It's like we watched two completely different dramas, LOL. So, JJM did train her to save herself, but he's a VERY…
No, they didn't train her; they "trained" her. They let her stumble her way into incidentally learning a few things. She was seventeen-years-old before she began fight conditioning with Pasin, which she paid for and that she only began because she was eager to move out of her Uncle's home. What if she'd been perfectly content living there? Jinman showed zero signs that he was planning to teach her combat skills, ever (the girl couldn't even throw a proper punch after nearly a decade under his care). And Jinman didn't bother putting a gun in her hand until she demonstrated interest in being a better sling-shotter. She didn't miss that long-range shot because it was a difficult shot; she missed because the man who could've taught her to make that difficult shot failed to do so.
Further, she almost got herself knifed, shot, cut, and killed in a series of hand-to-hand interactions with the trained mercenaries trying to kill her, and each time she was saved by an outside force. Why? Because her Uncle didn't train her to fight their actual enemies, he trained her to battle a self-realization between the id and the ego. Even he flat-out told her that her combat training with Pasin wasn't good enough to handle a punk with a knife in an alley; what did he expect her to do when confronted with a bloodthirsty sociopath trained via conscription and hardened as a killer-for-hire?
It doesn't matter whether Jinman didn't want her to become a mercenary/be an assassin; that is completely immaterial to making sure she is capable of equivalent self-defense when violent, well-equipped, well-paid mercenaries/assassins are attempting to off her. And the excuse of he wanted her to live a normal life isn't even supported by the actual story; he told her upfront that he can't be her parent, and she developed a whole "get the hell out of this house" plan specifically because he deprived her of a normal life (for which he was not one bit sorry, as he reminds her that she should distrust surface presentation and probe deeper).
There was also no reason for Jinman to wait to have Ji Ahn make a "choice" about her future while she was actively trying not to die for reasons she didn't understand in a battle zone for which she wasn't prepared. There was absolutely no reason he couldn't have explained their situation to her while she was growing up. The child and teen versions of Ji Ahn we saw would not have spent life afraid of shadows just because they knew the truth; they would've lived deliberately, smartly, with the full knowledge of their situation and the proper preparation for handling it, whether that life meant staying and inheriting the family business, or changing her identity and cutting ties with Jinman forever (which was apparently an option all along).
THAT is the problem with the whole series. Jinman is the kind of smart where he would force immersive training and complete knowledge on his Niece because she'd need it to survive. In fact, given how the rest of their family was brutally murdered, in part, because they had zero knowledge of what was going on, it would be more likely that he would be even more insistent on preparing Ji Ahn to survive, even if she resisted it the whole way.
The only reason Jinman didn't prepare Ji Ahn to be able to contend with what she faced is because the script said so; the story doesn't happen unless Jinman makes the unbelievably idiotic decision to NOT provide the necessary level of training, education, or knowledge that Ji Ahn needs. It's an egregiously dumb plot device designed purely to force the story to happen the way it does, eschewing all logic and common sense in the process, and actively working against the character Jinman is presented as being (both by his actions and by how other characters describe him).
What would've made a better story: Jinman provides Ji Ahn with everything she needs to potentially be the victor, but Ji Ahn struggles with the idea that she could be a killer, that she could let others die for her, that she is capable of leading anyone in a fight to the death, or that she could in good conscience maintain a relationship with Jinman, who holds a level of responsibility for the death of her parents, her childhood trauma, and the uncertainty of her own future.
There was a lot of potential meat on that bone but we wasted time with such silly gristle.
Automatically awarded one star for having zero romance, one star for lovely bloody violence, and three stars for Lee Dong Wook.
Episodes 6 and 7 were the best parts of what could've been a fun if clichéd and predictable revenge actioner. Unfortunately, instead of a tightly-paced, sensible movie, we're left with a deeply disappointing and aggravatingly idiotic series that was somehow too short and entirely too long.
The major problem is that in order for the plot conceit to work, it requires the smartest character in the show to be a complete dumbass. Sure, you want your Niece to be a competent and self-reliant survivor; why did you not equip her with the skills and tools to be so? Trite philosophical musings are not training. When you joined the military, they didn't just plop you in a warzone with a copy of "Sun Tzu for Beginners" and tell you to figure it out. They taught and repeatedly drilled you on a comprehensive curriculum of combat skills, strategic and tacical thinking, how to efficiently use an array of weapons, unit leadership and coordination, and—this is a big one—they provided you with actionable operational intel.
You had at least ten years to prepare your Niece for this battle that you knew was inevitable. Ten years to provide her skills and knowledge, and maybe you don't want to blow her tiny mind with all your gory dark secrets all at once but you could've slow-dripped some of this massively critical information about people trying to kill her, why they're trying to kill her, the protocols preventing them from doing so while you're still alive, and the plan-of-action for keeping her alive once you're dead. Oh, and she could've spent some of those years thoroughly studying that handover manual and learning about your allies and network instead of being forced to panic cram a giant info dump while a legion of mercenaries with an endless military arsenal are trying to shoot her in the goddamn face.
What your lot did with Minhye? That. You should've done that with your Niece.
And if it was so easy to give your Niece a new identity and life, why didn't you just do that in the first place if you weren't going to bother preparing her to survive and thrive in your world?
Just what the actual fuck, Jinman? Your Niece is alive as a result of mostly dumb luck and tactical homesteading, you stupid bastard. If I were your Niece and you walked out of your grave after all that, I'd shoot you in the kneecaps.
And speaking of Ji Ahn, her character regression was confusing as hell. I was impressed by child Ji Ahn, and teen Ji Ahn had serious can-do gumption. Who was the trembling, screaming, skittish changeling that we were forced to endure in young adult Ji Ahn? I was ready to just let her die by the end.
Good grief, I am so mad at the both of them. Their combined stupid is also responsible for getting characters I liked needlessly maimed and/or killed.
How did Ji Ahn manage to get stupider with age? The child and teenage versions of her were clever, brave, assertive, and fundamentally capable. What the hell happened? Granted, I'm only on episode four and a load of truly traumatic shite has gone down but it just feels like Child Ji Ahn or Teen Ji Ahn would've pulled themselves together already and not be making such wildly dumb decisions.
Perhaps that's why they wrote in a line about her being "impulsive" rather than analytical like her Uncle but, frankly, Young Adult Ji Ahn doesn't seem impulsive so much as dim-witted and panicky. I am having a tough time squaring her current personality with the teenager we saw taking agency, working a plan, and refusing to be cowed into inertia by doubt or fear.
I have an eight-seat dining table and there's never been more than 2 people at it, and even that's rare. I also…
That's a valid interpretation but I'm not buying it for this character or this series. I can absolutely see the Uncle doing all that but Yi Ping? No.
I've pretty much settled on the belief that Uncle is funding his Nephew's lifestyle, until the show says otherwise and gives us an inheritance or dead parents insurance policy.
Wow, the amount of comments that suggest Soga san is not good looking enough for Sakae amazes me. Also, shipping…
I don't get the hate about Soga's looks either. His personal style isn't doing him any favours, no, but he's quite obviously a good-looking man. Just adorkable.
This fever-dream of a show is something else. If I wasn't witnessing it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it was real. Also, there's still a potential murder mystery going on, apparently. I keep forgetting about that part even though it's kind of the whole point of the plot, that's how batshit insane this series is.
Ok, now I'm 100% convinced Uncle bought him that house. He's apparently spent millions on a custom-built lovebot for his Nephew, floating a mortgage was probably a high school graduation gift or something.
Kaneko is the best. The man's pep talk had me ready to quit MY job, and I actually love what I do for a living. There is no greater gift in the working world than having a boss who truly believes in you, and wants you to see the best in yourself even when you feel like an utter fraud and total failure.
The only thing I find more tedious than weddings are children, so these last two episodes haven't been my favourite. Still, I love all these characters. If the end truly is near for Chief, it'll break my heart, but would be fitting for the nature of this series, and the ways it explores love, letting in, and letting go.
Speaking of, I sincerely hope Kiku moves on. He shouldn't settle for being anyone's third choice, and I'd hate to think of him living a life in the shadow of Izumi's lost love and infatuation with that love's doppelgänger. Kiku confessed his feelings and got revenge for his dead best friend—now is a good time to begin moving forward into a life without Izumi. And it would be nice to see at least one of these men actually, truly let go of an unrequited love.
I've been wondering all series what had Sakae so dickmatized over Soga, and now I'm confused about why or when Soga found a romantic interest in Sakae. "Opposites attract" is a fine trope but this is just so sloppy. What are we doing? Why are we bothering?
And if Sakae is dumb enough to go back to Mizuki, who is so obviously a manipulative asshat who uses people, then I may have to just wash my hands of this one. Mizuki is at least making things interesting, thankfully, but we know he and Sakae aren't going to be endgame, so what's the point?
A story about a terrible person trying to change, redeem himself, and win back the love he stupidly lost is a story I'd watch, but this isn't that story, so...what am I supposed to care about here? Because I certainly don't give a shite at this point if Sakae and Soga get together. I like them both as individuals but I cannot for the life of me figure out what they see in one another, even through the lens of opposites attract.
This story did not need nearly six hours to tell. It would've worked far better, been tighter, and able to maintain momentum in movie format; as a limited series, it's draggy and too predictable. You spend a lot of time waiting for the plot to catch up with you.
The relationship between the Captain, the Detective, and the Detective's son was the most compelling aspect and it wasn't even the main story. That story arc was astounding, gut-wrenching, and ultimately cathartic. It was like a one-act play unfolding beautifully in the midst of some dull murder mystery nonsense.
I couldn't care less about the pathetic FL or her problems (honestly, if you're going to be that passive and that much of a pushover, your misery is your own damn fault), and I was just mildly interested in the shenanigans of her family, only because at least one woman in that bloodline was exercising a level of personal agency. The FL just let herself get carried along, blaming everyone and everything except herself for the ruin that was her life. Her getting slapped across the mouth was the highlight of the show.
It's worth a watch if only for the story between the detectives and the performances of their actors; the subtle body language, the looks, the weighty silences between the outbursts—wonderful work. The rest of the show was rather meh.
Is it family money? Surely an inheritance of some kind, or an insurance payout. Did they confirm whether his parents are dead? Did his Uncle buy him that house? I'd believe that; Uncle appears to have quite a lot of authority at the leading robotics manufacturer, so he probably makes a lot of money. I just don't see a guy they keep telling us generally detests the company of people buying himself a ten-seater dining table, however large the kitchen. But I can definitely see Uncle "I'm determined to get you laid" kitting out that whole house with the idea his Nephew will make friends some day.
I quite enjoyed the first half of the series. Violent, humorous, stylistically engaging with an intriguing set-up. The second half of the series, however, seemed to have forgotten what it was about. The ML just vanishes for nearly an entire episode before fading into the background, and we don't ever see the actual character growth that culminates in the series' final scene (which felt like a nod toward a second season with him unapologetically owning his power).
Definitely worth a watch if only for the slick transitions, colour palette, Lee Hee Joon's performance, and the journey of the dog, who had one of the most compelling and stressful story arcs in the show. However, I likely won't revisit this one.
Me: always going on about how quality is 1000x more important than quantityAlso me: only 6 episodes...? Hate you…
Right? Well, maybe if we are very lucky and behave ourselves, they'll give us a post-series special episode. At least we're getting one more episode than "Old Fashion Cupcake", anyway.
A handsome man appears from nowhere, cleans your house, restocks your fridge, cooks you dinner, gives you a handjob, cures your insomnia, clears up your skin, and lovingly restyles your hair, all over the course of 24 hours. Well, damn, it's all right for some, isn't it? Do I need to half-kill an old man to get that kind of luck or...?
I like all of the characters here, I really do, but I'm not sure it bodes well that by far the most engaging relationship in this BL at the moment is the one between the gay male lead and the straight female supporting character who has a crush on him. I could watch a whole series about these two as besties on adventures in Osaka. Just the two of them running around staging elaborate dates for strangers, returning lost puppies to their owners, and finding love, family, and friendship along the way.
It's only episode four, obviously the dynamics between the male leads will change, especially with the arrival of the ex, but so far, the romantic potential eludes me. I love a good opposites attract story but I just don't see the attraction. I have no idea what Sakae actually sees in Soga; other than his handsome face and cute smile, what is keeping Sakae so invested? He seems baffled by everything about Soga, from his personality to his hobbies to his interests. And Soga...is freshly(?) divorced, and hasn't given any indication he's even on the market. He seems just genuinely interested in making friends. I find Soga endearing but we share a lot of the same interests, so I feel I understand him on several levels. But what's got Sakae so pre-dickmatized?
Maybe it's just the allure of something different. I look forward to the next episode.
Hmmm I think I am the minority that didnt quite enjoy this as much as I thought I would. Dont get me wrong, the…
We are in the minority but I also found the series ultimately underwhelming. It had such an intriguing set-up, only to end on the same simplistic message so common in romantic dramas. I really thought the story was heading somewhere fresh and original. I was so disappointed when it landed in My First Philosophy Picturebook territory. Such a waste of an interesting story device.
A better story would've been the conversations between Toki and Sahara leading them both to realistic growth: Sahara finally lets his past die and from its ashes rekindles his relationship with Nekoto; meanwhile, Toki appreciates the maturity to where his crush-on-teacher led him, and he embarks on a flirtation with Rise/someone else while pursuing a future of personal achievement.
Because in no way does this series sell a love story between Toki and Sahara. They are "in love" because the script says so, not because anything in the plot leads to/supports it. In most every aspect and facet, they present more as brothers than anything else. Whenever the script tries to romanticize their relationship, it's clunky and awkward and ridiculous.
Further, she almost got herself knifed, shot, cut, and killed in a series of hand-to-hand interactions with the trained mercenaries trying to kill her, and each time she was saved by an outside force. Why? Because her Uncle didn't train her to fight their actual enemies, he trained her to battle a self-realization between the id and the ego. Even he flat-out told her that her combat training with Pasin wasn't good enough to handle a punk with a knife in an alley; what did he expect her to do when confronted with a bloodthirsty sociopath trained via conscription and hardened as a killer-for-hire?
It doesn't matter whether Jinman didn't want her to become a mercenary/be an assassin; that is completely immaterial to making sure she is capable of equivalent self-defense when violent, well-equipped, well-paid mercenaries/assassins are attempting to off her. And the excuse of he wanted her to live a normal life isn't even supported by the actual story; he told her upfront that he can't be her parent, and she developed a whole "get the hell out of this house" plan specifically because he deprived her of a normal life (for which he was not one bit sorry, as he reminds her that she should distrust surface presentation and probe deeper).
There was also no reason for Jinman to wait to have Ji Ahn make a "choice" about her future while she was actively trying not to die for reasons she didn't understand in a battle zone for which she wasn't prepared. There was absolutely no reason he couldn't have explained their situation to her while she was growing up. The child and teen versions of Ji Ahn we saw would not have spent life afraid of shadows just because they knew the truth; they would've lived deliberately, smartly, with the full knowledge of their situation and the proper preparation for handling it, whether that life meant staying and inheriting the family business, or changing her identity and cutting ties with Jinman forever (which was apparently an option all along).
THAT is the problem with the whole series. Jinman is the kind of smart where he would force immersive training and complete knowledge on his Niece because she'd need it to survive. In fact, given how the rest of their family was brutally murdered, in part, because they had zero knowledge of what was going on, it would be more likely that he would be even more insistent on preparing Ji Ahn to survive, even if she resisted it the whole way.
The only reason Jinman didn't prepare Ji Ahn to be able to contend with what she faced is because the script said so; the story doesn't happen unless Jinman makes the unbelievably idiotic decision to NOT provide the necessary level of training, education, or knowledge that Ji Ahn needs. It's an egregiously dumb plot device designed purely to force the story to happen the way it does, eschewing all logic and common sense in the process, and actively working against the character Jinman is presented as being (both by his actions and by how other characters describe him).
What would've made a better story: Jinman provides Ji Ahn with everything she needs to potentially be the victor, but Ji Ahn struggles with the idea that she could be a killer, that she could let others die for her, that she is capable of leading anyone in a fight to the death, or that she could in good conscience maintain a relationship with Jinman, who holds a level of responsibility for the death of her parents, her childhood trauma, and the uncertainty of her own future.
There was a lot of potential meat on that bone but we wasted time with such silly gristle.
Episodes 6 and 7 were the best parts of what could've been a fun if clichéd and predictable revenge actioner. Unfortunately, instead of a tightly-paced, sensible movie, we're left with a deeply disappointing and aggravatingly idiotic series that was somehow too short and entirely too long.
The major problem is that in order for the plot conceit to work, it requires the smartest character in the show to be a complete dumbass. Sure, you want your Niece to be a competent and self-reliant survivor; why did you not equip her with the skills and tools to be so? Trite philosophical musings are not training. When you joined the military, they didn't just plop you in a warzone with a copy of "Sun Tzu for Beginners" and tell you to figure it out. They taught and repeatedly drilled you on a comprehensive curriculum of combat skills, strategic and tacical thinking, how to efficiently use an array of weapons, unit leadership and coordination, and—this is a big one—they provided you with actionable operational intel.
You had at least ten years to prepare your Niece for this battle that you knew was inevitable. Ten years to provide her skills and knowledge, and maybe you don't want to blow her tiny mind with all your gory dark secrets all at once but you could've slow-dripped some of this massively critical information about people trying to kill her, why they're trying to kill her, the protocols preventing them from doing so while you're still alive, and the plan-of-action for keeping her alive once you're dead. Oh, and she could've spent some of those years thoroughly studying that handover manual and learning about your allies and network instead of being forced to panic cram a giant info dump while a legion of mercenaries with an endless military arsenal are trying to shoot her in the goddamn face.
What your lot did with Minhye? That. You should've done that with your Niece.
And if it was so easy to give your Niece a new identity and life, why didn't you just do that in the first place if you weren't going to bother preparing her to survive and thrive in your world?
Just what the actual fuck, Jinman? Your Niece is alive as a result of mostly dumb luck and tactical homesteading, you stupid bastard. If I were your Niece and you walked out of your grave after all that, I'd shoot you in the kneecaps.
And speaking of Ji Ahn, her character regression was confusing as hell. I was impressed by child Ji Ahn, and teen Ji Ahn had serious can-do gumption. Who was the trembling, screaming, skittish changeling that we were forced to endure in young adult Ji Ahn? I was ready to just let her die by the end.
Good grief, I am so mad at the both of them. Their combined stupid is also responsible for getting characters I liked needlessly maimed and/or killed.
Aigoo, this series was just one big headache...
Perhaps that's why they wrote in a line about her being "impulsive" rather than analytical like her Uncle but, frankly, Young Adult Ji Ahn doesn't seem impulsive so much as dim-witted and panicky. I am having a tough time squaring her current personality with the teenager we saw taking agency, working a plan, and refusing to be cowed into inertia by doubt or fear.
I've pretty much settled on the belief that Uncle is funding his Nephew's lifestyle, until the show says otherwise and gives us an inheritance or dead parents insurance policy.
I just...
This fever-dream of a show is something else. If I wasn't witnessing it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it was real. Also, there's still a potential murder mystery going on, apparently. I keep forgetting about that part even though it's kind of the whole point of the plot, that's how batshit insane this series is.
Speaking of, I sincerely hope Kiku moves on. He shouldn't settle for being anyone's third choice, and I'd hate to think of him living a life in the shadow of Izumi's lost love and infatuation with that love's doppelgänger. Kiku confessed his feelings and got revenge for his dead best friend—now is a good time to begin moving forward into a life without Izumi. And it would be nice to see at least one of these men actually, truly let go of an unrequited love.
And if Sakae is dumb enough to go back to Mizuki, who is so obviously a manipulative asshat who uses people, then I may have to just wash my hands of this one. Mizuki is at least making things interesting, thankfully, but we know he and Sakae aren't going to be endgame, so what's the point?
A story about a terrible person trying to change, redeem himself, and win back the love he stupidly lost is a story I'd watch, but this isn't that story, so...what am I supposed to care about here? Because I certainly don't give a shite at this point if Sakae and Soga get together. I like them both as individuals but I cannot for the life of me figure out what they see in one another, even through the lens of opposites attract.
The relationship between the Captain, the Detective, and the Detective's son was the most compelling aspect and it wasn't even the main story. That story arc was astounding, gut-wrenching, and ultimately cathartic. It was like a one-act play unfolding beautifully in the midst of some dull murder mystery nonsense.
I couldn't care less about the pathetic FL or her problems (honestly, if you're going to be that passive and that much of a pushover, your misery is your own damn fault), and I was just mildly interested in the shenanigans of her family, only because at least one woman in that bloodline was exercising a level of personal agency. The FL just let herself get carried along, blaming everyone and everything except herself for the ruin that was her life. Her getting slapped across the mouth was the highlight of the show.
It's worth a watch if only for the story between the detectives and the performances of their actors; the subtle body language, the looks, the weighty silences between the outbursts—wonderful work. The rest of the show was rather meh.
Definitely worth a watch if only for the slick transitions, colour palette, Lee Hee Joon's performance, and the journey of the dog, who had one of the most compelling and stressful story arcs in the show. However, I likely won't revisit this one.
It's only episode four, obviously the dynamics between the male leads will change, especially with the arrival of the ex, but so far, the romantic potential eludes me. I love a good opposites attract story but I just don't see the attraction. I have no idea what Sakae actually sees in Soga; other than his handsome face and cute smile, what is keeping Sakae so invested? He seems baffled by everything about Soga, from his personality to his hobbies to his interests. And Soga...is freshly(?) divorced, and hasn't given any indication he's even on the market. He seems just genuinely interested in making friends. I find Soga endearing but we share a lot of the same interests, so I feel I understand him on several levels. But what's got Sakae so pre-dickmatized?
Maybe it's just the allure of something different. I look forward to the next episode.
A better story would've been the conversations between Toki and Sahara leading them both to realistic growth: Sahara finally lets his past die and from its ashes rekindles his relationship with Nekoto; meanwhile, Toki appreciates the maturity to where his crush-on-teacher led him, and he embarks on a flirtation with Rise/someone else while pursuing a future of personal achievement.
Because in no way does this series sell a love story between Toki and Sahara. They are "in love" because the script says so, not because anything in the plot leads to/supports it. In most every aspect and facet, they present more as brothers than anything else. Whenever the script tries to romanticize their relationship, it's clunky and awkward and ridiculous.
This should've been a better show.