From TX’s POV, she said that TY did lead her on, making her misunderstanding that he has same feelings as her…
@sunsky Such a great conversation. It is great to agree and disagree.
I do agree with your sentiments with regards to the book. I do believe that LXH should be the one to do it because he read it, he understands where she is coming from and basically wants to do it justice. I think the TY is a day late and a dollar short with trying to do something now with only offering to help invest. His loss. But I will still standby that I feel that something is going to happen on LXH part that will break TX's trust in him, and she will need TY to help.
I did state that I felt he was NOT blameless in all of her "stalking" that she did to him. I mean, if not having a wall full of his photos isn't stalking a person, well...I don't know. That is definitely beyond liking that is for sure. He, too, should have nipped it in the bud and STOPPED asking her for help and relying on her even though SHE was the one that always put it out there. Especially when he called about the cat. She should have said, "I can't help you. Take it to a vet. I can advise you, but I can't help you." But both were at fault.
The thing that gets me is that she put 4 years basically into a man that really didn't see her as she wanted him to see him. She was crazy enough to help him win a gf. Really? Again, everything she did she CHOSE to do. But he as you said, knew she had feelings for him and should have stopped right then or confessed sooner so that she would not have had to go through this emotional turmoil and furthermore for TY not to be caught up and mislead her.
Now the shoe is on the other foot and now he is living next door which is him trying to win her over. This as you said is going to be interesting to see how much effort and what lengths he is going to go too. Well, moving next door to me is huge. Who can afford to have another place, oh wait, I forgot he is worth millions...LOL!
From TX’s POV, she said that TY did lead her on, making her misunderstanding that he has same feelings as her…
@sunsky In my opinion, TX chose to believe and put herself at TY's disposal. Everything within the company and outside, she did of her own volition. She really was borderline stalking him in a roundabout way. How was TY giving her false hope? The book? She could have pulled that book from him at any given time, again, she chose to believe and was so obsessed with him personally and not thinking professionally to make a conscious decision that it was going nowhere with TY in either way. She chose to leave that book there for 4 years. But how long do you believe someone, she needed to step up like she is now and move on.
Again, she chose to do these things, he did not ask. It's like she made herself available all the time. Every time he turned around, she was there. Bringing him food, waiting for him on the elevator, giving him a ride home. So, who is at fault? She is for always being available and at his beck and call. But on the flip side, he also chose to take what she was offering without thinking anything further, meaning how she felt. Misinterpretation I feel is more on her side than his. But he is not blameless either. He could have made it clear many times by not calling her, giving her back the book and asking others for help.
Agreed, she needed to express herself better. Her confession to me sucked big time. I mean she dressed the part, but her execution was terrible. His response could have been better with the words he chose. I would have asked on my end, what is unsuitable but at that point your mind goes blank, and you chose anger and lashing out to hurt him more than listening to anything further, hence her going back to kiss him.
At this point, she is not making herself look good to me. She needs to stop being so mad. You can tell every time he is near her or within her vicinity, she has anger written all over her. She needs to stop that because she is still letting him know how much it bothers her about what transpired between them. Let it go. It's his turn now and she now gets to decide when she is ready to accept what he is offering.
But now, TY needs to make sure if he is coming to her that he needs to accept the fact that she may not be willing to take what he is offering just because now he feels he is ready to do so. He needs to make sure if he is stepping towards her that he is doing it honestly and sincerely. This is not about the book but about his personal feelings that he has for her. He has to learn to separate the two. I understand he is very straight lace and work oriented, but he needs to be able to express himself to her wholeheartedly. Moving next door to her now, he has turned into the stalker that she was to him.
But at the end of the day, I am still not 100% trusting LZX. Just something, I can't put my finger on it, but he is going to do something.
It not actually a rejection if you look at it the ML ask her twice why you love me? And she twice said because…
@ShubhamSingh yes, but in her mind she is taking it as a rejection. I understand what you are saying. But to her, he rejected her. Hence her to continue to be pissed off and act rebellious as she stated she was going to be. Even though he wanted her to say truly how she felt, she was still upset with him. She was never going to state her feelings. If he read her book, I believe she thought he would read between the lines regarding her answer.
Well, this an interesting drama. Miles is really hitting these dramas this year! Go Miles!
Now, I did not like HRY in Wulin Heroes and I dropped Blooming but in here she is doing well. I like how she took control and just planted that kiss on him big time. Oh, and she was not relenting either.
But for 1400 days she stayed loyal to him. If you look at all the pictures and everything she did, it was almost to the point of stalking him. I get it that he rejected her. But she got to the put that she was just being cruel and mean after the rejection. Everyone has been rejected in their life and she is no different. She was the one that silently invested all of her time and energy in him without voicing how she felt before going this far. But when she decided when she wanted to confess and he rejected her well, I honestly feel in my opinion she became vindictive towards him because she felt that he would reciprocate her feelings and he didn't. Which led to her resigning and not so much for him feeling uncomfortable but herself feeling that way.
I would have thought the same thing when she gave LZX the rights to her book. There is something about him that I really do not trust. I can't put my finger on it, but something is not kosher with him. Is it another getting one up on TY. They seem to have always been in competition so is this just now something to rub TY's nose in?
TDD and that whining has to stop. I could not stand that whining that she was doing. Give that girl a job and learn responsibility for goodness' sake. TY just gives her a card to shop. What does she do?
GH is so cute as TY's right hand. He just chills. He kept getting money deducted...lol!
Enjoying so far. I hope they keep up the pacing and good writing for this drama.
Can I say this drama just keeps getting better. When it is over, I won't want it to be. There is just too much going on that we need closure on.
I hope the consistency that we have seen throughout this drama is maintained in the last two episodes. It has been so well executed not only in the writing but in the performances as well.
I have to say, I had to crack up when QLZ confronted SY while carrying her box in the garage. Can we say fired? Girlfriend should have just not said anything to him. I was cracking up. He was too serious.
"You may not know me well; I don't have a good personality. I'm very self-centered. If you keep pissing me off, I will take revenge for Zheng Shu Yi too. Do you understand?"
Love the music they have for him and the 6666 on the car just stop! My SY! He is all that.
Yes, go back snatch up ZSY and just do what you need to do SY! Now he is hitting his stride.
But again, we need now as we have all said numerous times QIYI and Viki just release all of the remaining episodes. Stop dragging it all with one episode a day.
So far, I'm still out on this one. It reminds me of Durian's Affair. The beginning part along the same lines with coming into 2023. I feel in Durian's Affair they were not that over the top with being amazed at some of the things they encountered as opposed to PYW. I feel like PYW is sometimes over playing it too much when she is surprised at things but sometimes, she downplays where I thinks she should be a bit more curious or surprised.
I think that KTH is not asking anything about her. How did she fall into the pool? He didn't even ask her name until she told him. Why was she wearing those clothes? Where does she live? I mean common sense questions which he never even asks mainly where her identification is, nothing. They just say she will be "Vanessa", but they aren't even curious to know who she is. I mean, he wants her to play the part of his wife, but he knows absolutely nothing about her and vice versa.
Then when all the money went flying in the air, no one went to grab it. They just let it fall to the ground. When she was staring at the girls when they were eating and she was hungry, she could have gone in to get some food, she had money. She had not lost it all.
He evidently wrecked his car in the garage, but how did he managed to get there so fast. Is the grandfather the reincarnation of him he died, and he remembers her now that he sees her again.
Again, I am still out on this one. I'm glad it is only 12 episodes.
Well, this episode was all about LJH aka Morticia getting spanked left and right! Yes!
We all knew that the cooking teacher was HYJ's mother so that was no surprise there.
But let me tell you, if I had a husband like SDG, gurl, I would be clinging, do you hear clinging to him all the time. That man is so fire. And to know he has HYJ's back like that, he makes me love him even more. Best line he said, "Right now, I could tear her to death, and it wouldn't be enough. But I can't do that. So, I thought, what ways to torture Morticia? What could be her worst fear?" Ok, SDG is not even playing. I know if he could Morticia would be gone for real.
Then we have LBJ (grandpa) aka Dr. Emmett Brown from Back to the Future, looking all crazy when he was strangling Morticia because he just can't stand her. Who can? You know he wasn't signing no papers. Why did she even go there?
But HYR is really pushing the envelope with YSH aka Mr. Whipped. The way she talked to him, and he still takes it is beyond my understanding. But he looks like he is walking away from her and his job. But I do believe if she comes begging back, he will forget everything and help her because he is so whipped. And his sister who thought HYR was her friend, well, she found out she is marrying SDG's brother. So, all her conniving with her led her where...nowhere. But wait, that is both of them! They got nothing. Thanks for playing!
Now it is really kicking into high gear with the knowledge of HYR being pregnant and we all know that YSH aka Mr. Whipped, is the father. But if she slept with SJW, he would believe it is his.
Let me be clear when HJW finds out all the sneaky, shady, stuff that Morticia did, man, I hate to be her, especially if he finds out his ex is alive. I wouldn't want to be her. Wonder how she will talk her way out of that.
Morticia's ex-husband is not even playing her game because he doesn't want to go to jail again, but if she pushes enough money in his face, he may relent.
What is up with KJW when SDG ask him why he was helping them and what he had against Morticia, he just said it was family related...hmmm. What does that mean?
How can it be that we only have 3 episodes left? This drama is too good. My guilty pleasure.
I honestly was like “ how did those kisses make It through?”
@SakuraDream right? I was seeing, don't know about you, but some SERIOUS lips moving when he was kissing her. He was by no means shying away from giving her deep meaningful ones!
I have finished this drama including the special. I must say I was definitely impressed. Everything was on point, in my opinion. Great storyline, well-execution of all performances by the entire cast. It thoroughly kept me involved from beginning to end. Highly and definitely one to recommend.
But can we talk about XW and those kisses. I'm sorry but those were definitely serious and on point with all the kisses they shared. High fiving on that.
And I was LOVING, LOVING me some Yan Lin. He could be my general and lead me anytime!
All and all definitely worthy of the praise it is and should receive. Loved the OST. Kudos to the writers/directors and all those behind the scenes giving us this well-crafted drama!
Stop playing IQIYI just give me the rest of the episodes, PLEASE! I need to be put out of my misery of this drama. Here I go!
Would you please tell me why she is acting so pitiful? To be such a good writer, she is just clueless until you just want to slap her. I have to give her credit that she did FINALLY tell him her feelings, but he is still hesitate I think but that is his personality to be cautious especially due to what she did.
Now, Yi Yang, BOY BYE! How many ways does she need to tell him? First, when he asks her out to eat, she just should have said, NO! Is that so hard? You really do not need to sit over a meal to have the same redundant conversation. You saw the look he gave her when she said they reconciled. Yi Yang just wants to win against SY, bottom line. He just sees ZSY as a "trophy" to take away from SY.
But what I don't like is he keeps telling her it is his business if he wants to pursue her. Hold up! Hell, yeah it is my business because guess what? YOU ARE BOTHERING ME, STALKING ME, WORKING MY NERVES. Fly be free and go bother someone else. Get a new target! Then the dumb ass that she is, 'Yeah, we can meet up to eat." Gurl, you just told him that you have reconciled with you man. WTH, do you want to share a meal with a man who has told you he likes you, pursuing you and is SY nemesis. Are you stupid or what? Stay away from him and relish your relationship that you have with SY! I cannot with her. Can I just go into this drama and tell her what she needs to do? It is beyond annoying to see her continued stupidity with this guy.
Why is it that all the other relationships are mended but we are still 5 episodes out and still dealing with them still not truly together. Yeah, they reconciled but you saw Yi Yang put doubt in her head telling her that he found it to easy that he forgave her and now she is questioning it. She did come up with a good response to him, but I think she is still thinking about if he really has forgiven her.
What is up with ZSY's ex rolling up into SY's company? I can only imagine what he will do.
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After reading some of the comments, please tell me they won't follow the original. I can't take it. It is beautifully done so far.
Such a great conversation. It is great to agree and disagree.
I do agree with your sentiments with regards to the book. I do believe that LXH should be the one to do it because he read it, he understands where she is coming from and basically wants to do it justice. I think the TY is a day late and a dollar short with trying to do something now with only offering to help invest. His loss. But I will still standby that I feel that something is going to happen on LXH part that will break TX's trust in him, and she will need TY to help.
I did state that I felt he was NOT blameless in all of her "stalking" that she did to him. I mean, if not having a wall full of his photos isn't stalking a person, well...I don't know. That is definitely beyond liking that is for sure. He, too, should have nipped it in the bud and STOPPED asking her for help and relying on her even though SHE was the one that always put it out there. Especially when he called about the cat. She should have said, "I can't help you. Take it to a vet. I can advise you, but I can't help you." But both were at fault.
The thing that gets me is that she put 4 years basically into a man that really didn't see her as she wanted him to see him. She was crazy enough to help him win a gf. Really? Again, everything she did she CHOSE to do. But he as you said, knew she had feelings for him and should have stopped right then or confessed sooner so that she would not have had to go through this emotional turmoil and furthermore for TY not to be caught up and mislead her.
Now the shoe is on the other foot and now he is living next door which is him trying to win her over. This as you said is going to be interesting to see how much effort and what lengths he is going to go too. Well, moving next door to me is huge. Who can afford to have another place, oh wait, I forgot he is worth millions...LOL!
In my opinion, TX chose to believe and put herself at TY's disposal. Everything within the company and outside, she did of her own volition. She really was borderline stalking him in a roundabout way. How was TY giving her false hope? The book? She could have pulled that book from him at any given time, again, she chose to believe and was so obsessed with him personally and not thinking professionally to make a conscious decision that it was going nowhere with TY in either way. She chose to leave that book there for 4 years. But how long do you believe someone, she needed to step up like she is now and move on.
Again, she chose to do these things, he did not ask. It's like she made herself available all the time. Every time he turned around, she was there. Bringing him food, waiting for him on the elevator, giving him a ride home. So, who is at fault? She is for always being available and at his beck and call. But on the flip side, he also chose to take what she was offering without thinking anything further, meaning how she felt. Misinterpretation I feel is more on her side than his. But he is not blameless either. He could have made it clear many times by not calling her, giving her back the book and asking others for help.
Agreed, she needed to express herself better. Her confession to me sucked big time. I mean she dressed the part, but her execution was terrible. His response could have been better with the words he chose. I would have asked on my end, what is unsuitable but at that point your mind goes blank, and you chose anger and lashing out to hurt him more than listening to anything further, hence her going back to kiss him.
At this point, she is not making herself look good to me. She needs to stop being so mad. You can tell every time he is near her or within her vicinity, she has anger written all over her. She needs to stop that because she is still letting him know how much it bothers her about what transpired between them. Let it go. It's his turn now and she now gets to decide when she is ready to accept what he is offering.
But now, TY needs to make sure if he is coming to her that he needs to accept the fact that she may not be willing to take what he is offering just because now he feels he is ready to do so. He needs to make sure if he is stepping towards her that he is doing it honestly and sincerely. This is not about the book but about his personal feelings that he has for her. He has to learn to separate the two. I understand he is very straight lace and work oriented, but he needs to be able to express himself to her wholeheartedly. Moving next door to her now, he has turned into the stalker that she was to him.
But at the end of the day, I am still not 100% trusting LZX. Just something, I can't put my finger on it, but he is going to do something.
Now, I did not like HRY in Wulin Heroes and I dropped Blooming but in here she is doing well. I like how she took control and just planted that kiss on him big time. Oh, and she was not relenting either.
But for 1400 days she stayed loyal to him. If you look at all the pictures and everything she did, it was almost to the point of stalking him. I get it that he rejected her. But she got to the put that she was just being cruel and mean after the rejection. Everyone has been rejected in their life and she is no different. She was the one that silently invested all of her time and energy in him without voicing how she felt before going this far. But when she decided when she wanted to confess and he rejected her well, I honestly feel in my opinion she became vindictive towards him because she felt that he would reciprocate her feelings and he didn't. Which led to her resigning and not so much for him feeling uncomfortable but herself feeling that way.
I would have thought the same thing when she gave LZX the rights to her book. There is something about him that I really do not trust. I can't put my finger on it, but something is not kosher with him. Is it another getting one up on TY. They seem to have always been in competition so is this just now something to rub TY's nose in?
TDD and that whining has to stop. I could not stand that whining that she was doing. Give that girl a job and learn responsibility for goodness' sake. TY just gives her a card to shop. What does she do?
GH is so cute as TY's right hand. He just chills. He kept getting money deducted...lol!
Enjoying so far. I hope they keep up the pacing and good writing for this drama.
I hope the consistency that we have seen throughout this drama is maintained in the last two episodes. It has been so well executed not only in the writing but in the performances as well.
"You may not know me well; I don't have a good personality. I'm very self-centered. If you keep pissing me off, I will take revenge for Zheng Shu Yi too. Do you understand?"
Love the music they have for him and the 6666 on the car just stop! My SY! He is all that.
Yes, go back snatch up ZSY and just do what you need to do SY! Now he is hitting his stride.
But again, we need now as we have all said numerous times QIYI and Viki just release all of the remaining episodes. Stop dragging it all with one episode a day.
I think that KTH is not asking anything about her. How did she fall into the pool? He didn't even ask her name until she told him. Why was she wearing those clothes? Where does she live? I mean common sense questions which he never even asks mainly where her identification is, nothing. They just say she will be "Vanessa", but they aren't even curious to know who she is. I mean, he wants her to play the part of his wife, but he knows absolutely nothing about her and vice versa.
Then when all the money went flying in the air, no one went to grab it. They just let it fall to the ground. When she was staring at the girls when they were eating and she was hungry, she could have gone in to get some food, she had money. She had not lost it all.
He evidently wrecked his car in the garage, but how did he managed to get there so fast. Is the grandfather the reincarnation of him he died, and he remembers her now that he sees her again.
Again, I am still out on this one. I'm glad it is only 12 episodes.
We all knew that the cooking teacher was HYJ's mother so that was no surprise there.
But let me tell you, if I had a husband like SDG, gurl, I would be clinging, do you hear clinging to him all the time. That man is so fire. And to know he has HYJ's back like that, he makes me love him even more. Best line he said, "Right now, I could tear her to death, and it wouldn't be enough. But I can't do that. So, I thought, what ways to torture Morticia? What could be her worst fear?" Ok, SDG is not even playing. I know if he could Morticia would be gone for real.
Then we have LBJ (grandpa) aka Dr. Emmett Brown from Back to the Future, looking all crazy when he was strangling Morticia because he just can't stand her. Who can? You know he wasn't signing no papers. Why did she even go there?
But HYR is really pushing the envelope with YSH aka Mr. Whipped. The way she talked to him, and he still takes it is beyond my understanding. But he looks like he is walking away from her and his job. But I do believe if she comes begging back, he will forget everything and help her because he is so whipped. And his sister who thought HYR was her friend, well, she found out she is marrying SDG's brother. So, all her conniving with her led her where...nowhere. But wait, that is both of them! They got nothing. Thanks for playing!
Now it is really kicking into high gear with the knowledge of HYR being pregnant and we all know that YSH aka Mr. Whipped, is the father. But if she slept with SJW, he would believe it is his.
Let me be clear when HJW finds out all the sneaky, shady, stuff that Morticia did, man, I hate to be her, especially if he finds out his ex is alive. I wouldn't want to be her. Wonder how she will talk her way out of that.
Morticia's ex-husband is not even playing her game because he doesn't want to go to jail again, but if she pushes enough money in his face, he may relent.
What is up with KJW when SDG ask him why he was helping them and what he had against Morticia, he just said it was family related...hmmm. What does that mean?
How can it be that we only have 3 episodes left? This drama is too good. My guilty pleasure.
But can we talk about XW and those kisses. I'm sorry but those were definitely serious and on point with all the kisses they shared. High fiving on that.
And I was LOVING, LOVING me some Yan Lin. He could be my general and lead me anytime!
All and all definitely worthy of the praise it is and should receive. Loved the OST. Kudos to the writers/directors and all those behind the scenes giving us this well-crafted drama!
Would you please tell me why she is acting so pitiful? To be such a good writer, she is just clueless until you just want to slap her. I have to give her credit that she did FINALLY tell him her feelings, but he is still hesitate I think but that is his personality to be cautious especially due to what she did.
Now, Yi Yang, BOY BYE! How many ways does she need to tell him? First, when he asks her out to eat, she just should have said, NO! Is that so hard? You really do not need to sit over a meal to have the same redundant conversation. You saw the look he gave her when she said they reconciled. Yi Yang just wants to win against SY, bottom line. He just sees ZSY as a "trophy" to take away from SY.
But what I don't like is he keeps telling her it is his business if he wants to pursue her. Hold up! Hell, yeah it is my business because guess what? YOU ARE BOTHERING ME, STALKING ME, WORKING MY NERVES. Fly be free and go bother someone else. Get a new target! Then the dumb ass that she is, 'Yeah, we can meet up to eat." Gurl, you just told him that you have reconciled with you man. WTH, do you want to share a meal with a man who has told you he likes you, pursuing you and is SY nemesis. Are you stupid or what? Stay away from him and relish your relationship that you have with SY! I cannot with her. Can I just go into this drama and tell her what she needs to do? It is beyond annoying to see her continued stupidity with this guy.
Why is it that all the other relationships are mended but we are still 5 episodes out and still dealing with them still not truly together. Yeah, they reconciled but you saw Yi Yang put doubt in her head telling her that he found it to easy that he forgave her and now she is questioning it. She did come up with a good response to him, but I think she is still thinking about if he really has forgiven her.
What is up with ZSY's ex rolling up into SY's company? I can only imagine what he will do.