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Haha - I had a feeling that Yu Xi Gu's new job would be at a gay club, and I figured that Xiang Hao Ting would somehow see him there. Looks like things really get rolling next week!
Two unforgettable scenes are when Golf realizes it's Bank's birthday (as well as the anniversary of Bank's father's death) and goes to find him, and when Golf completely loses it over Tom's interest in Bank, and Bank texts him, and Golf rushes to find him. Everything about these scenes - the setting, the acting, and the music - is perfect.
"Thank you for loving someone as awful as me." Oh how that line always moves me so much.
Gay man here. Have been getting all my gay and lesbian friends into BL this summer....Have watched it all. ????Started…
I'm a gay guy too. I've tried to get some of my friends into BL but haven't had much luck. As for me, Asian drama is all I watch these days. No joke.
For BL I too started with Sotus. I then watched the three seasons of Hormones, followed by Love By Chance, Make It Right, and Lovesick 1 and 2. I believe that HIStory 2 and 3 are masterpieces of the genre, but I didn't like Theory of Love at all -- I basically hate-watched it to the end. The unbalanced and abusive nature of the main couple's relationship just upset me too much, and Kai's sudden redemption at the end felt unearned and unconvincing. (And it left me never wanting to watch anything else starring Off, so I guess that means he's a talented actor at least.)
Lovesick and Crossing the Boundary are my two favorite series so far. Lovesick feels groundbreaking and iconic both in terms of storyline and its music soundtrack. ("Shake" has turned up in so many other shows, from the Waterboyy movie to Reminders, that I've lost count.) As for that notorious party scene in the first episode, at first it confused the hell out of me and even made me drop the show for a few weeks, but after I finally finished Season 1 and went back to rewatch the first episode it was amazing to spot the clues in the party scene about what was to come over the course of the series.
As for HIStory 1, I wasn't nearly as disturbed by the relationship between Jin Teng and Li Chen in Obsessed as I was by the one between Kai and Third in Theory of Love. It puzzles me that more people weren't as upset by Theory of Love as I was. I'd be curious to read an analysis of that series that's as comprehensive and insightful as the ones provided by the wonderful KearaMH for the HIStory shows.
Can someone tell me if Bai Lin gets less annoying? The more I'm watching this show the more I can't stand her…
I was going to post this exact same question. Can't stand her. The other three roommates are so much more grounded and mature. I'm not sure why they'd want to drag around this useless piece of excess baggage.
Can anyone tell me whether this series is BL or Bromance????
Bromance, but comes so close to being BL that I think it originally was BL, until for some reason they took a step back and made it bromance. So, it’s a bromance where neither “bro” shows much interest in females and one admits to being bisexual (and rebuffs the female who hits on him), and they really care about each another.
I think "Kiss Me Again" could have been more clear in the first episode about the timeline for the Pete x Kao storyline.
For a long time it bothered me that Sandee appears with Pete and Kao in the very first scene of the BL thread, with Sandee handing a document to Kao and Pete grabbing it away. Obviously they all know each other pretty well, although we're not given any sense of what's going on with Pete generally being a d*ck while driving Kao all over town for some sort of activity.
But from there "Kiss Me Again" takes us to Pete and Kao's high school days, with Kao meeting Pete for the first time when Pete and his buddies are giving Rain a beating. (Well, it sure *seems* like a first-time meeting, but then we see how Pete goes pretty easy on Kao, not even hitting back after Kao punches him. One thing we come to know about Pete: he relishes a good fight.)
But then we're zoomed forward to the first day of college. Here, Sandee is now a stranger to June, Kao and Thada until June brings her into their "cool gang". From there Sandee immediately brings the boys to meet her other friend, Pete. Pete spots Kao and says "You again," like they're encountering each other for the first time in a while.
So, clearly, the timeline should be (1) high school scene where Kao has his first encounter with Pete when he breaks up the fight between Pete and Rain, (2) the first day of college where June brings the gang together for the first time, and (3) the scene where Kao takes the document from Sandee and leaves with Pete. It would make sense that the document is part of the assignment that they're all doing for their college class (the one where Pete doesn't bother helping Kao, which also fits with Pete's attitude in that opening sequence.)
Maybe I'm just too dumb to pick up on all this right away, but even after watching the Pete x Kao storyline a few times it still didn't dawn on me. I wish that the series had just given us some indicators of the timeline shifts, like putting the words "A few months earlier" on the screen at the key points. Or, better yet, just start the storyline with the scene in high school and move that first scene with Sandee to its proper place in the college part of timeline.
Anyway, not a big deal but I just wanted to get that off my chest. If you managed to read this far without rolling your eyes, thank you. :)
Interesting to see that his only series credits are with Love Sick. When I saw him in Love Sick I thought he looked so familiar. In fact I came to this profile page to find out where I’d seen him before.
As usual with this series I will be the dissenting voice. I give it a 6.5/10.
For me, Khai's fundamental character flaw is captured in the line of dialog that he says in episode 12 (or maybe 11) after he learns that Third doesn't want to be his boyfriend because if they end up breaking up someday, he will lose not only a boyfriend but a friend.
Khai's response to this is basically: Even if I end up losing a friend, I have to take the risk and win him.
Romantic, right?
Well, except for the fact that with that statement, Khai has twisted Third's concern all around, once again showing that he makes everything about himself. *Third* is the one who's worried about losing a friend. Instead of Khai reassuring *himself* about possibly losing a friend, he should be reassuring Third! But he's too self-absorbed to even enter that mode of thinking. To him it's about winning a game. He's a player till the end.
Still, lines like that do prove that the writers for this series did a fantastic job in creating the selfish, clueless character of Khai. I'm new to the wonderful world of BL dramas and this is my first series with Off in a starring role, and I have to say that the Khai character is now so indelible to me that I think I'll have a hard time watching him in any other role. I'll probably sit there the whole time wanting to punch him in the face.
The last two episodes felt rushed to me. The "turn" should have come about half the way into the series, so that the story would at least have had a shot at making Khai's conversion convincing.
I'll watch a Season 2 if it means that Khai is as tortured as Third was during Season 1. If it's just more of Third being abused by the emotional vampire Khai, I'll pass.
This is KIND OF a spoiler, but what you want basically happens half way through the show, Third realizes he's…
I'm all caught up now, and waiting for the Eng Sub of episode 11 to get posted. I like how it's going! It's like all of my wishes are coming true, including the side pairing I was hoping for.
I've been attached to someone in the same way you describe! Maybe that's a common factor in fans of these kinds of stories. We get to relive our own crazy, heartbreaking experiences vicariously and (hopefully) see the conflicts resolved in a positive way.
To be truthful this whole thing ain't doing it for me and I feel I'm forcing myself to like it to keep watching…
I agree that the way they make the girls all vapid fangirls for Khai is ridiculous. It's also a joke how P'An doesn't get at least a little attention from the females. Earth is one of the best-looking guys in BL drama and the P'An character is mature and classy.
This is KIND OF a spoiler, but what you want basically happens half way through the show, Third realizes he's…
I'm well into the "Third throwing shade" part of the story and I'm probably enjoying it a little too much. Yes, he's mean to Khai, but to me it all comes from a defensive stance so that he won't give in to those other feelings again.
Also, Third isn't going about it by doing the kind of awful stuff to Khai that Khai did to him, like making plans and then calling at the last minute to say he's got another obligation (oh, and to be lying about it, too.) Third's approach is completely from the standpoint of self-protection. I hold him entirely blameless.
I might believe more in Khai's transformation if the story had the two guys part ways for a few years and gain some relationship experience -- like Khai realizing that he likes men, dating someone and getting dumped, and seeing Third again with a whole new sense of what's important in life. This immediate transformation and sudden realization that he likes Third is a bit of a stretch.
Other random observations:
(1) I can see now that Flipped would have to be Third's favorite movie because the whole series is based on the same premise. I saw Flipped about a year ago and it didn't do much for me, but it's a great trope for a drama series!
(2) I'm at the eighth episode and I'm loving the hints at a Two-An pairing. (The "enemies to lovers" storyline always hooks me.) The character Two has grown on me so much. What a sweet guy, the perfect person to have on your side. How can Third not consider *him* to be his best friend?
(3) Like some others I fast-forward through the Bone subplot. There's no chemistry at all between him and the teacher.
(4) Just saw Khai's motorcycle accident. The fact that he finally understands Third's experience was done exceptionally well. I just hope that what comes next isn't Third feeling responsible for what happened and lowering his guard specifically because Khai got injured.
(5) I still don't know why Third ever fell in love with Khai in the first place. If I did I probably wouldn't dislike Khai so much.
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"Thank you for loving someone as awful as me." Oh how that line always moves me so much.
For BL I too started with Sotus. I then watched the three seasons of Hormones, followed by Love By Chance, Make It Right, and Lovesick 1 and 2. I believe that HIStory 2 and 3 are masterpieces of the genre, but I didn't like Theory of Love at all -- I basically hate-watched it to the end. The unbalanced and abusive nature of the main couple's relationship just upset me too much, and Kai's sudden redemption at the end felt unearned and unconvincing. (And it left me never wanting to watch anything else starring Off, so I guess that means he's a talented actor at least.)
Lovesick and Crossing the Boundary are my two favorite series so far. Lovesick feels groundbreaking and iconic both in terms of storyline and its music soundtrack. ("Shake" has turned up in so many other shows, from the Waterboyy movie to Reminders, that I've lost count.) As for that notorious party scene in the first episode, at first it confused the hell out of me and even made me drop the show for a few weeks, but after I finally finished Season 1 and went back to rewatch the first episode it was amazing to spot the clues in the party scene about what was to come over the course of the series.
As for HIStory 1, I wasn't nearly as disturbed by the relationship between Jin Teng and Li Chen in Obsessed as I was by the one between Kai and Third in Theory of Love. It puzzles me that more people weren't as upset by Theory of Love as I was. I'd be curious to read an analysis of that series that's as comprehensive and insightful as the ones provided by the wonderful KearaMH for the HIStory shows.
For a long time it bothered me that Sandee appears with Pete and Kao in the very first scene of the BL thread, with Sandee handing a document to Kao and Pete grabbing it away. Obviously they all know each other pretty well, although we're not given any sense of what's going on with Pete generally being a d*ck while driving Kao all over town for some sort of activity.
But from there "Kiss Me Again" takes us to Pete and Kao's high school days, with Kao meeting Pete for the first time when Pete and his buddies are giving Rain a beating. (Well, it sure *seems* like a first-time meeting, but then we see how Pete goes pretty easy on Kao, not even hitting back after Kao punches him. One thing we come to know about Pete: he relishes a good fight.)
But then we're zoomed forward to the first day of college. Here, Sandee is now a stranger to June, Kao and Thada until June brings her into their "cool gang". From there Sandee immediately brings the boys to meet her other friend, Pete. Pete spots Kao and says "You again," like they're encountering each other for the first time in a while.
So, clearly, the timeline should be (1) high school scene where Kao has his first encounter with Pete when he breaks up the fight between Pete and Rain, (2) the first day of college where June brings the gang together for the first time, and (3) the scene where Kao takes the document from Sandee and leaves with Pete. It would make sense that the document is part of the assignment that they're all doing for their college class (the one where Pete doesn't bother helping Kao, which also fits with Pete's attitude in that opening sequence.)
Maybe I'm just too dumb to pick up on all this right away, but even after watching the Pete x Kao storyline a few times it still didn't dawn on me. I wish that the series had just given us some indicators of the timeline shifts, like putting the words "A few months earlier" on the screen at the key points. Or, better yet, just start the storyline with the scene in high school and move that first scene with Sandee to its proper place in the college part of timeline.
Anyway, not a big deal but I just wanted to get that off my chest. If you managed to read this far without rolling your eyes, thank you. :)
Anyway - a handsome and talented actor!
For me, Khai's fundamental character flaw is captured in the line of dialog that he says in episode 12 (or maybe 11) after he learns that Third doesn't want to be his boyfriend because if they end up breaking up someday, he will lose not only a boyfriend but a friend.
Khai's response to this is basically: Even if I end up losing a friend, I have to take the risk and win him.
Romantic, right?
Well, except for the fact that with that statement, Khai has twisted Third's concern all around, once again showing that he makes everything about himself. *Third* is the one who's worried about losing a friend. Instead of Khai reassuring *himself* about possibly losing a friend, he should be reassuring Third! But he's too self-absorbed to even enter that mode of thinking. To him it's about winning a game. He's a player till the end.
Still, lines like that do prove that the writers for this series did a fantastic job in creating the selfish, clueless character of Khai. I'm new to the wonderful world of BL dramas and this is my first series with Off in a starring role, and I have to say that the Khai character is now so indelible to me that I think I'll have a hard time watching him in any other role. I'll probably sit there the whole time wanting to punch him in the face.
The last two episodes felt rushed to me. The "turn" should have come about half the way into the series, so that the story would at least have had a shot at making Khai's conversion convincing.
I'll watch a Season 2 if it means that Khai is as tortured as Third was during Season 1. If it's just more of Third being abused by the emotional vampire Khai, I'll pass.
I've been attached to someone in the same way you describe! Maybe that's a common factor in fans of these kinds of stories. We get to relive our own crazy, heartbreaking experiences vicariously and (hopefully) see the conflicts resolved in a positive way.
Also, Third isn't going about it by doing the kind of awful stuff to Khai that Khai did to him, like making plans and then calling at the last minute to say he's got another obligation (oh, and to be lying about it, too.) Third's approach is completely from the standpoint of self-protection. I hold him entirely blameless.
I might believe more in Khai's transformation if the story had the two guys part ways for a few years and gain some relationship experience -- like Khai realizing that he likes men, dating someone and getting dumped, and seeing Third again with a whole new sense of what's important in life. This immediate transformation and sudden realization that he likes Third is a bit of a stretch.
Other random observations:
(1) I can see now that Flipped would have to be Third's favorite movie because the whole series is based on the same premise. I saw Flipped about a year ago and it didn't do much for me, but it's a great trope for a drama series!
(2) I'm at the eighth episode and I'm loving the hints at a Two-An pairing. (The "enemies to lovers" storyline always hooks me.) The character Two has grown on me so much. What a sweet guy, the perfect person to have on your side. How can Third not consider *him* to be his best friend?
(3) Like some others I fast-forward through the Bone subplot. There's no chemistry at all between him and the teacher.
(4) Just saw Khai's motorcycle accident. The fact that he finally understands Third's experience was done exceptionally well. I just hope that what comes next isn't Third feeling responsible for what happened and lowering his guard specifically because Khai got injured.
(5) I still don't know why Third ever fell in love with Khai in the first place. If I did I probably wouldn't dislike Khai so much.