Ar-Feiniel

I'm at episode 27 and mostly enjoying the drama, but that plot of her drugging him made me so annoyed. The whole camp took part in this silly charade, and it was all fun and games until they remembered that they are, in fact, fighting a war. Her decision was stupid and reckless and wouldn't fly anywhere, but it was entirely his fault for deceiving her for so long. I don't remember shouting at my TV quite this much in a while.

Replay to y'all: those kind of parasocial relationships are unhealthy and problematic. All that "my oopa can't be dating someone 😭", "my oppa denied it, they are just friends, I knew I should trust him 🥰", "I know my oppa best and he'd never do this🤔". Ick. Why can't fans listen to the music/watch shows and generally support them, instead of gatekeeping their love lives? It's because they don't see them as human beings, real people. That's the message of the drama - idols are people with normal human emotions. The FL was initially portrayed as a better kind of fan, because she saw him as a person first, when he showed her real kindness, so I was taken aback when she fell into the same trap as all the other unreasonable fans. Yes, she didn't send funeral wreaths or led boycotts online, but this kind of intense reaction to something as insignificant as dating rumors was sorta pathetic, childish and off-putting (especially cos she wasn't a teen anymore). I'm glad that in the end she came to the conclusion "Ah, I didn't realize it until now, but he must have felt hurt"... But it took way too long to remember that he's a flawed person with a variety of feelings, emotions and needs. And that she may know his fav toothpaste, but she, in fact, doesn't know the real him, because the parasocial relationships aren't real. Don't know why it's a controversial take not to be a weirdo towards stars you like. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm actually dissapointed with the FL, because while she's condemning toxic fan culture (stalking, entitled and crazy behavior etc.), she's simultaneously upholding it, by being upset that her idol might have been dating someone in the past and even in the present. She's an adult ffs. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Not enough suffering tbh. Tsk, tsk.

There's logic and then there's Sorn's logic. Having sex with someone younger (not a minor!)? Perfectly fine and dandy. Liking someone younger (again, not a freaking minor!)? Preposterous idea, completely scandalous. 🙄 Sorn's way of thinking is a wee bit inconsistent, methinks.

Major Gone with the Wind vibes. Scarlett and Rhett in 1600s Joseon.

No idea, unless you predict that, after an intense love affair, they will fall apart in the most spectacular way, and will be scarred forever because of it. And he'd better not sing it, cos All Too Well is a masterpiece, while Cutiepie is a marshmallow (aka fluffy, sickly sweet and with no substance).

Yeah, if I took a shot every time he says he's gonna call the engagement off, I'd be drunk by the end of every episode. Honestly, this show barely moved forward with the plot and the character development is mininal. Wasn't the whole premise of Cutiepie that Kuea decides to shed his fake goody-goody persona and be himself openly? Yet in episode 6 he's still pretending, and what's worse, more folks join this charade. I definitely expected a very different kind of show.
When I saw the trailer I was also sceptical, if I'm gonna buy the transformation of Kuea, because the actor seems like a very cute and boring boy. How is he supposed be a believable rocker or biker, right? Well, I didn't have to worry, cos he's not doing anything that would require of him to exude any kind of edginess/charisma or act more rebelliously. He's all fake childish cuteness all the time now, and it's grating on my nerves so bad. I can't stand his whiny voice and cutesy demeanor. I can't stand that his "lover" and even his friends treat him like a defenseless baby that needs constant supervision. Ugh.

They aren't just activists that organize rallies and sometimes get into fights though. Instead they introduced as militants that do serious acts of violence, arson and whatnot to fight the system. Exactly because they are also Law and Art students they feel more natural in the university setting scenes, than planning to overthrow those in power by violent means. Anyhow, my point was that I associate those actors with different kinds of roles (mostly university students, which is why it fits them more). Even if they used to play bad boys that liked to fight, the themes of Not Me are much darker and more serious (imbalance of power, social discontent, inequality, unjust law, kleptocracy etc), than anything else they participated in (except for Gun, but he looks like a kid anyway). Thus, I can't help not really believing their characters yet.

I love Gun. He's such a great actor. But a hardened gang member? Not so much, cos look at him, he's still such a baby. In fact, I'm not sure I'm buying any of those nice and clean GMM actors as authentic radical left-wing activists. I'll give it a chance, but for now it feels like they are cosplaying instead of being those characters. Also, since I'm not Thai, I can't tell how realistic the world created in this drama is, however I know that new earrings or tattoos don't heal in a span of a few days. Especially when the tattoo is as large as Black/White's. After a couple of days it still should be pretty fresh, so putting engine oil on it and then rubbing it with laundry detergent... Yikes. It really took me out of the story, cos it struck me as very improbable.

Actually, I was very impressed with episode 1, but the next ones let me down. The pacing slowed down. The stories in episodes are very mundane and dragging a lot, so they could use a lot more editing. I'm more often confused, than feeling any suspense. They just take too much time to get to the important reveal at the end of the episodes, and I find myself bored to the point, that I once fell asleep watching it. If something doesn't change, I'll drop the show entirely.
I really wanted to love it cos of Signal, but it is what it is.

Overall, the first 2-3 episodes were the worst, with ep 1 making my head explode. Too much melodrama and repetitiveness with regards to Leo and Fiat storyline. The other couple was sweet enough for me to finish the drama, but not to save it entirely. In a nutshell, it's a low quality money grab to get fans excited, but in the end they managed not to suck as badly as I expected after ep 1.

Me after watching this: *facepalm*

The answer is simple, official ban on all LGBTQ+ content in Chinese media. However, the production companies still want to profit off BL popularity, so they try to walk a fine line between what's not gonna fly and what might be acceptable. The scriptwriters sort of censor themselves from the get go, to ensure that their projects get aired.
So, if BL element is not explicit or spelled out, the production can say that it's a story about noble and beautiful friendship between two men and that's that. Luckily, homoerotic/romantic vibes don't require specific dialouges or obvious actions. And if the intended audience can decipher the coded messages, presented on screen, then they can read the subtext (love story), while censorship only reads the literal text (friendship). Still, I'm so surprised that so much stuff got past the censorship in The Untamed. Either someone in there really liked the show, or they are all really dense.

I seriously suspect that Hwang In Yeop is a secret baby of Lee Jun Ki and Kim Woo Bin, and I'm here for it.

Such a pointless drama. Even though the episodes were super short, somehow they still felt kinda long. Probably because there was much filler in there, which should be impossible with the little time they had, and yet... I've got a tip for the production team: next time hire a decent (or any) scriptwriter.

I'm in the middle of episode 7 and currently I've got only one wish: please, please don't let the mom from the past fall for her future son. No matter how pretty they look together this seriously ain't right.
I mean, I can take a lot when it comes to dramas, but this is just a tad too much, you know?

Honestly, it's rather boring imo. Might drop it soon.

I quite hate her. It's not her place to decide on her own what someone's sexuality is, for her own amusement and selfish desires. And it's all based on some shallow and insignificant criteria. She's playing with people's lives, which can mess with Doc's head and affect friendship between two doctors. I don't care if the Doc is gay or straight, but it's his business and not hers, and he should be allowed to figure it out on his own timetable. She's not a good ally to LGBTQIA community, she's just an annoying, disrespectful person, who treats queer people like playthings.

Aroace here, and yeah, I've been complaining about the same things you did, to my drama-watching friends, for a few weeks now. I didn't need them to have sex, kiss, hug or even hold hands. I just needed to feel something. Unfortunately that feeling disappeared a long time ago. I don't want to be told that people are in love, I want to sense that by watching them simply being together. When some main leads in Chinese, censored (!) dramas have a better chemistry and romantic tension, than couples in a Thai BL (that can do whatever they want, script-wise), that's the biggest problem for me. And therein lies the issue, GMM/writers don't care enough to check if maybe, maybe, fans actually don't want the same storylines over and over again. With those same obstacles, over and over again. It was good enough four years ago, so it must be good enough now, right? After all, people are still watching. Ummm, nope! The truth is, people were excited about this drama, because it promised them something different. So, changing the thing that fans cared about the most, was just plain stupid, and thus the backlash now. This is the same exact logic, like with those Chinese studios adapting successful BL novels, but cutting the romance part, or even adding a female love interest. What is the point, exactly? Oh yeah, making money from people that maybe will be disappointed, but will watch the drama, and then behind the scenes and countless interviews, buy the merch, mags, go to fanmeets...Honestly, what a waste.