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Are you sure about having double date? lol why I feel the zoo is only for Gorya and Thyme and its stage of getting to know each other before his mother comes and Gorya begins to see thyme with his hideous world and reveals facts to her regarding his being an heir? that he has to do the next things and he is unstable, etc

Yes, its similar Chinese version of the girl's character in the manga, and there are also some of scenes in Taiwanese version and almost a Korean version regarding her feelings and instead of dealing with her feelings towards Daoming Si and asking herself, but she chose to ignore or be stupid..lol
Like how after the engagement of Daoming Si, we saw that she was very jealous of him and could not bear this denial of feelings and many situations where her feelings appear, but in the end she tells Daoming Si that I have feelings for 10% and acts as if she doesn't understand herself -_-
I can't blame you for Daoming Si's fiancée lol she does whatever she dictates to her heart meaning follow her heart and be on herself instead of thinking too much like Shansai

Exactly agree with you. I had already said about this thing , but what can we do? :/ They keep comparing this version with old one and make other version as if its standard but all versions are taken from same Japanese Manga which has many chapters.. :/

-About a competition they didn't put in Japanese version (considering the number of episodes is short compared to other versions) that's why I think in this Thai version they won't put this competition... and I agree with you I didn't like how they dealt with this problem regarding the love triangle, they could have talked together But they made it through the competition :/

-No, I don't have a problem with FL taking her time to realize her feelings, but there are some situations in the long versions where she acts as ignorant leads me crazy lol... But if it's about the issue of different classes and the issue of the mother or the issue of the man's emotion and she has the right to hesitate :)

-I saw in the official Trailer, Gorya crying and I think her crying is due to her inability to be with Thyme or that she is unable to deny her feelings and not forget him. There are several reasons, but certainly it will be because of social situation, thyme is an heir who has to act like his mother and not on his own self. .
As for concept trailer, I don't know about Thai drama (im new with this thing:D) Some of people told me that not everything in this trailer gonna happen, this is an experimental example, in other words, we may not see ren carrying Gorya. Nor to see MJ face Ren angrily :D

-about End, After read this Synopsis from VIU,It shows us their maturity and how they prepare for the adult world, so it might happen like BOF.
*Note:If you don't read the Synopsis , I'll be glad to send you ^^

-LOL its ok :D Let's see what gonna happen in this version and I hope they continue to amaze us :)

Lol, I know he's an idiot and he couldn't decide at first to join Mira and he needed motivation to do that :D After his failure in his relationship with Mira, his mind is gone and he believes this is the way all relationships be like this, like people easily skip and move to other relationships simply, look at the case of Kavin,,, This means there are people affected by a wound greatly, and there are people who deal with a wound badly and wrongly or in a way Right... Let's hope this version won't happen like the previous versions.:D

I don't know why I feel there is something different in next episode, is it because I see thyme want to talk with ren? In this way, we didn't see ML talking to his friend in other versions, right?

nobody know when ,i guess they will drop this song this week.Probably Tuesday or Wednesday

There is something I wanted to share with you about thyme and Ren's doll, from this story here is what I get:
since thyme said this doll is the most precious and beloved doll to ren and he couldn’t sleep without this doll. So what is the most precious to thyme? It’s Gorya even he can’t imagine life without her/ need her.

lets talk about why thyme did this with doll:
For Ren, doll=love of his parents for him and they take care of him to make him sleep. To thyme who has lack of this feeling and wants his mother's love for him/her attention/care for him when he is sick but he doesn't have this,So he wanted to take this doll to feel this love or didn't want to feel his mom not love him.
And now the opposite, Gorya who is the most valuable Person to Thyme..
For Ren, who failed to achieve his future with Mira and couldn't provide everything for her or satisfy her..his return from France means failure to preserve his great love and Mira wanted to live abroad to achieve her dream and she had no problem living without Ren, meaning she could spend her life without Ren or marry someone else.
So when ren see Gorya love thyme and they are growing each other and learn from each other / fight for each other for their love. And if they are far from each other, they wont be able to forget each other, nor their love, nor spend their lives without one of them(whether its Thyme or Gorya).…All this didn't happen to Ren and his relationship with Mira..
>>thyme gets upset because he didn't get his mother's love, while Ren gets upset because he didn't get his great love.

We saw how they fight over doll, so will we see them fight over Gorya?
its like no matter what thyme did anything to prove there is no parental love, he couldn't make Ren's parents love disappear, are we going to see ren do anything to prove that great love isn't there but he will see no matter what he does, Gorya still loves thyme and their love won't disappear?
So what you think ? :D

It's new Ost, we are waiting for it to be uploaded in YouTube :D

It turns out the director thought about these things and took some things into consideration so that he gives reality about Thyme's life and how he is an heir and his cold upbringing , made him has awareness about strict rules in this house and about everything that happens to his sister, he even knows the head maid is strict and they seem care about the integrity of the girls and their morals...:D
Maybe because the rest of the versions missed these things and wanted some characters served for love story or sth for FL to say her sth about ML? Like they took the lady maid to support their relationship, his sister for FL too

-Wow, I loved the episode, for each episode I like it more and more, there are also lessons about maturity , self-acceptance and many examples of reason for bullying, as it is known that one of the causes of bullying is because of self-hatred, as Hana's story clarified and I like that they didn't deal with Hana's story properly. Belittle, but give her advice to love herself more... +beside hana's part to some kind of reflect what thyme been through, here Someone in this link has explained it well https://twitter.com/subway_dates/status/1485132857135669248?s=20

This is how we see bullying these days is due to self-hatred, so we must first accept ourselves and love ourselves.. This is for Hana who didn't love herself and torture others because she tortures herself, we will see about ren who loses his love and how does he deal with his loss (which is why some people don't want him back lol but I think coming back ren will prove that Gorya and thyme appreciate each other as Hana made thyme realize his feelings for gorya). "I just hope it doesn't take too long and doesn't underestimate the value of F4's friendship" :D

-I love very much relationship between thyme and Gorya because there is the most important connection between them which is communication where they both learn from each other and understand each other and I can understand after that how they fell in love, unlike what we see in other versions where I feel a bit as if they force her to be in a relationship with ML, or how they bring characters like ( sister, Madame, or a friend ) in order to explain FL about the character of ML and his upbringing...

-There are people who think that thyme is very nice for the domyouji/gun jupyo/dao mingsi character, so I wanted to say situation about him in general. For Thyme, there are many issues such as his irritability, his cold upbringing, his lack of a warmth of family, how he feels lost, like he has to behave either as an heir like his mother, who wants him to be ruthless or being himself, who has kindness and wants to be loved>> so because of this struggle, he get angry and irritated, he doesn't know what to do with his condition,
+also in last scene thyme and gorya hiding the room, when she ask him about how he buys unnecessary things, it shows how he buys things like star lights in order to fill his emptiness inside him with something happiness or hope as if he is looking for something missing but still feels empty.. this lycris of new Ost suitable for explaining his situation: "I don’t want to go back..Stuck in my own world..All alone with no one..Can I stay would you please ...You and me together ...That’s all that matters ..You’ve made my life so complete"
Now how we get character of thyme and understand his situation, see his kindness and maturity and all this "in the absence of his mother" and unfortunately I think his mother has strong influence on thyme, she can controls him and makes him return to the previous like his mother.In this way, we will see his struggle with himself because he is lost.

No problem, each of us has things to do and we don't have much time with internet LOL ^^
In manga there is love triangle story like Taiwanese, Korean and Chinese version where ML are all hurt when FL lies to him and that all she thinks about is SLS while they are at the beach or on a trip + ML saw them kissing :D "here Drama started , after competitions for her and SLS to stay in school and eventually ML loses and makes them stay in school then on her first date with SLS she felt weird and couldn't forget Domyouji but this is kind of the end of love triangle in the manga... but it took a lot of time for her to confess her love for Domyouji.During all this period there were only other men or things usual about her side Job and something her relationship with Domyouji who usually goes up and down lol.. But in manga SLS's character is like a mysterious character and sleeps a lot, didn't interfere much and didn't get angry at Domyouji , he is just like the rest of F4 (what I mean like what they did in all versions show he's biased against ML for Makino).
The topic is in the end manga where when Domyouji goes outside and being busy a lot, that's why Roy usually visits her and likes to take care of her if she needs something help, and this makes he loves and gets used to her as he did with his first love, where he gets used to her since his childhood ,, in the end he was just wonders if he will fall in love like the first love or Makino..Point here in manga they left open endings that's why each version in the series has kinda different endings...

The Japanese version is shorter than this.what happened here is Makino give chance to date Domyouji, but it was a double date and they ended up arguing then it caused a misunderstanding (there is no kiss) and with this Makino gave a chance to go on a date with Rui but she didn't forget Domyouji so run help her to make her know about her feeling for Domyouji so simply she wanted to give Domyouji chance
After she knew why he hit boyfriend's best friend.
BTW I want to correct the information Domyouji was watching them and did not take his fiancée, but rather a character (Hana) aka is the one who followed him lol.
In the end, manga doesn't have such reasonable order of events, they usually add unnecessary events to prove that their love triumphs and that Makino and Domyouji's destiny is one and predestined like how they write Batman books and write monsters against him and it always make batman win to show that good side is always wins lol.
+The director in Thai versions said beforehand that he had read the manga, I quote here:
"So I read the comic. The manga came out a long time ago. But there’s a contemporary element that could be interesting. There are some angles that I could make into a story in this version. There are topics that work well with the current time.Once I got started, I found that a remake is very difficult to do, so much more than I expected. I used to think that the original should provide a structure for us. But actually the details are difficult. There are so many considerations. How will I show respect to the original? And how will I add something special to make it fresh? Many layers that I need to figure out.F4 is not just another love story. The content is filled with many agendas that we want to show about social statues and bullying. Its a story about transformation and coming of age." This explains why this version is different from the rest

I think it's Thyme's birthday

I don't fully remember the details because some things are different between the versions, but here I mention what I do remember:
- the bus scene ML wanted to go after Makino for a second chance and he wanted to fight for love again, the person who was with Makino on the bus was another man - The man who was hired by ML's mother - This happened in Taiwanese version, but in Chinese version they made SLS ride with Shansai on the bus and that he did any way to prevent Daoming Si from meeting Shansai after learning from Daoming Si that he wanted to pursue her....
- also after The rain scene where Shansai went to village and in the manga they made Domyoji with Hanazuri follow into the village to bring her back, in Chinese version they just let Lei go to her and take her...
+ to the Korean version, many thing they gave events to SLS, such as about his grandfather and how he continues his pursuit of FL (in this case, the meaning of friendship between him and ML was meaningless ), because in manga his character was not made that he pursues her and continues to interfere with her topics and there was not much problems between him and Domyouji (he already knew about his limits)..Where in the end Domyouji was absent for a period of years for his work and his responsibility and he agreed with Makino to meet again, marry, etc. In this case, Hanazori was responsible for Makino, but with a limited, perhaps that's why he became habit to take care of her( kinda same in the end of K.Version)
I think because there is a special chapter regarding Hana zu rui at the end of the book (which has nothing to do with Makino's memoirs): https://r.mangaowls.com/reader/725/1466766?tr=u%2F%2B3tNEd4HH5f7H0KPAVVQ%3D%3D&s=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWFuZ2Fvd2wubmV0
>> it has been clarified how he thinks about love and whether if he will fall in love with someone else like his first love and Makino and in this way most writers have distorted and modified events (Maybe because of an obsession with the idea of ​​a love triangle)

Agreed, actually all versions derived from a manga book, which is like memories about the heroine's life, her school, love story and there was no talk about her life after school.
+to this girl, it is normal for her to learn what is happening about some of the F4 characters and other characters, For example, she know about character of "Kavin"Aka through her close friend who tells her everything and she know about fiancée through herself who tells FL all thing with ML of details, somewhat funny that the manga book seems to me character of the girl as if she has A supernatural Power, for example, ending a conflict between her and ML's mother by her saving a stranger who had a role in saving his mother's company.
Thus, all versions Taken from the manga the same way of narration, but with modifications, for example, SLS in the series from version 1 did something, he didn't do it in manga book, but someone else,, perhaps they wanted to add events to SLS lol.but in a way all the Versions talk about FL and love life more.
In the Thai version, we were able to learn the points of view of all the characters more than the way the narration is from someone's point of view, its like seeing all characters from an outside perspective instead of seeing the characters through one persons perception.

Wow!! Thank you for the article!! it was Great article ^^
I think the difference also stems from the way of narration, since they gave the story of ML's character and his background (It's too early to talk about all F4 situation, we're still in the beginning of the series) it proves this show tells about everyone's life and is not like notebook of memories from FL's life and what she lived and experienced and about her love story. That is why from other versions it was difficult to get to know ML's character except through her. Since the manga is about the life of FL, which is why in the beginning versions they take it in this way - such as cartoon, comic way, etc.

LOl Didn't they see their conversation between T and G? Why was thyme mad at her and tell her what he knows about this behaviour.
if he is possessive, He would have gone too far regarding her feelings for Ren or forced him to get close to her. the way he admitted he forced her to date and all these things don't make him possessive..He is ignorant of how to love someone

here what I've found comment from YouTube (its interesting/ good point!!)

-For me this club scene harkens back to that moment in the amusement park in which Gorya hugs the “bear” to get a free ride. After Thyme’s hilarious bout of jealousy towards the bear, he tells Gorya “Don’t be gullable and go hugging anyone to get free stuff.” It’s not only that he’s jealous of other guys touching Gorya, it’s also his “animalistic” instinct to protect her and distrust people who could take advantage of her weaknesses. In the club she exposed herself in a much more dangerous but similar manner, so I wonder if the choice of having this scene in the club is to highlight, not only that Gorya is gullible, but also that she can easily succumb to the temptations of putting herself at risk for money? And this reminds us of what Thyme warned her not to do…

I suppose that what will come out out of all of this is Gorya realising she’s frequently too trusting. After all, those of us who are familiar with the story know it is her closest school friend who took those photos in the club and shared them with everyone.

This club scene is also validating the advice Thyme received from his friends: “you shouldn’t be with someone who latches on to every opportunity to make money…” This was said in reference to something else, but it’s relevant here, as Thyme may start to realise what being with a girl like Gorya could mean… It’s another trial for him to overcome: he’s not used to poverty and has not been exposed to the degrading side of it yet.

Also Thyme will realise that Gorya can easily fall victim to predators, which will force him to activate his protective instincts and , ultimately, to grow up.

Well said,, I agree all what u said ^^ I like this style of relationships where they get to know each other and learn from each other as well and how they mature together...

What is interesting in this version, Gorya appeared to have strength (less shy like she was expecting a kiss lol, but if she feel shy she would push him) and more conscious that she is able to study thyme and say what she thinks like the kidnapping scene where thyme wanted an apology but he didn't do it right way by her saying :You feel guilt inside you, that's why you give me all these things but you fix the problem in wrong way and also finally she is the first girl who ask him why he hurt people with the red card...

About Thyme in this version he appears to be shy or ignorant about the feeling of warmth Like when he wanted to put his head on her lap again, but when the door opened, he act like he was caught saying I didn't do anything Lol- I mean, he didn't want to kiss her and by his thinking that putting his head on her lap is a big deal? it tells a lot about him his lack of experience or his warm feelings.Also, his fear of receiving these feelings, such as getting first kiss, that made him confuse and run away proves how his family upbringing is like cold and devoid of emotions.

I liked that Gorya thought of Thyme while she was in the club, unlike the rest of the versions who only thought of SLs, this is something exaggerated in my opinion because in this way we feel she loves him very much, it is not like an admiration or crush when she act like she cannot forget SLS and saw him as if he is the center of her story..Boom with just a kiss or first date she discovers she have feelings for the ML's character? This is too much lol

I think The broken door is the front door in Gorya's house, since this is only door that broke or fell and when this happened, Thyme and Gorya were hugging suddenly and it's like they're breaking their wall allowing them to reveal their feelings and all their sides
(breaking their wall = crossing this line that Kavin warned)

I don't know what will happen because here in this version Gorya didn't lying to him/ they aren't dating + thyme knows this thing unlike another versions...
In the previous scene thyme shows his frustration regarding Gorya's naivety when she was about to cuddle the bear, there is point here: she should be careful and not trust others and reveal other people's intentions as she did with Hana when she initially defended her - it will prove that Hana intended to get close From thyme at the beginning of the episode and Thyme's words to Hana (Is this a tactic to get close to men) it was as if he felt this way but Gorya didn't see this and simply defended her friend - also how she believed the words of the mafia men and agreed with them and when she saw how they deceived her she went Directly - It should be noted here that Gorya feels ashamed and doesn't want anyone to know what she did, neither from her family, nor her friend Kaning, nor everyone - + who knows maybe there is a message about scandal

regarding thyme, will he get angry because what she did to herself or out of fear for her, as what would happen to her if men approached her in a way So violent that she can't protect herself? Or will he give an emotional response when Gorya told him, like she gives the impression that she doesn't care about him? There are so many possibilities that it's hard for us to conclude>>> but this incident will make Gorya and Thyme learn many things like trusting & friendship , realize their feelings and that they have already crossed this line (which already in the previous episode said they are impossible to cross) it is true in the previous episode there is deep communication and how they learn about each other and how to flirt and take care of each other but there is a wall between them which is the awareness of their feelings And also with regards to Ren where Thyme tries to respect her feelings, etc