I'm curious. I don't see how HE is the toxic one, enlighten me.
SDM asked HP (after the dismissal) why it happened like that. HJP gave the answer and blamed it (which was clearly her fault for not being careful with the contract), then got a beating from the NDS. The one who fired SDM did not get hit?
yoooo i totally agree with the whole what's the point of the punching scene and the whole "the writers really…
You should try to watch that scene again by you. Which words the sneers at. I tried to repeat the scene again and again when the NDS and HJP talked together. I couldn't find it.
yoooo i totally agree with the whole what's the point of the punching scene and the whole "the writers really…
Sneer? it looks like you are lacking in detail watching it. HJP when confessing his feelings even defended NDS.
If you forget I rewrite what HJP said: "NDS and I are not that close. To be honest I don't really like him. But I don't want you to get the wrong idea. He did't do everything. because I asked him to. Going to the networking party, giving you his business card, and asking you to be CEO at sandbox. He did all that because he wanted to. "
which part the sneers at?
Let me ask you. Do you prefer people who talk sweetly in front of you but talk about your badness to other people, or people who talk honestly about your badness in front of you, but praise you to other people behind your back?
I just watched something else because I felt I was getting too obsessed and frustrated over this drama and then…
Yes, in my opinion 18 again is the best drama at the end of 2020 that I have watched (at least so far). Even though it could have been shifted by "Start Up" if the storyline could be maintained properly. But it seems too late.
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I watched it from start to end and I am still pissed off how it ended... Hope Start-up does not end in such a…
lol. Of all the dramas that have just finished, 18 again seems very worthy of being called the best drama of the end of 2020. Even his rating on MDL is increasing now compared to after the last episode aired
well, not bad for reading, for those who want to get to know the characters in this drama. But unfortunately only character recognition.
For many people who criticize this drama is not criticizing the characters (there are some who criticize the characters), but on the story plot that is not well structured since episode 9, which finally looks forced.
If the plot is as good as episodes 1-7, I'm sure there won't be a war between who deserves to be ML. This is evident from the kissing scene on the rooftop that HJP supporters don't mind. Until episode 7 they accepted that HJP was only the 2nd lead. And the rating is still good.
But then since episode 9 aired, criticism began to appear and a rating downgrade. We don't need to discuss who has more experience watching this writer's Drama before. Or how the scriptwriter's writing style. But we can see that something has gone wrong since episode 9
sensible viewer Nov 26 2020 6:57 am So finally watched episode 12 aaaanndddddd...... i can't believe i could feel so pissed off.
Firstly, i will mention less irritating things. So it was clear that since ep 11 injae knew her sister has been conned when they got 3m dollar offer but didnt warn. I dont mind that, dalmi deserves its.
Saha since the beginbing uptil now had a rude and not fully-involved attitude towards team. In the beginning when she joins team she says i am better than rest and this team is below me so it is just a temporary stop for me , so i dont get all her sad faces and insomnia. Saha has a great car and a fancy bedroom i wonder what was her backstory to join sandbox when she has luxuries still available at her disposal even if she says she hates law profession.
Saha being a professional lawyer telling dosan in elevator that mr han warning against contract was perhaps to break you and dalmi apart was another genius milestone reached by drama. A liscenced lawyer interpreting a seasoned investors inhibitions about an "acquisition" contract like this. Claps for saha. Whats her iq?
I reiterate i dont get how such acquisition fiasco could happen at sandbox also when park dong chan already knew about acquisition and that means yoon director knew too.
Acquisition can not happen in two days time, their technology requires patenting i dont even get what and how things were shown by writer.
Dalmi is so clever she in instant sitting opposite alex can tell that 'oh so you didnt ask about our service and vision at demo cause this is what you wanted'. Wise lady where was your same sherlocks thinking capability when were given acquisition offer?
Why yongsan was crying? When you recieved acquisitiin offer you knew your company will be dissolved. So now two team members are fired and your app is halted, so.. ? What skies have fallen on your head that you are crying and still playing victim? The whole crying and wailing by two sans was beyond as their jobs were secured. Dosan crying i understand as he was born to cry and wail even if he sits on a thumb tack.
Alex's acting alongside halmoni and kim seon ho's is very awesome. Though i really wonder why Alex always wears his pants waist so high. I have no problem with that though.
3m dollar was for solely acquirung tech or also included next three years salary for three engineers ?
Now to the most worst part of drama ^#%#¥$&%&%&$¥$¥$* was dosan psychopath beating up poor mentor guy. So nothing he said warranted dosan screaming at him to stop at the office. Then punching and super violent behavior...?i would not mind if someone from the drama characters actually sends out an assassin or hitman to take out dosan, he is such a disgusting, vile piece of existence. I am speechless. Seriously scumbags like dosan only deserve to be handed over to cops and have them permanently blacklisted from the industry. What he did to hjp trust me in real world he would have been done for good and i wish hjp had taken him to cops and finished the entitled dirtbags career once for all. After all fighting drama he is so shameless to further ask him for help for noongil as if he.... God i am so pissed off, its not that hjp got beaten up, it is because dosan treated another human being like garbage. And then not to mention he is a mentor, did help immensely and deserves respect.
What was so concerning was writer romanticized the beating scene by showing that hjp throws the last punch and then amicably throws advice at dosan as if it is okay , it is just a duel between to grown up hot blooded(?? Is it what i should call it) men. Whilst its NOT THAT. I mean again glorifying a wrong. Thats hugely misguiding the youth.
At this point one literally questions,'why is dosan so angry at hjp'? What exactly hjp did to him that he acts so violent? Why so much anger? This is a very wrong represenration of scenario dosan needs to be given over to police and sent on trial and blacklisted. I am done with this POS male lead.
Yongsan still crying about revenge to prove hjp wrong when his actual company has been dissolved, lmao. He is an epitome of "i will cut the branch i am sitting on for my so called revenge even if the enemy walks away unscathed".
Finally first time i felt sad for hjp when he hugged grandma ,it was as if he was never hugged by a loved pne before which was true though i dont get why he didnt marry even at the age of 32-33. It was also very frustrating to see writers turning hjp character into a punchbag that anyone can start blaming even their minor itches on.
It was frustrating to see writers still making hjp hang on there for dalmi just to suffer another heartache upon violent scumbags return- i hate to use that characters name amymore.
When dosan was sitting in french restaurant and dalmi told him to go to us , his aggressive expressions looked like he will start beating up dalmi and even though he did not but he violently grabbed his backpack and left again making viewer realize that his violent tendencies are even extended out to his love interest too.
I dont know how this scumbag dosan is back into sandbox as deen in preview as he is wearing sandbox employee lanyard. But what a downer.
All irritating characters from penthouse combined seem angels before violent dosan. I dont even hate dan tae anymore.
Oh and more ironic after beating up mentor and begging him for help , he never once thanks him for help. All three sans are ungrateful bunch. Oh and lmao @ writers trying to portray him as some rich bigshot upon return. Lmao
Oh and not to mention his incessant crying, no wait, actually wailing makes you roll your eyes and yawn. Dosan the character could actually work for diapers ads as even infants dont cry that much.
Writers tried hard to shove this dosan guy and his love story down our throats and as a result the story came out as a diahorrea. Either writers hate dosan that they wrote him so bad or their writing backfired where nam dosan comes off as violent useless garbage and in ep 12 they end up making hjp so vulnerable that he wins everyones sympathy.
In ep 12 Dalmi literally cried like she was breaking up with her boyfriend of 15 yrs ( it is likely she even continues…
It's no longer about who ends up with whom. But a messy storyline since episode 9 (at least that's what I saw). In episode 7, it is enough to prove who ML and FL are(rooftop scene). But then the plot gets screwed up again in a way that doesn't make sense.
I'm in the 5th episode and I was thinking... Who is the male lead?
Lol. say this to them, this drama genre: Business, Comedy, Romance, Youth, Drama. Written in the caption, and there is no fantasy description. Moreover, with a business theme. Some of the attitudes displayed by SST are completely contrary to what should be done in the business world, but they can be successful (winning the competition, being hired by international companies, the motto of sailing without a map). And this can be dangerous for people (especially young people) who are just learning to build a business. This is also one of the reasons why this drama is getting a lot of criticism.
The one who fired SDM did not get hit?
But you attack the person who writes comments here?
Which is more cruel, telling the truth or expelling SDM(NDS girl) from SST?
If you forget I rewrite what HJP said:
"NDS and I are not that close. To be honest I don't really like him. But I don't want you to get the wrong idea. He did't do everything. because I asked him to. Going to the networking party, giving you his business card, and asking you to be CEO at sandbox. He did all that because he wanted to. "
which part the sneers at?
Let me ask you. Do you prefer people who talk sweetly in front of you but talk about your badness to other people, or people who talk honestly about your badness in front of you, but praise you to other people behind your back?
Even though it could have been shifted by "Start Up" if the storyline could be maintained properly. But it seems too late.
Of all the dramas that have just finished, 18 again seems very worthy of being called the best drama of the end of 2020.
Even his rating on MDL is increasing now compared to after the last episode aired
But unfortunately only character recognition.
For many people who criticize this drama is not criticizing the characters (there are some who criticize the characters), but on the story plot that is not well structured since episode 9, which finally looks forced.
If the plot is as good as episodes 1-7, I'm sure there won't be a war between who deserves to be ML. This is evident from the kissing scene on the rooftop that HJP supporters don't mind.
Until episode 7 they accepted that HJP was only the 2nd lead. And the rating is still good.
But then since episode 9 aired, criticism began to appear and a rating downgrade. We don't need to discuss who has more experience watching this writer's Drama before. Or how the scriptwriter's writing style. But we can see that something has gone wrong since episode 9
sensible viewer
Nov 26 2020 6:57 am
So finally watched episode 12 aaaanndddddd...... i can't believe i could feel so pissed off.
Firstly, i will mention less irritating things. So it was clear that since ep 11 injae knew her sister has been conned when they got 3m dollar offer but didnt warn. I dont mind that, dalmi deserves its.
Saha since the beginbing uptil now had a rude and not fully-involved attitude towards team. In the beginning when she joins team she says i am better than rest and this team is below me so it is just a temporary stop for me , so i dont get all her sad faces and insomnia. Saha has a great car and a fancy bedroom i wonder what was her backstory to join sandbox when she has luxuries still available at her disposal even if she says she hates law profession.
Saha being a professional lawyer telling dosan in elevator that mr han warning against contract was perhaps to break you and dalmi apart was another genius milestone reached by drama. A liscenced lawyer interpreting a seasoned investors inhibitions about an "acquisition" contract like this. Claps for saha. Whats her iq?
I reiterate i dont get how such acquisition fiasco could happen at sandbox also when park dong chan already knew about acquisition and that means yoon director knew too.
Acquisition can not happen in two days time, their technology requires patenting i dont even get what and how things were shown by writer.
Dalmi is so clever she in instant sitting opposite alex can tell that 'oh so you didnt ask about our service and vision at demo cause this is what you wanted'. Wise lady where was your same sherlocks thinking capability when were given acquisition offer?
Why yongsan was crying? When you recieved acquisitiin offer you knew your company will be dissolved. So now two team members are fired and your app is halted, so.. ? What skies have fallen on your head that you are crying and still playing victim? The whole crying and wailing by two sans was beyond as their jobs were secured. Dosan crying i understand as he was born to cry and wail even if he sits on a thumb tack.
Alex's acting alongside halmoni and kim seon ho's is very awesome. Though i really wonder why Alex always wears his pants waist so high. I have no problem with that though.
3m dollar was for solely acquirung tech or also included next three years salary for three engineers ?
Now to the most worst part of drama ^#%#¥$&%&%&$¥$¥$* was dosan psychopath beating up poor mentor guy. So nothing he said warranted dosan screaming at him to stop at the office. Then punching and super violent behavior...?i would not mind if someone from the drama characters actually sends out an assassin or hitman to take out dosan, he is such a disgusting, vile piece of existence. I am speechless. Seriously scumbags like dosan only deserve to be handed over to cops and have them permanently blacklisted from the industry. What he did to hjp trust me in real world he would have been done for good and i wish hjp had taken him to cops and finished the entitled dirtbags career once for all. After all fighting drama he is so shameless to further ask him for help for noongil as if he.... God i am so pissed off, its not that hjp got beaten up, it is because dosan treated another human being like garbage. And then not to mention he is a mentor, did help immensely and deserves respect.
What was so concerning was writer romanticized the beating scene by showing that hjp throws the last punch and then amicably throws advice at dosan as if it is okay , it is just a duel between to grown up hot blooded(?? Is it what i should call it) men. Whilst its NOT THAT. I mean again glorifying a wrong. Thats hugely misguiding the youth.
At this point one literally questions,'why is dosan so angry at hjp'? What exactly hjp did to him that he acts so violent? Why so much anger? This is a very wrong represenration of scenario dosan needs to be given over to police and sent on trial and blacklisted. I am done with this POS male lead.
Yongsan still crying about revenge to prove hjp wrong when his actual company has been dissolved, lmao. He is an epitome of "i will cut the branch i am sitting on for my so called revenge even if the enemy walks away unscathed".
Finally first time i felt sad for hjp when he hugged grandma ,it was as if he was never hugged by a loved pne before which was true though i dont get why he didnt marry even at the age of 32-33. It was also very frustrating to see writers turning hjp character into a punchbag that anyone can start blaming even their minor itches on.
It was frustrating to see writers still making hjp hang on there for dalmi just to suffer another heartache upon violent scumbags return- i hate to use that characters name amymore.
When dosan was sitting in french restaurant and dalmi told him to go to us , his aggressive expressions looked like he will start beating up dalmi and even though he did not but he violently grabbed his backpack and left again making viewer realize that his violent tendencies are even extended out to his love interest too.
I dont know how this scumbag dosan is back into sandbox as deen in preview as he is wearing sandbox employee lanyard. But what a downer.
All irritating characters from penthouse combined seem angels before violent dosan. I dont even hate dan tae anymore.
Oh and more ironic after beating up mentor and begging him for help , he never once thanks him for help. All three sans are ungrateful bunch. Oh and lmao @ writers trying to portray him as some rich bigshot upon return. Lmao
Oh and not to mention his incessant crying, no wait, actually wailing makes you roll your eyes and yawn. Dosan the character could actually work for diapers ads as even infants dont cry that much.
Writers tried hard to shove this dosan guy and his love story down our throats and as a result the story came out as a diahorrea. Either writers hate dosan that they wrote him so bad or their writing backfired where nam dosan comes off as violent useless garbage and in ep 12 they end up making hjp so vulnerable that he wins everyones sympathy.
What do you think?
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HJP effect or bad storyline effect???
Written in the caption, and there is no fantasy description. Moreover, with a business theme. Some of the attitudes displayed by SST are completely contrary to what should be done in the business world, but they can be successful (winning the competition, being hired by international companies, the motto of sailing without a map).
And this can be dangerous for people (especially young people) who are just learning to build a business.
This is also one of the reasons why this drama is getting a lot of criticism.