Start Up on the other hand, received apologies from the Main Leads, was poorly rated, received poor viewership ratings, and more than 70% of the people preferred the second lead over the main lead. I hope you'll understand that Hype is not equate into a good drama. They are not corollary.
Ahh once again, attacking my writing :) Ok, I admit that PHR is a better writer than me. Is that all you have? Ahh now, I should be a kdrama writer to give credence to my review? Well, using your logic, you admit I am a better writer than you, so I can just ignore your comment then :)))))
Thanks for stopping by :) Feel free to bring in more of your friends to attack my writing, i'll be ready :)
excellent review!