jesus christ, that's not love. he was obsessed with her and just wanted to possess her just like jin ah's husband.
Iâm not trying to excuse everything he did. What Jun Seo did was extreme, but that doesnât automatically make him a villain. His emotional collapse came from trauma, guilt, and desperation, not from a desire to control or hurt her. He wasnât calculating or manipulative the way someone like her husband was.
Crossing the line doesnât make someone evil; it makes them tragic, flawed, and desperate. Jun Seoâs love was destructive, yes, but it wasnât about entitlement, power, or abuse. It was about fear, guilt, and not knowing how else to protect someone he cared about.
No matter what, we can't change each others opinion so let's leave it as like that.
jesus christ, that's not love. he was obsessed with her and just wanted to possess her just like jin ah's husband.
He wasnât trying to erase her or control her life like her husband did. He was desperate, guilt-ridden, and trying to fix a situation he couldnât fully control. His actions came from fear and love, twisted by trauma, not from entitlement or deliberate cruelty.
About the documentary: he wasnât trying to paint himself as morally clean or excuse anyoneâs actions. He was exposing a complex truth, the chain of events that trapped her while showing how deeply flawed the system and the people around her were. Yes, it wasnât perfect, and yes, some things were messy, but that doesnât make him malicious.
Trying to kill himself and her was tragic and extreme, yes, but it came from emotional collapse, not calculated malice. It shows desperation, not premeditated control. Real love is complicated, and in his case, it was destructive because he didnât know how else to cope, but that doesnât make him equivalent to someone who systematically abuses or manipulates. I know cases like you mentioned and I don't support it as well. I'm just talking about his character throughout the whole show.
Calling him her last shackle is fair in hindsight, but itâs not the whole story. He was flawed, broken, and desperate, not evil. His tragedy comes from how deeply he cared, even if he went about it in a destructive way.
I get why the documentary upset you, but saying Jun Seo made all the people who harmed her look like victims is…
I see why the documentary upset you, but I think itâs being misunderstood. Jun Seo wasnât trying to punish her or make it seem like she wasnât the victim. He was trying to show the truth about her suffering and how society failed her.
Yes, it was messy and not perfect, but it wasnât about excusing the people who hurt her. He acted out of guilt and desperation, trying to fix something he couldnât control. It doesnât make him blameless, but it does show he wasnât being cruel or selfish on purpose. The tragedy is that his emotional collapse caused unintended consequences.
Just stating my opinion and you are entitled to your own as well.
Are you replying to someone or youâre stating an opinion? And are you implying her emotions and motivation are…
Iâm mostly replying to their points, but also sharing my opinion. Iâm not saying her emotions or motivations are less than his, theyâre just different. Ji Hyeokâs actions are driven by family protection, while her feelings come purely from love, even for someone who might not fully deserve it. Both are valid and strong motivations, just coming from very different places.
jesus christ, that's not love. he was obsessed with her and just wanted to possess her just like jin ah's husband.
Yes, what he did was wrong. Yes, it was dangerous. But that doesnât mean his mindset or motives were the same.
He wasnât trying to possess her the way her husband did. Her husband abused her by drugging her, making her hallucinate to control her. Jun Seo was emotionally drowning, jealous, confused, not scheming to trap her. That doesnât excuse what he did, but it does separate desperation from calculated cruelty.
About the novel and the documentary: he didnât make money off her trauma. The story shows he used those things to expose the truth, not to protect the people who hurt her. The documentary wasnât about making them innocent, it was about showing the cause of her pain.
And no, he wasnât âokay with killing her.â He broke down to a point where he couldnât see a life beyond losing her. That kind of emotional collapse is tragic and dangerous, but itâs not the same as a man who coldly decides his partner must die and keep himself alive. He literally told her âlets go to hell togetherâ He wasn't being selfish. Itâs a fatal mix of guilt, trauma, and obsession, not dominance. His logic is âif I can't stop her from ruining lives then we will die togetherâ.
Youâre describing him as if he spent the whole drama trying to ruin her life on purpose. But thatâs not what happened. He sabotaged because he was terrified of losing the one person he thought gave him a meaning. It's not the same kind of evil as her husband.
What he did was tragic, desperate, and wrong, but painting him as a deliberate monster is wrong.
I think the part that made me most angry was the FCKING DOCUMENTARY. Junseo literally made everyone who legit…
I get why the documentary upset you, but saying Jun Seo made all the people who harmed her look like victims is taking it too far. That wasnât the point of the documentary at all. He wasnât trying to erase what they did, he was trying to explain why she was trapped in that painful life.
He wasnât justifying them. He was showing the chain of events that shaped her suffering so the world would understand what she endured. However, audience didn't take that as understanding her.. They just hated the fact that she used people around her and that she killed her own dad. Thatâs not the same as defending them.
And saying heâs as bad as Moon Do Hyukâ ignores the entire difference in their motives. Moon acted out of cruelty and power. Jun Seo acted out of guilt, desperation, and a twisted attempt to protect her after everything fell apart. Both wrong, but not equal.
Her having options now doesnât mean his death was some perfect, clean ending. It just means sheâs finally free because the person who loved her too intensely and wrongly is gone. That doesnât make him the same as someone who intentionally destroyed her life.
Calling it a âvery good endingâ is your take, but itâs not fair to rewrite Jun Seo as a monster when the story showed he was broken, not evil.
Jun seo and moon do hyunk are same but the difference is one have some morals and another one is psychopath
Theyâre really not the same. Jun Seo and Moon Do Hyuk act from completely different places. Jun Seoâs actions come from emotional desperation and confusion, not from the cold, calculated cruelty Do Hyuk shows.
Do Hyuk does things because he wants control and power. Jun Seo reacts because heâs overwhelmed by his feelings and trauma. Putting them in the same category ignores the fact that one acts with intention to harm, while the other is acting out of fear and emotional damage.
jesus christ, that's not love. he was obsessed with her and just wanted to possess her just like jin ah's husband.
Calling it the same as Jin Ahâs husband is illogical. Obsession is when someone controls you for their own satisfaction. Thatâs not whatâs happening here. His feelings werenât about possession, he wasnât trying to lock her up or destroy her life. He was desperate, emotional, and confused, but he never treated her like an object the way Jin Ahâs husband did. Comparing the two is unfair and ignores the completely different intentions and circumstances behind his actions. Her husband doesn't care if she gets hurt, drugged her, making her more insane. At least exposing her will make her hide from the world and not touch any more innocents.
ML isnât forcing her at all. He is aware that thereâs no other way to protect his mother and achieve whatâs…
Youâre acting like MLâs mom has to be dying for his situation to matter. Even if she isnât in immediate danger, her future depends on ML to protect her from the controlling of the dad. Look at ML mom. She is not dying but her mental health is not stable because of the dad. Imagine the amount of abusing going on (mentally). ML isnât choosing this because he wants to. He has no other choice if he wants to protect his mom long-term.
And heâs not ignoring 2FL. He literally canât put her first right now because his father is threatening everything he cares about. Itâs not that he doesnât care, itâs that the situation makes it impossible for him to act on his feelings.
About the chaebol business: The dad clearly doesnât trust her to run things permanently. ML knows that if he says no to the marriage, he canât help his mom to divorce him. Pretending he can just refuse and walk away isnât realistic.
So no, ML isnât being illogical or a bad man. Heâs actually the only one taking responsibility and making sacrifices. Heâs giving up his own happiness for the sake of his loved ones.
In the beginning, SFL was the one who wanted to marry MLâbut he refused for very clear reasons: 1. He didnât love her. 2. He only saw her as an immature friend. 3. He didnât have even the slightest romantic interest in her.
Both of them were honestly too immature back then to understand what real love even is.
But now the situation is completely different.
SFL no longer wants the marriage because sheâs interested in someone else. Meanwhile, ML isnât choosing marriage out of desire, heâs doing it because heâs under heavy pressure from his father and itâs the only way to secure what he needs for his mother.
So itâs not about ML âforcingâ anything. Itâs about him sacrificing his own happiness to protect his mom, while SFLâs change of heart is driven by her own feelings for another man.
ML forcing 2FL to marry him and not bothering to hear her thoughts about it...and 2ML is the scum? I don't really…
ML isnât forcing her at all. He is aware that thereâs no other way to protect his mother and achieve whatâs needed. Even if 2FL resists, her parents would never allow it. Heâs not ignoring her feelings; heâs making the hard choices that the situation demands, showing how far heâs willing to go for family.
Why blame Jun Seo for trying to kill her? The truth is, he doesnât even value his own life, his obsession is only with her. Heâs willing to go to any lengths, even to the very end⊠even into hell, just to have her for himself. Can we really fault someone so consumed by love?
Crossing the line doesnât make someone evil; it makes them tragic, flawed, and desperate. Jun Seoâs love was destructive, yes, but it wasnât about entitlement, power, or abuse. It was about fear, guilt, and not knowing how else to protect someone he cared about.
No matter what, we can't change each others opinion so let's leave it as like that.
About the documentary: he wasnât trying to paint himself as morally clean or excuse anyoneâs actions. He was exposing a complex truth, the chain of events that trapped her while showing how deeply flawed the system and the people around her were. Yes, it wasnât perfect, and yes, some things were messy, but that doesnât make him malicious.
Trying to kill himself and her was tragic and extreme, yes, but it came from emotional collapse, not calculated malice. It shows desperation, not premeditated control. Real love is complicated, and in his case, it was destructive because he didnât know how else to cope, but that doesnât make him equivalent to someone who systematically abuses or manipulates. I know cases like you mentioned and I don't support it as well. I'm just talking about his character throughout the whole show.
Calling him her last shackle is fair in hindsight, but itâs not the whole story. He was flawed, broken, and desperate, not evil. His tragedy comes from how deeply he cared, even if he went about it in a destructive way.
Yes, it was messy and not perfect, but it wasnât about excusing the people who hurt her. He acted out of guilt and desperation, trying to fix something he couldnât control. It doesnât make him blameless, but it does show he wasnât being cruel or selfish on purpose. The tragedy is that his emotional collapse caused unintended consequences.
Just stating my opinion and you are entitled to your own as well.
He wasnât trying to possess her the way her husband did. Her husband abused her by drugging her, making her hallucinate to control her. Jun Seo was emotionally drowning, jealous, confused, not scheming to trap her. That doesnât excuse what he did, but it does separate desperation from calculated cruelty.
About the novel and the documentary: he didnât make money off her trauma. The story shows he used those things to expose the truth, not to protect the people who hurt her. The documentary wasnât about making them innocent, it was about showing the cause of her pain.
And no, he wasnât âokay with killing her.â He broke down to a point where he couldnât see a life beyond losing her. That kind of emotional collapse is tragic and dangerous, but itâs not the same as a man who coldly decides his partner must die and keep himself alive. He literally told her âlets go to hell togetherâ He wasn't being selfish. Itâs a fatal mix of guilt, trauma, and obsession, not dominance. His logic is âif I can't stop her from ruining lives then we will die togetherâ.
Youâre describing him as if he spent the whole drama trying to ruin her life on purpose. But thatâs not what happened. He sabotaged because he was terrified of losing the one person he thought gave him a meaning. It's not the same kind of evil as her husband.
What he did was tragic, desperate, and wrong, but painting him as a deliberate monster is wrong.
He wasnât justifying them. He was showing the chain of events that shaped her suffering so the world would understand what she endured. However, audience didn't take that as understanding her.. They just hated the fact that she used people around her and that she killed her own dad. Thatâs not the same as defending them.
And saying heâs as bad as Moon Do Hyukâ ignores the entire difference in their motives. Moon acted out of cruelty and power. Jun Seo acted out of guilt, desperation, and a twisted attempt to protect her after everything fell apart. Both wrong, but not equal.
Her having options now doesnât mean his death was some perfect, clean ending. It just means sheâs finally free because the person who loved her too intensely and wrongly is gone. That doesnât make him the same as someone who intentionally destroyed her life.
Calling it a âvery good endingâ is your take, but itâs not fair to rewrite Jun Seo as a monster when the story showed he was broken, not evil.
Do Hyuk does things because he wants control and power. Jun Seo reacts because heâs overwhelmed by his feelings and trauma. Putting them in the same category ignores the fact that one acts with intention to harm, while the other is acting out of fear and emotional damage.
And heâs not ignoring 2FL. He literally canât put her first right now because his father is threatening everything he cares about. Itâs not that he doesnât care, itâs that the situation makes it impossible for him to act on his feelings.
About the chaebol business: The dad clearly doesnât trust her to run things permanently. ML knows that if he says no to the marriage, he canât help his mom to divorce him. Pretending he can just refuse and walk away isnât realistic.
So no, ML isnât being illogical or a bad man. Heâs actually the only one taking responsibility and making sacrifices. Heâs giving up his own happiness for the sake of his loved ones.
1. He didnât love her.
2. He only saw her as an immature friend.
3. He didnât have even the slightest romantic interest in her.
Both of them were honestly too immature back then to understand what real love even is.
But now the situation is completely different.
SFL no longer wants the marriage because sheâs interested in someone else. Meanwhile, ML isnât choosing marriage out of desire, heâs doing it because heâs under heavy pressure from his father and itâs the only way to secure what he needs for his mother.
So itâs not about ML âforcingâ anything. Itâs about him sacrificing his own happiness to protect his mom, while SFLâs change of heart is driven by her own feelings for another man.