To me it's not about physical elements, remember ae being shorter than Pete. And ae was a perfect seme and pete extremely an uke...
But I do agree that green was the seme. Why? It's more about how they behave around the other. Green is stronger and firm whereas champ strong character is a front for how helpless he feels with his weaknesses... But when green is being green, Champs front melts to the point of being almost submissive..
Nope! Such a disappointment! I thought the plot sounded interesting at first and, let be honest Zee is in it! However... I could not watch pass episode 2!
The main couple: nice, good chemistry and all. However, Lian was unnecessary cruel to Kuea. It even looked like he enjoyed being that cruel to the childhood crush/friend that he had vowed to protect forever... It's understandable if he has feeling for someone else but that does not justify being that cruel. And then, after he realize he made a mistake, realizing that that someone else was indeed the same Kueain disguise, he started to push Kuea around, like taunting him, mocking him, imposing his presence without even an apology? Nah, no matter if he finally did it later. The first thing he had to do was beg for forgiveness, not act like he was Kuea's owner.
It would had been better plotwise if he didn't find out that his new crush was actually Kuea in disguise until much later, and he spends a couple of episodes following him, trying to find out the identity of the elusive singer/biker... And. Then he had to regret his actions and show he deserved to be with kuea. That would had been a much better plot...
The second couple : OMG! I only had to watch one real interaction between them and nah, super big nah. He was even worse that Lian! And that's saying a lot!
So, I dropped the show. There's a lot of other great shows I can watch instead of wasting my time with this one. I still don't understand how this show has better mark that "Why R U? "
Nope! Such a disappointment! I thought the plot sounded interesting at first and, let be honest Zee is in it! However... I could not watch pass episode 2!
The main couple: nice, good chemistry and all. However, Lian was unnecessary cruel to Kuea. It even looked like he enjoyed being that cruel to the childhood crush/friend that he had vowed to protect forever... It's understandable if he has feeling for someone else but that does not justify being that cruel. And then, after he realize he made a mistake, realizing that that someone else was indeed the same Kueain disguise, he started to push Kuea around, like taunting him, mocking him, imposing his presence without even an apology? Nah, no matter if he finally did it later. The first thing he had to do was beg for forgiveness, not act like he was Kuea's owner.
It would had been better plotwise if he didn't find out that his new crush was actually Kuea in disguise until much later, and he spends a couple of episodes following him, trying to find out the identity of the elusive singer/biker... And. Then he had to regret his actions and show he deserved to be with kuea. That would had been a much better plot...
The second couple : OMG! I only had to watch one real interaction between them and nah, super big nah. He was even worse that Lian! And that's saying a lot!
So, I dropped the show. There's a lot of other great shows I can watch instead of wasting my time with this one. I still don't understand how this show has better mark that "Why R U? "
I came here to see if I was alone thinking this! Thank you!
I enjoyed a lot watching the first 7-8 episodes! However, the last two, it was so disappointing how things were going that it took me about two years to basically force myself to come back and watch the rest! Basically my main problem was the girlfriend! Everybody let her do whatever she wanted! The way she assaulted Pum... It was too much for me. And second, after taking Pum's cherry, Sib started acting all confused with his best friend... Wow.. That was terrible to watch!
After watching the first season and the first 8 episodes of this season, I expected much more of the end..
hey i might understand why you 'ugh' krist but mike is perfectly fine lmao that man deserves a main role at this…
I mainly agree with you. However I do share concerns about Mike. The times he has played a gay role, real affection had been offscreen/simulated, like in tonhon and chonlatee and yes it was funny but not romantic, that's my point...
I hope they show real affection between loved ones in this series, and no it doesn't have to be French kissing or really r rated stuff.
about a year old of a comment but honestly yes. i think all those factors really add on to how it got so bad.…
Absolutely! I cannot see them either!
The fact that they refuse to kiss (light feathers like kisses on the lips would have been enough) is very unprofessional in my eyes! If you don't want to kiss another dude, it's ok, but do not audition to play a character who is going to be in a gay relationship and especially when it's the lead couple!
Thank you! I've been saying that for a while on YouTube but only got hate in return!
I agree with everything you said 100000%! It got so bad I had to stop watching! I intended to retake it latter but every time I tried I had to stop again! I finally dropped it for good by episode 6 or 7. There are so many amazing series to be wasting my time with this one. My reasons? Basically what you said:
- the chemistry disappeared once they got together. - Wine brother "interference"'s was very unrealistic and highly annoying. Yes, I know it's a plot device, but man! It's not even funny... - the lack of intimacy! As you said, they don't need to be kissing like the want to devour one another but come on! If the actors who auditioned to play gay couple refuse to kiss (shame on them), at least find a better way to show the intimacy! There are so many great series where straight actors refuse/limit the same gender kissing but the intimacy was there with a very high chemistry! And by the way, I blacklisted the actors! If you have a problem with kissing another actor of the same gender, do not audition to play a gay character, it's as simple as that.
Here’s a video by moonconsort that I found helpful with this situation https://youtu.be/bfJ6TILnYU8
That makes sense... I always found really weird that his voice had to be dubbed! To much work instead of casting a Thai guy... There's a lot of guys that could have played the role, some might have been even Chinese!
Here’s a video by moonconsort that I found helpful with this situation https://youtu.be/bfJ6TILnYU8
Yes, of course I understand. I've seen a lot of Asian bl series and I can see a lot of differences from western cultures (I'm from Venezuela).
So, yes I see that's a big thing to get used to even for someone from another Asian culture.
Yes, he is Chinese and he was imposed by a Chinese investor to be a part of the cast. So I guess that could cause some problems with the rest of the cast that did win the audition process.
But who knows what's the real story. Maybe it's a combination of multiple stuff...
Yes, you can use your imagination to see what is going on to happen! However, there's a big difference between imagine it and know HOW it's going to happen!
If it's so matterfully achieved as the first season, we would be in for a treat!
Has anyone heard anything about a possible second season?
Here’s a video by moonconsort that I found helpful with this situation https://youtu.be/bfJ6TILnYU8
Hi eddi. What do you mean by problems with his personality? What's the story you know?
I'm asking because I read that he was not included on any of the fan meetings and anything after the show because he had caused problems with the filming by arriving very very late to the set. So yes people were mad at him but not because of his personality but because his lack of professionalism..
So, what did you read/hear about his problems with the crew?
Just saying...
But I do agree that green was the seme. Why? It's more about how they behave around the other. Green is stronger and firm whereas champ strong character is a front for how helpless he feels with his weaknesses... But when green is being green, Champs front melts to the point of being almost submissive..
The main couple: nice, good chemistry and all. However, Lian was unnecessary cruel to Kuea. It even looked like he enjoyed being that cruel to the childhood crush/friend that he had vowed to protect forever... It's understandable if he has feeling for someone else but that does not justify being that cruel. And then, after he realize he made a mistake, realizing that that someone else was indeed the same Kueain disguise, he started to push Kuea around, like taunting him, mocking him, imposing his presence without even an apology? Nah, no matter if he finally did it later. The first thing he had to do was beg for forgiveness, not act like he was Kuea's owner.
It would had been better plotwise if he didn't find out that his new crush was actually Kuea in disguise until much later, and he spends a couple of episodes following him, trying to find out the identity of the elusive singer/biker... And. Then he had to regret his actions and show he deserved to be with kuea. That would had been a much better plot...
The second couple : OMG! I only had to watch one real interaction between them and nah, super big nah. He was even worse that Lian! And that's saying a lot!
So, I dropped the show. There's a lot of other great shows I can watch instead of wasting my time with this one. I still don't understand how this show has better mark that "Why R U? "
The main couple: nice, good chemistry and all. However, Lian was unnecessary cruel to Kuea. It even looked like he enjoyed being that cruel to the childhood crush/friend that he had vowed to protect forever... It's understandable if he has feeling for someone else but that does not justify being that cruel. And then, after he realize he made a mistake, realizing that that someone else was indeed the same Kueain disguise, he started to push Kuea around, like taunting him, mocking him, imposing his presence without even an apology? Nah, no matter if he finally did it later. The first thing he had to do was beg for forgiveness, not act like he was Kuea's owner.
It would had been better plotwise if he didn't find out that his new crush was actually Kuea in disguise until much later, and he spends a couple of episodes following him, trying to find out the identity of the elusive singer/biker... And. Then he had to regret his actions and show he deserved to be with kuea. That would had been a much better plot...
The second couple : OMG! I only had to watch one real interaction between them and nah, super big nah. He was even worse that Lian! And that's saying a lot!
So, I dropped the show. There's a lot of other great shows I can watch instead of wasting my time with this one. I still don't understand how this show has better mark that "Why R U? "
I enjoyed a lot watching the first 7-8 episodes! However, the last two, it was so disappointing how things were going that it took me about two years to basically force myself to come back and watch the rest! Basically my main problem was the girlfriend! Everybody let her do whatever she wanted! The way she assaulted Pum... It was too much for me. And second, after taking Pum's cherry, Sib started acting all confused with his best friend... Wow.. That was terrible to watch!
After watching the first season and the first 8 episodes of this season, I expected much more of the end..
I hope they show real affection between loved ones in this series, and no it doesn't have to be French kissing or really r rated stuff.
Let's keep finger crossed!
The fact that they refuse to kiss (light feathers like kisses on the lips would have been enough) is very unprofessional in my eyes! If you don't want to kiss another dude, it's ok, but do not audition to play a character who is going to be in a gay relationship and especially when it's the lead couple!
I agree with everything you said 100000%! It got so bad I had to stop watching! I intended to retake it latter but every time I tried I had to stop again! I finally dropped it for good by episode 6 or 7. There are so many amazing series to be wasting my time with this one. My reasons? Basically what you said:
- the chemistry disappeared once they got together.
- Wine brother "interference"'s was very unrealistic and highly annoying. Yes, I know it's a plot device, but man! It's not even funny...
- the lack of intimacy! As you said, they don't need to be kissing like the want to devour one another but come on! If the actors who auditioned to play gay couple refuse to kiss (shame on them), at least find a better way to show the intimacy! There are so many great series where straight actors refuse/limit the same gender kissing but the intimacy was there with a very high chemistry! And by the way, I blacklisted the actors! If you have a problem with kissing another actor of the same gender, do not audition to play a gay character, it's as simple as that.
So, it's nice to read I'm not the only one!
Thanks!
So, yes I see that's a big thing to get used to even for someone from another Asian culture.
Yes, he is Chinese and he was imposed by a Chinese investor to be a part of the cast. So I guess that could cause some problems with the rest of the cast that did win the audition process.
But who knows what's the real story. Maybe it's a combination of multiple stuff...
Yes, you can use your imagination to see what is going on to happen! However, there's a big difference between imagine it and know HOW it's going to happen!
If it's so matterfully achieved as the first season, we would be in for a treat!
Has anyone heard anything about a possible second season?
King and Ram are perfect!
I'm asking because I read that he was not included on any of the fan meetings and anything after the show because he had caused problems with the filming by arriving very very late to the set. So yes people were mad at him but not because of his personality but because his lack of professionalism..
So, what did you read/hear about his problems with the crew?