Idea for the series is not a big miracle, but it's nice, unfortunately what happened to most Thai BL series happened here as well, and that is - a bad realization. The beginning was cute, then the part of the story started where we saw a lot of weird elements. The part where Gene and Nubsib were children was very creepy. Especially when Gene's dad suspects there's something between the boys. It was very uncomfortable to watch. The second part is even weirder and that is that Gene forgot that Nubsib exists. So the two families are in contact, Gene knows Nubsib’s mother’s favorite cakes but he forgot that Nubsib exists. In all those years, he hadn't seen a picture in their house or, God forbid, he had met Nubsib once, because it turns out that in ten years, Nubsib never come to visit his parents. And then the parts that seemed to be inserted just to fill in the minutes started to line up. And everything lost its meaning. No character was likable. Gene is insecure and reacts as a child and not as an adult. For him, running away and giving up is the easiest solution. Worst of all, he didn’t have confidence in the love he felt for Nubsib. Nubsib is aggressive and manipulative. Love is not an excuse to lie. Aye is a very disgusting character. And the actor who played him unfortunately doesn’t know how to act, and even if the story around that character was good it would be hard to sympathize with him. Someone mentioned here that Aye is mentally ill. To be honest, I didn't experience his character that way. Aye is just a bad person. Everything he did was planned. If someone says: it didn’t turn out the way I planned it means that person consciously did it. We’ve seen him play a sad person all the time to fool people into loving him like that. He had no sincere emotion throughout the series.
The screenwriter inserted some interesting things that every BL fan would like to know if they are true or not, but then he seemed to change his mind and finally showed us Genes like Snow White, Cinderella and Juliet. Really?! That was the solution for the end? Too sad and too cheap
Longtae found him because when they talked at the waterfall, Tian said who he saw and that wanted to go to the…
That would be the only explanation, but it is still weak. I don't expect the script to be perfect to the last detail, but sometimes such nonsense really annoys me. Because Tian, who I don't know the way, managed to follow the smugglers in that darkness like a ninja ?
I was thrilled with the directing and editing in this series and then 8 episodes came and slapped me with all…
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He loved her as a sister, kept silent in front of the villagers about her death, for some fraternal reason called out Tian in front of the whole village. He feels something for Tian but he didn’t give him a chance to explain the whole thing, but out of “brotherly” love he made a series of wrong decisions. Okay, if that makes sense to you. Phupha didn’t seem to be in love with Torfun at first, and the whole story made sense to me, at least until he talked to Tian drunk. There Phupha hurt Tian on several levels. And he started with the sentence: drunk can't lie. And then he only talked about Torfun. That’s why I was confused because it looks like someone changed something in the script, and suddenly the story fell apart. But I still hope that Phupha will correct the thing with some spectacular declaration of love.
I was thrilled with the directing and editing in this series and then 8 episodes came and slapped me with all might. Simply amateurishly done ... a very important scene, shot in pitch darkness is the worst solution for series / movies.
But that’s just one of the problems in episode 8. The timeline is terrible. Tian followed those smugglers for a long time and Longtea had time to go to the village, return to the waterfall and then with the help of some higher force he managed to guess in which direction Tian went and still found him in that darkness. No, just not. If you're doing 7 episodes professionally, don't screw everything up now.
There are still a lot of things that are confusing but the biggest mystery to me is how did this story suddenly turn in the direction that Phupha was madly in love with Torfun?
Are toxic love relationships only in BL series?Whatever straight thai lacorn I watched the main female character…
We talk about consent in series and still in the world most countries do not recognize marital rape. Someone here said people are toxic and I totally agree with that.
This season 2 seems to be more problematic than the first. And sometimes I wonder : why are shows depicting toxic…
Are toxic love relationships only in BL series? Whatever straight thai lacorn I watched the main female character went through hell to get to a happy ending. In the first episode, either the main male character rapes her, or he plays a dangerous character who takes revenge on her family and mistreats her ....
You wonder why people like to watch series with toxic love affairs? Everyone here could give you a different answer. But they will give you an answer that they thinks is correct and not honest. It seems to me that people become hypersensitive to everything. It only seems right if couple flirt, hold hands for at least first three years, and then when the passion finally flares up twenty minutes before first kiss, they both say: I agree and sign the document. But in what part of the world? If we look at things that way, then all series / movies and love relationships in them are toxic.
You wonder why people like to watch toxic love affairs in BL series? Maybe it’s not about loving to watch, maybe watching because they’re going through something similar too and when series has a happy end it gives them hope. I bet that reason never crossed your mind.
And as you say you don't understand those people but you don't mind I will just say that this comment does not apply to you personaly. It’s not my intention to sound rude but there are so many fakes online and most have zero life experience and just write what they heard somewhere or someone told them it was right. And that has nothing to do with real life. Not to get me wrong, I support consent but so many people using that word now, that its value has dropped, I hope you know what I mean.
I can't shake impression that they changed something drastically in script. Phupha was sad at the funeral, but it was not the behavior of a man saying goodbye to a beloved woman.
But everything he said to Tian in episode 7 is shown as if he can’t forget Torfun. The pain on Tian's face said more than words. This is what a man whose heart is broken looks like.
I'll just mention the inspector who survived 14 episodes of that dangerously tight uniform .... If that's not super power then I don't know what is ...
Phupha moves the snail ... my first reaction: ooooooo and then :no, Phupha, don't do that !!! maybe snail wanted to cross to the other side !!. Maybe he trying to cross the street for days !!! Bad Phupha!!!
This series is a pleasant surprise ... although I wouldn't like them to emphasize the story about Torfun so much ... because if they continue with Torfun, they enter the gray phase for whom Phupha really has feelings ...
The only thing I will be grateful to Miss MaMe is that she paired Mew and Gulf at the audition. This will forever be a legendary couple and chemistry that only Tul and Max can match. (This refers to the Thai bl series) Everything else she did was for her ass. Although I can't blame her for that either, there is a saying in my country: as long as there are sheep, there will be money. You already know who the sheep are in this case. I adore Tharn and Type from the first season. Mew and Gulf inspired me to write a book of 50 chapters, they gave me the strength to share my TT universe with people and I will be forever grateful for that. The second season was supposed to be another gem in the crown that this legendary couple proudly wears, but unfortunately we saw what happened. I am Waanjai and Mewlions but that does not mean I will blindly defend Miss MaMe’s work. Everything was so bad that I just don’t know where to start. A lot has already been said in previous comments but what bothers me the most is that Type became a monk because of his mother and father. I am not Thai and may not understand the whole part, but it turns out that Type did not do it for himself and his spiritual purification but did it to atone for sin since he cannot give a grandchild to his mother and father. Is it a sin to love? Is it impossible to have a child in the 21st century if that’s what you really want (not for mom and dad but for yourself)? Can't gay couples adopt a child? Or to have children through a surrogate mother? Why is Miss MaMe writing nonsense and downgrading the series to the level of Teletabis?
The other thing that bothered me was how Tharn’s character was described this season. An urban young man from a good family, smart, successful becomes a jerk who thinks marriage is a guarantee that Type will stay with him for life. I don’t know if gay couples can legally get married in Thailand but a signature paper doesn’t guarantee you’ll be together forever.
There is so much wrong this season, that even now as I write this I feel like every nerve in my body is twitching and I have a desire to swear even though I am a lady and that is not exactly my habit. I hope Miss Mame has earned enough to be able to pay for some writing courses now.
In the end, the conclusion is that this series is actually a fanboying / homage to Sotus. Unfortunately, even this part was done sloppily ... Acting is debatable ... in the last couple of episodes they didn't even try to show anything ... bad acting, bad script, bad directing ... only the hairdresser did his job properly ...
This film leaves a bitter taste in your mouth ... On the one hand, the struggle and hell that the main characters went through is clear, their fear is almost palpable, but on the other hand, that fear cost them many years ...
And I didn't recognize Chris Wu ... I had to look to see if he showed up at all and then go back to that scene. Hell Chris, I thought you'd at least be the protagonist's other big love but ... brother? And straight..Hell no!
I thought this was one of those series where no words should be wasted. I still have that opinion because I have absolutely nothing nice to write about those 12 episodes, but ... I have to mention a scene from 12 episodes that shows how someone there didn't even bother to look at what he edited. The scene where everyone is sitting at a table in the university courtyard, Waan returns to Itt the earring Pai sent him ... it should be a sad, heartbreaking scene, full of meaning ... but then in the frame is Itt with his head down and laughing ! ??!? Wtf ??? I know there were a lot of omissions here, but this one just hit me ...
I have nothing against realistic endings but this one spoiled the overall impression of the series. So much is left unsaid. Some scenes didn’t really make much sense. This part when Vlad talks about ex? It doesn’t sound like a recollection but like something that happened the night before. Somehow I got completely lost there ... but overall it's not a bad series...
The beginning was cute, then the part of the story started where we saw a lot of weird elements.
The part where Gene and Nubsib were children was very creepy. Especially when Gene's dad suspects there's something between the boys. It was very uncomfortable to watch.
The second part is even weirder and that is that Gene forgot that Nubsib exists. So the two families are in contact, Gene knows Nubsib’s mother’s favorite cakes but he forgot that Nubsib exists. In all those years, he hadn't seen a picture in their house or, God forbid, he had met Nubsib once, because it turns out that in ten years, Nubsib never come to visit his parents. And then the parts that seemed to be inserted just to fill in the minutes started to line up. And everything lost its meaning. No character was likable. Gene is insecure and reacts as a child and not as an adult. For him, running away and giving up is the easiest solution. Worst of all, he didn’t have confidence in the love he felt for Nubsib.
Nubsib is aggressive and manipulative. Love is not an excuse to lie.
Aye is a very disgusting character. And the actor who played him unfortunately doesn’t know how to act, and even if the story around that character was good it would be hard to sympathize with him. Someone mentioned here that Aye is mentally ill. To be honest, I didn't experience his character that way. Aye is just a bad person. Everything he did was planned. If someone says: it didn’t turn out the way I planned it means that person consciously did it. We’ve seen him play a sad person all the time to fool people into loving him like that. He had no sincere emotion throughout the series.
The screenwriter inserted some interesting things that every BL fan would like to know if they are true or not, but then he seemed to change his mind and finally showed us Genes like Snow White, Cinderella and Juliet. Really?! That was the solution for the end? Too sad and too cheap
He loved her as a sister, kept silent in front of the villagers about her death, for some fraternal reason called out Tian in front of the whole village. He feels something for Tian but he didn’t give him a chance to explain the whole thing, but out of “brotherly” love he made a series of wrong decisions. Okay, if that makes sense to you.
Phupha didn’t seem to be in love with Torfun at first, and the whole story made sense to me, at least until he talked to Tian drunk. There Phupha hurt Tian on several levels. And he started with the sentence: drunk can't lie. And then he only talked about Torfun. That’s why I was confused because it looks like someone changed something in the script, and suddenly the story fell apart. But I still hope that Phupha will correct the thing with some spectacular declaration of love.
But that’s just one of the problems in episode 8. The timeline is terrible. Tian followed those smugglers for a long time and Longtea had time to go to the village, return to the waterfall and then with the help of some higher force he managed to guess in which direction Tian went and still found him in that darkness. No, just not. If you're doing 7 episodes professionally, don't screw everything up now.
There are still a lot of things that are confusing but the biggest mystery to me is how did this story suddenly turn in the direction that Phupha was madly in love with Torfun?
Whatever straight thai lacorn I watched the main female character went through hell to get to a happy ending. In the first episode, either the main male character rapes her, or he plays a dangerous character who takes revenge on her family and mistreats her ....
You wonder why people like to watch series with toxic love affairs? Everyone here could give you a different answer. But they will give you an answer that they thinks is correct and not honest. It seems to me that people become hypersensitive to everything. It only seems right if couple flirt, hold hands for at least first three years, and then when the passion finally flares up twenty minutes before first kiss, they both say: I agree and sign the document. But in what part of the world?
If we look at things that way, then all series / movies and love relationships in them are toxic.
You wonder why people like to watch toxic love affairs in BL series? Maybe it’s not about loving to watch, maybe watching because they’re going through something similar too and when series has a happy end it gives them hope. I bet that reason never crossed your mind.
And as you say you don't understand those people but you don't mind I will just say that this comment does not apply to you personaly. It’s not my intention to sound rude but there are so many fakes online and most have zero life experience and just write what they heard somewhere or someone told them it was right. And that has nothing to do with real life. Not to get me wrong, I support consent but so many people using that word now, that its value has dropped, I hope you know what I mean.
But everything he said to Tian in episode 7 is shown as if he can’t forget Torfun. The pain on Tian's face said more than words. This is what a man whose heart is broken looks like.
and then :no, Phupha, don't do that !!! maybe snail wanted to cross to the other side !!. Maybe he trying to cross the street for days !!! Bad Phupha!!!
This series is a pleasant surprise ... although I wouldn't like them to emphasize the story about Torfun so much ... because if they continue with Torfun, they enter the gray phase for whom Phupha really has feelings ...
This will forever be a legendary couple and chemistry that only Tul and Max can match. (This refers to the Thai bl series) Everything else she did was for her ass. Although I can't blame her for that either, there is a saying in my country: as long as there are sheep, there will be money. You already know who the sheep are in this case.
I adore Tharn and Type from the first season. Mew and Gulf inspired me to write a book of 50 chapters, they gave me the strength to share my TT universe with people and I will be forever grateful for that.
The second season was supposed to be another gem in the crown that this legendary couple proudly wears, but unfortunately we saw what happened. I am Waanjai and Mewlions but that does not mean I will blindly defend Miss MaMe’s work.
Everything was so bad that I just don’t know where to start.
A lot has already been said in previous comments but what bothers me the most is that Type became a monk because of his mother and father. I am not Thai and may not understand the whole part, but it turns out that Type did not do it for himself and his spiritual purification but did it to atone for sin since he cannot give a grandchild to his mother and father. Is it a sin to love? Is it impossible to have a child in the 21st century if that’s what you really want (not for mom and dad but for yourself)? Can't gay couples adopt a child? Or to have children through a surrogate mother? Why is Miss MaMe writing nonsense and downgrading the series to the level of Teletabis?
The other thing that bothered me was how Tharn’s character was described this season. An urban young man from a good family, smart, successful becomes a jerk who thinks marriage is a guarantee that Type will stay with him for life. I don’t know if gay couples can legally get married in Thailand but a signature paper doesn’t guarantee you’ll be together forever.
There is so much wrong this season, that even now as I write this I feel like every nerve in my body is twitching and I have a desire to swear even though I am a lady and that is not exactly my habit.
I hope Miss Mame has earned enough to be able to pay for some writing courses now.
Acting is debatable ... in the last couple of episodes they didn't even try to show anything ... bad acting, bad script, bad directing ... only the hairdresser did his job properly ...
And I didn't recognize Chris Wu ... I had to look to see if he showed up at all and then go back to that scene. Hell Chris, I thought you'd at least be the protagonist's other big love but ... brother? And straight..Hell no!
The scene where everyone is sitting at a table in the university courtyard, Waan returns to Itt the earring Pai sent him ... it should be a sad, heartbreaking scene, full of meaning ... but then in the frame is Itt with his head down and laughing ! ??!? Wtf ??? I know there were a lot of omissions here, but this one just hit me ...