He acts very well, whether it's a happy role or a sad, reflective one. I really appreciate that when he does BL, he goes all in and you don't see any hesitation on his part doing lovey-dovey scenes like you see with some other actors. I had watched him in "Bad Buddy" earlier and liked him, but I truly started appreciating his acting when I saw him in "He's Coming To Me." His acting and chemistry with Singto were amazing. Since then I've seen "The Shipper" and "Make It Right" too, and I truly believe Ohm can create chemistry with any actor. I'm rewatching "Bad Buddy" these days (it's my comfort show) and I'm noticing more and more how well and how naturally he acted. Some other actors would have made those same scenes seem inauthentic. It's really unfortunate that some Ohm-Nanon fans haven't been respectful of boundaries. I am worried Ohm may quit acting in BLs and we will lose a great actor. In the future, I hope instead of having a 'set-in-stone' ship, he continues to act in BL series with various acting partners. I have faith that he will act very well and have chemistry with all of them.
In episode 1, Pat's Line ID is PatInwza55+. There's an Easter egg here that may go unnoticed: In Thai internet culture (especially the early 2010s), this would have been seen as a cool username. If we break down "Inwza55+" we can see why. lnw: This is Thai "Leet" speak. When written together, the letters "lnw" look like the Thai word เทพ (Thep) which means "god." za: The word ซ่า (za or sa) is is a slang suffix that means "cool" or "badass." 55+: In Thai, the name for the number 5 is pronounced "ha." So, 55+ is "haha." The + just adds extra emphasis. Having a username like "patlnwza" (Pat-Thep-Za) is the equivalent of a gamer from 2010 having a username like EpicGod. It’s a "cool guy" username that has now become cringey, which fits Pat’s goofy, charming personality. It’s meant to show that Pat has probably used the same account since he was a middle-school gamer. This is why Pran calls him childish when he hears his Line ID for the first time.
Fr😭But I'll suffer myself to watch it, bcoz according to me, if I don't watch something completely, I don't…
I'm the same way! 😫 I recently started "To Sir, With Love" thinking it was a BL (just look at the name!) but it's actually a lakorn with a gay side character. It's okay but not my cup of tea. So the reason I am here is because I am literally searching for another show to start watching by looking up synopses and comments on different series. BUT I'm still going to watch more episodes of "To Sir, With Love" to see if it gets better 🥲
I can't believe this gem was sitting in my "plan to watch" list for way too long! 😭It was really good.…
I was scared to watch the final episode because I didn't want to lose Saenkaew and Sasin. I didn't want their story to end. I would miss them too greatly. But the series had such a wonderful ending; my heart is content and at peace. I still think about those two but I remember the final scene and know that they are happy. What an amazing series to make me care so much about fictional characters.
what is thai series obssession with giving sudden redemptions to the worst characters in the history of cinema?…
Filial piety and respecting parents (and elders in general) is still a thing in Asian cultures so I can understand why the drama showed the characters forgiving Kamfah. Honestly, I see the teaching of forgiveness as a good thing, though yes, Kamfah being willing to kill Sasin is egregious. He didn't try to kill Saenkaew; on the contrary, he only let Sasin live because of Saenkaew's threat of retaliatory suicide. You'll also notice that in this series, instead of Kamfah being motivated purely by homophobia (as we'd expect from a Western series), he was depicted as being secretly motivated by fear that his son would be mistreated if people found out he was gay. It promotes the idea prevalent in Asian cultures that parents are motivated by good intentions for their kids, even if the actions generated from those intentions are wrong and need rectifying.
I knew that rabbits were kind of a symbol for homosexuality (that is why you would see a ton of them in the untamed)…
From what I read, it is a historical slang term that was used in the spoken dialect of Beijing back in the Qing dynasty era for actors who played female roles (female impersonators). This usage likely stemmed from the ancient Chinese belief that rabbits could shift between male and female, or could reproduce without mating. It was also used as a slang term for men who had sex with men and men who had relationships with men during the Qing Dynasty.
Interestingly, the deity specifically associated with gay love in Chinese mythology is Tu'er Shen, which translates to "the Rabbit God." According to Qing dynasty scholar and poet Yuan Mei, Tu'er Shen was originally a mortal man named Hu Tianbao. He fell in love with a handsome imperial official. He was caught spying on the official and was beaten to death. Because his crime was committed out of love rather than malice, the officials of the Underworld decided to right the wrong by appointing him as a deity: the guardian of men who love men. By naming him the "Rabbit God," the legend took a derogatory slang term and elevated it to a divine title. It was a way for the community to reclaim the word and find spiritual protection under a name that the public already associated with them.
The rabbit has additional meanings in China. It is one of the twelve animals of the Chinese Zodiac and is generally seen as a symbol of grace, mercy, and luck.
Today, it is frequently used by Chinese people as a positive, patriotic self-identifier. The rabbit is used to symbolize China as being "harmless to humans and animals" (peaceful) but capable of "kicking" when provoked. Online, patriotic Chinese young people often refer to themselves as "rabbits" (兔友, tùyǒu).
The lotus seed scene was one of best scenes in the series. The lighting, the perfectly timed music, Sasin's deep slow-mo voice praising the seed as sweet, Saenkaew's face, the fact that Sasin let his intrusive thoughts win, the fact that such a simple act was so intimate. I kept replaying it in my mind for days 🥰
Summary of most of the below comments:"What if she didn't do it, though?""OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE…
What I saw:
"She couldn't possibly have done it because look how pretty she is and I liked her in the drama!" "There is a corroborating witness to the bullying incident and she lied about why she had to transfer schools so she seems guilty" "You want her to commit suicide, don't you? Some people commit suicide in Korea so we need to ignore anything bad she may have done and badmouth her accuser to keep her alive. How dare that accuser want an apology from her? How dare he counter-sue when she sued him first?"
Hey... Nothing is too sappy and cringe here. Actually really enjoy insightful and emotional comments like this…
Hello friend! I just finished watching "Stay With Me." Thank you so much for recommending it. I couldn't stop watching and I wish there were more episodes. I loved the family themes, I loved the love and care in Wu Bi's found family and I liked the messages communicated by the series.
This was my first time watching what MDL terms "censored adaptation of same-sex original work." There were times initially when I was watching and I thought "hmm...that's not something two dudes who are 'friends' or 'brothers' would typically do, seems to be venturing into romantic territory" and then I remembered it was a censored BL lol. But in later episodes, the series was so unmistakenly a BL and the romantic moments were heartwarming. The series acknowledge the existence of homosexuality, Chinese BL literature (danmei), BL fandom (loved the selfless and adorable fujoshi character!) and after episode 20, they even started hinting at a physical relationship between the two male leads and I thought how did this get past censorship? 😅 But I'm glad it did as it was wonderful. The leads were both very handsome (or "帅/shuài" as they kept being aptly called in the series) and their chemistry was amazing! I wish China made BLs more frequently. I would love to see Zhang Jiong Min and Xu Bin together in more series.
I read some comments on the series' MDL page criticizing the ending so it primed me for a tragic ending but, while I agree the ending could be better, I was relieved it was a cliffhanger and not a sad ending. I also understand now that this was just half the story and in the original novel, the story continues and ends on a happy note.
I was thinking of watching 'Addicted' after this series but I realized a few days ago that this is a toned down version of 'Addicted.' Which means I already know the plot of that series so now I'm not sure if I should 'Addicted' right away, or watch a Thai BL (to give me happy vibes after that heart-wrenching last episode of "Stay With Me") or maybe start another iconic Chinese BL like "The Untamed." 🙈
Regardless, thank you so much again for your empathetic comment above and for recommending "Stay With Me." ❤️
Actually, the "daughter-in-law" thing might be a translation issue? Because if I understand it correctly,…
Hello. I came across this link shared by user AquaticKiss above in this comments section which shows that Wu Suowei called himself the Mandarin Chinese term for aunt (or more precisely, mother's brother's "wife") when speaking with Duo Duo (Chi Cheng's sister's son): https://www.tumblr.com/secriden/791536741358125056/i-need-everyone-to-know-that-dou-dou-is-calling-wu So I think when talking to his own parents, Wu Suowei centred himself in the conversation and called Chi Cheng his "wife" but when talking to Chi Cheng's relative, he centred Chi Cheng and referred to himself as his "wife." No machismo involved.
A slight problem for my generalization though: Mandarin Chinese has different terms for "father-in-law" depending on whether the speaker is a man or a woman. Traditionally, 老丈人 (Lǎo zhàngrén) is what a man calls his wife's father while 公公 (gōnggong) is what a woman calls her husband's father. When Wu Suowei woke up after being kidnapped, he called Chi Cheng's father 老丈人 (Lǎo zhàngrén) but I think that term can be used by man for his husband's father too, because it doesn't contain any radical that means "wife" or "woman" (in contrast to, for example, 儿媳妇/érxífù which literally has the radical 女 meaning "woman" twice in its spelling).
BUT I don't know Mandarin, I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt. I'm just enjoying speculating why this or that word was used.
Sorry friend but how did you learn of that information?I saw a video yesterday which showed how he was edited…
I see. Thank you, I understand now. Then the rumour explanation for the censorship sounds quite plausible. Now that the "secret wife and kid" rumour has been laid to rest, I hope Tian Xuning does not face any further censorship and his career continues to soar. BL has a significant following in China and there are so many danmei stories that can be dramatized so I also wish that in the near future, Chinese authorities adopt a more tolerant attitude towards the BL genre and actors who perform in BL dramas.
I had watched him in "Bad Buddy" earlier and liked him, but I truly started appreciating his acting when I saw him in "He's Coming To Me." His acting and chemistry with Singto were amazing. Since then I've seen "The Shipper" and "Make It Right" too, and I truly believe Ohm can create chemistry with any actor. I'm rewatching "Bad Buddy" these days (it's my comfort show) and I'm noticing more and more how well and how naturally he acted. Some other actors would have made those same scenes seem inauthentic.
It's really unfortunate that some Ohm-Nanon fans haven't been respectful of boundaries. I am worried Ohm may quit acting in BLs and we will lose a great actor. In the future, I hope instead of having a 'set-in-stone' ship, he continues to act in BL series with various acting partners. I have faith that he will act very well and have chemistry with all of them.
lnw: This is Thai "Leet" speak. When written together, the letters "lnw" look like the Thai word เทพ (Thep) which means "god."
za: The word ซ่า (za or sa) is is a slang suffix that means "cool" or "badass."
55+: In Thai, the name for the number 5 is pronounced "ha." So, 55+ is "haha." The + just adds extra emphasis.
Having a username like "patlnwza" (Pat-Thep-Za) is the equivalent of a gamer from 2010 having a username like EpicGod. It’s a "cool guy" username that has now become cringey, which fits Pat’s goofy, charming personality. It’s meant to show that Pat has probably used the same account since he was a middle-school gamer. This is why Pran calls him childish when he hears his Line ID for the first time.
You'll also notice that in this series, instead of Kamfah being motivated purely by homophobia (as we'd expect from a Western series), he was depicted as being secretly motivated by fear that his son would be mistreated if people found out he was gay. It promotes the idea prevalent in Asian cultures that parents are motivated by good intentions for their kids, even if the actions generated from those intentions are wrong and need rectifying.
Interestingly, the deity specifically associated with gay love in Chinese mythology is Tu'er Shen, which translates to "the Rabbit God." According to Qing dynasty scholar and poet Yuan Mei, Tu'er Shen was originally a mortal man named Hu Tianbao. He fell in love with a handsome imperial official. He was caught spying on the official and was beaten to death. Because his crime was committed out of love rather than malice, the officials of the Underworld decided to right the wrong by appointing him as a deity: the guardian of men who love men. By naming him the "Rabbit God," the legend took a derogatory slang term and elevated it to a divine title. It was a way for the community to reclaim the word and find spiritual protection under a name that the public already associated with them.
The rabbit has additional meanings in China. It is one of the twelve animals of the Chinese Zodiac and is generally seen as a symbol of grace, mercy, and luck.
Today, it is frequently used by Chinese people as a positive, patriotic self-identifier. The rabbit is used to symbolize China as being "harmless to humans and animals" (peaceful) but capable of "kicking" when provoked. Online, patriotic Chinese young people often refer to themselves as "rabbits" (兔友, tùyǒu).
"She couldn't possibly have done it because look how pretty she is and I liked her in the drama!"
"There is a corroborating witness to the bullying incident and she lied about why she had to transfer schools so she seems guilty"
"You want her to commit suicide, don't you? Some people commit suicide in Korea so we need to ignore anything bad she may have done and badmouth her accuser to keep her alive. How dare that accuser want an apology from her? How dare he counter-sue when she sued him first?"
On a sidenote: Why did they sensor the joint of the thumb?
This was my first time watching what MDL terms "censored adaptation of same-sex original work." There were times initially when I was watching and I thought "hmm...that's not something two dudes who are 'friends' or 'brothers' would typically do, seems to be venturing into romantic territory" and then I remembered it was a censored BL lol.
But in later episodes, the series was so unmistakenly a BL and the romantic moments were heartwarming. The series acknowledge the existence of homosexuality, Chinese BL literature (danmei), BL fandom (loved the selfless and adorable fujoshi character!) and after episode 20, they even started hinting at a physical relationship between the two male leads and I thought how did this get past censorship? 😅 But I'm glad it did as it was wonderful. The leads were both very handsome (or "帅/shuài" as they kept being aptly called in the series) and their chemistry was amazing! I wish China made BLs more frequently. I would love to see Zhang Jiong Min and Xu Bin together in more series.
I read some comments on the series' MDL page criticizing the ending so it primed me for a tragic ending but, while I agree the ending could be better, I was relieved it was a cliffhanger and not a sad ending. I also understand now that this was just half the story and in the original novel, the story continues and ends on a happy note.
I was thinking of watching 'Addicted' after this series but I realized a few days ago that this is a toned down version of 'Addicted.' Which means I already know the plot of that series so now I'm not sure if I should 'Addicted' right away, or watch a Thai BL (to give me happy vibes after that heart-wrenching last episode of "Stay With Me") or maybe start another iconic Chinese BL like "The Untamed." 🙈
Regardless, thank you so much again for your empathetic comment above and for recommending "Stay With Me." ❤️
https://www.tumblr.com/secriden/791536741358125056/i-need-everyone-to-know-that-dou-dou-is-calling-wu
So I think when talking to his own parents, Wu Suowei centred himself in the conversation and called Chi Cheng his "wife" but when talking to Chi Cheng's relative, he centred Chi Cheng and referred to himself as his "wife." No machismo involved.
A slight problem for my generalization though: Mandarin Chinese has different terms for "father-in-law" depending on whether the speaker is a man or a woman. Traditionally, 老丈人 (Lǎo zhàngrén) is what a man calls his wife's father while 公公 (gōnggong) is what a woman calls her husband's father. When Wu Suowei woke up after being kidnapped, he called Chi Cheng's father 老丈人 (Lǎo zhàngrén) but I think that term can be used by man for his husband's father too, because it doesn't contain any radical that means "wife" or "woman" (in contrast to, for example, 儿媳妇/érxífù which literally has the radical 女 meaning "woman" twice in its spelling).
BUT I don't know Mandarin, I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt. I'm just enjoying speculating why this or that word was used.
Now that the "secret wife and kid" rumour has been laid to rest, I hope Tian Xuning does not face any further censorship and his career continues to soar.
BL has a significant following in China and there are so many danmei stories that can be dramatized so I also wish that in the near future, Chinese authorities adopt a more tolerant attitude towards the BL genre and actors who perform in BL dramas.