So only eight episodes were aired. I think they were hoping to get around the censorship by airing it quietly,…
There IS a suing by a Korean actress whom they used an image of without her consent so w/e happens with the law in China, it can't be released until they at least resolve that issue. Will there be other problems after that? Who knows...
Really no hope? :( what about all those money they spent on the show like cant they just release it internationally…
I wouldn't expect any international release since the problem that got it cancelled (for now at least) is not with the Chinese gov, it's a suing by a Korean actress whom they used a picture of without her consent...
They are actually having a copyright issue and a law dispute is ongoing. Because the drama was stopped on the…
Wait, I didn't hear the specific about teacher/apprentice, does it include a question of generation? Coz The Longest Promise has that kind of relationship, but both characters are of the same generation (something like 2 years difference iirc), and it was allowed to air. I know the general story of Immortality but didn't read it and don't know enough, while in the case of Winner is King, they are indeed from a different generation.
They are actually having a copyright issue and a law dispute is ongoing. Because the drama was stopped on the…
If you mean the law regarding BL, yes lots of ppl don't understand it, unfortunately catering to rumors and taking "what everyone says" on the internet as the actual truth! Easy to start wildfire like that... Thank you for your level-headedness!
I'm most curious about whether Pei Shu's father is alive (not in the vegetative state) or not and did his mother…
I'll just add to this excellent synopsis that his mother did all that on purpose when he was nearly 14 for 2 main reasons: he was about to be legally (14 in China) responsible for his acts, and his father was not only disciplining her IN FRONT of him, but rather BY him, thus could soon become an "accomplice" and she didn't want that for him. The 2nd reason was precisely to traumatize him as a protection of sort against becoming the sadist his father was trying to make out of him. And that is indeed what happened, he stayed in a PTSD state until Luo WenZhou slowly healed him by making fall in love and care again for the world and life.
I really love the series too, I just sometimes sit in a corner and cry about what it COULD'VE been if the production…
Ty! As for my knowledge, well, when I like something, I tend to dive deep into it, try to find every detail available and discuss with other ppl passionnate about it too! So I didn't watch that many c-drama yet (nor plan to lol), didn't read that many c-novels either, but those I liked, I watched/read multiple times and looked beyond the obvious to understand them better! (Sorry for delay in replying, I tend to come here on a very irregular basis!)
Thank you so much for reading and keeping an open mind! I love the characters of the untamed and while I am more…
lol I understand your feeling! Let's say that I see it as another version, not really the same story! It's even more different than The Untamed imo, though at least WWX is as strong and "dangerous" as in the novel, so it kinda reconciles me with it. Looking forward to discover how they'll finish it...
I really love the series too, I just sometimes sit in a corner and cry about what it COULD'VE been if the production…
Yah, I've analyzed a lot of those changes with other fans as well as on my own. I think they did quite an amazing job considering the restrictions censorship imposes on dramas.
For instance, they're not supposed to have reincarnation, nor ghosts, as everything related to spirits are banned, so they adapted them as "puppets", or made WWX in a kind of limbo for those 16 years rather than truly dead (in the secret chamber, JGY explains that the manuscript was talking of a technic to bring back someone on the brink of death...🙄) I was told it's because some years ago, there were waves of suicides in the hope of a better life in reincarnation, so that topic is now forbidden.
I don't know how much it has to do with censorship, but the use of music at both Qiongqi Path & Buyetian city to "replace" the manipulation of WWX's emotions by JGY is interesting, since they wanted to make him less dangerous, and JGY less grey. Moral & ethic in dramas need to be clearer than in novels as they consider that youngsters may be more influenced by visual medium than written ones. As a mother, I personnaly used the "greyness" of the novel as a very interesting topic of discussion with my daughter, but I guess it's not every parents that might want or feel ablt to tackle such matters...
Yes, the show I think could’ve been a lot tighter in terms of the production itself, but there are probably…
hum, I've seen BTS all over the place, on Twitter & YT mainly, but I think there are some directly on WeTV too. I recall 1 in particular, when WWX was captured by the Wen after he gave his core, they had also arrested Wen Qing, and were leveraging their feelings to threatened them. I didn't understand everything as the translation was not complete and the shooting was interupted to discuss. There's another one in the cave after Qiongqi path where he's so desperate, it was definitely a love parting, which made me wonder if it's that scene that had the leaked kiss that led to the ire of MDZS ire and the threat of boycott. Anyway, here is 1 compilation, there seem to be lot more on that channel though I didn't watch them all. I saw many just by navigating from one to another and don't seem to be able to find them back right away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7UFFmg-dLo&list=PLR0YaoROwpocw1f9241HmKgBbvbOMg0mp&index=56
Yes, the show I think could’ve been a lot tighter in terms of the production itself, but there are probably…
Among the few constrains I can mention, well the overall budget is already something: 20M yuan for those 50 ep, which is around 3M US$... then a huge fire in their warehouse that destroy all their costumes and props and even killed 2 workers.
Also, a change in the storyline more than halfway through shooting coz the novel's fandom discovered that they had changed the original love story with Lan WangJi to a straight romance with Wen Qing. So they cut lots of her scenes (as we can see in the newly released BTS), and added more for LWJ, even though as an original support character he was quite busy with other commitments, so they used a lot of body doubles.
Yet, c-drama usually have to respect their schedule to the day since more often than not, as soon as it's done another drama is taking over the site.
Oh, and with that change in the story, they might have thought that it was not worth putting too much efforts since BL were not yet a popular genre, it's only the same summer as the end of shooting that Guardian was enough of a hit to start to change the way drama makers see BL now, yet it was The Untamed itself that really impacted it enough that now there's plenty of higher budget such drama either filming or waiting their license.
Thank you so much for reading and keeping an open mind! I love the characters of the untamed and while I am more…
Did you see that the official English translation of all 3 novels of MoXiang TongXiu are coming from next Christmas up to 2023? MDZS will have 5 books, TGCF 8. And I'm with you, even though I watched the drama before knowing it was a book, I still much prefer the book's plot and narrative. Though I'm also partial to Xiao Zhan's acting. I didn't know anything about c-drama, my daughter was just discovering the Untamed as a 1st try and I stubble upon her watching the ep 32. I was immediatly enthralled by his acting, I actually felt that he WAS that character, no "playing" involved!
Anyway, today is finaly the airing of the final season of the donghua, and even though it's the adaptation that I least enjoy, I still like it enough to be sooooo excited!
I really love the series too, I just sometimes sit in a corner and cry about what it COULD'VE been if the production…
I think it has a lot to do with the origina story. MoXiang TongXiu is a genius imho! And the acting of Xiao Zhan is simply amazing. He can make us FEEL everything alongside him... I only read the novel AFTER watching the drama, so on top of not being an expert in cinematography like you, I didn't have the problem of knowing what was coming, so I felt the direct impact of the story as I discovered it. I must say that on rewatch though, all those details become more annoying... lol Add to it the frustration I feel on them tuning down Wei WuXian power, and after each rewatch I run to read the book again! But eventually I want to see Xiao Zhan acting again, so the cycle restart! lmao
I didn't go in-depth into the whole Shijie sequences but that one was badly shot from beginning to end. There…
I agree, Chineses seem to have so many great stories in store, that deserve better treatment than what they get. Instead of Netflix though, I'd like to see one of these with HBO or Amazon. Netflix tend to abandon its series too much! lol The Untamed is on Netfilx ofc, but Douluo Continent is now on Amazon, maybe they'll become aware of the potential there... Let's wish! :P
Ohh, you're so right! I hadn't thought about that in depth because audio design is not really my area of expertise…
Indeed, probably all costume drama in Chinese entertainment industry are dubbed due to their way of filming. Their "Hollywood" city of Hengdian is also a huge attraction park, and they simply cut off the area where the filming will take place. They can even have more than one going on at once. So they reproduce all sound in studio. Even the studio filming is dubbed because of noise, since while they shoot one part, they're building another scene right beside, and/or demolishing another one somewhere else close by. When you listen to BTS, it's a wonder they can actually hear themselves saying their lines for all the noise around!
So yah, it's a wonder that such a badly filmed drama could hit audience so well, coz even though we can feel those lacks, most of us still want to watch it again and again. I think it speaks loudly for the talent of the original author MoXiang Tong Xiu and of the actor Xiao Zhan!
Johnny Huang gets to marry the gurl and Xiang Nan gives up his love? So who exactly is the main lead. But i just…
You can see above the explanation, how they signed XZ as main role at 1st, and now switched him as support role while cuting most of his sideline plots, with family, spouse and friends.
For instance, they're not supposed to have reincarnation, nor ghosts, as everything related to spirits are banned, so they adapted them as "puppets", or made WWX in a kind of limbo for those 16 years rather than truly dead (in the secret chamber, JGY explains that the manuscript was talking of a technic to bring back someone on the brink of death...🙄) I was told it's because some years ago, there were waves of suicides in the hope of a better life in reincarnation, so that topic is now forbidden.
I don't know how much it has to do with censorship, but the use of music at both Qiongqi Path & Buyetian city to "replace" the manipulation of WWX's emotions by JGY is interesting, since they wanted to make him less dangerous, and JGY less grey. Moral & ethic in dramas need to be clearer than in novels as they consider that youngsters may be more influenced by visual medium than written ones. As a mother, I personnaly used the "greyness" of the novel as a very interesting topic of discussion with my daughter, but I guess it's not every parents that might want or feel ablt to tackle such matters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7UFFmg-dLo&list=PLR0YaoROwpocw1f9241HmKgBbvbOMg0mp&index=56
Also, a change in the storyline more than halfway through shooting coz the novel's fandom discovered that they had changed the original love story with Lan WangJi to a straight romance with Wen Qing. So they cut lots of her scenes (as we can see in the newly released BTS), and added more for LWJ, even though as an original support character he was quite busy with other commitments, so they used a lot of body doubles.
Yet, c-drama usually have to respect their schedule to the day since more often than not, as soon as it's done another drama is taking over the site.
Oh, and with that change in the story, they might have thought that it was not worth putting too much efforts since BL were not yet a popular genre, it's only the same summer as the end of shooting that Guardian was enough of a hit to start to change the way drama makers see BL now, yet it was The Untamed itself that really impacted it enough that now there's plenty of higher budget such drama either filming or waiting their license.
Anyway, today is finaly the airing of the final season of the donghua, and even though it's the adaptation that I least enjoy, I still like it enough to be sooooo excited!
So yah, it's a wonder that such a badly filmed drama could hit audience so well, coz even though we can feel those lacks, most of us still want to watch it again and again. I think it speaks loudly for the talent of the original author MoXiang Tong Xiu and of the actor Xiao Zhan!