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I agree. Some relationships just don't go smoothly and have sweet moments, as much as we want them to. I thought it was one of the more realistic shows, where it may have started with sexual attraction but they found it could possibly be more. That transition in itself was a challenge because of the uncertainty of "are we still FWB, or are you feeling more like I am?" How vulnerable was Team willing to be? Was he willing to lose this safe cocoon Win provided to get the love he needed/wanted?

I do feel like I missed something. Win seemed to also have "lost" something which is why he had issues expressing his feelings. Dean would sometimes say something to this effect, but I don't know that we got an explanation.

I went into this without any expectations and that likely played a huge part in my enjoyment of the series. I just discovered Asian dramas 13 months ago and BL about 8 months ago. I go into shows not expecting much and being pleasantly surprised. Not to say I'm never disappointed, but I do get very picky about which ones I choose to watch. I rarely watch on-going shows but I did with this one because of UWMA. Not one of my faves, but sill enjoyable.

I fell into a KDrama slump a few months ago and started several but put them on hold fairly quickly. I switched to CDramas which worked. I enjoyed some, including "She and Her Perfect Husband" and "New Life Begins." Thankfully, "Under the Queen's Umbrella," "Reborn Rich" and "The Forbidden Marriage" arrived in time to bring me back to KDramas. I'm mostly watching Thai Dramas now, which can be hit or miss. The lakorn ones can be too melodramatic for me, but I recently found "Mae Khrua Khon Mai" (a RomCom) quite funny. "I Told Sunset About You," a coming-of-age story set in Phuket, was wonderful and very well-acted.

I Told Sunset About You (on Viki), a coming of age story set in Phuket. Wonderful scenery, great story, well-acted, even by the younger versions of the two leads. Lots of emotions and very realistic.

I Promised You the Moon, Part 2 of ITSAY, not yet released on Viki, I found it on Bilibili. Lots of growing up in a college setting. Great acting, use of subtle movements, facial expressions and body language. In both, the leads had amazing chemistry.

Thanks to this article, I was able to find (and watch) My Secret Love and Secret Crush on You. What fun shows!! I had already seen Cutie Pie and am now watching Cutie Pie 2.

I was also able to add non-BL shows to my to-watch list. Thanks again!

Thanks

Which version should I watch? The one on Viki or iQIYI? Looking for most uncensored version and better English subs.

I agree. The angst is definitely lasting too long. I'm ready for their long overdue confessions to each other.

iQIYI releases two a day here (USA).

Watching "Not Me" now. Will be so sad when I'm done (on ep 11).

I think it's pretty common when a relationship starts with sex, and you clarify it at the beginning that you're both just having fun and getting a benefit, that if one of you get bored, you'll separate. That was the premise of their getting together.

The fact that they eventually start feeling more and doing more for each other could be interpreted as "I'm not bored with you YET." It's not a commitment. Team's feelings have developed to the point that he could no longer see himself without Win, so Team needs to know and needs to hear that Win feels the same way. If Win doesn't, Team needs to walk away. Win's hesitation - ugh! - was not what Team needed. The angst is killing me. I can't believe we have to wait a week. But this is normal behavior for 20-somethings. I think Dean and Pharm have remarkable communication skills for their age!

I also loved the soundtrack through the series. Will add to my playlist.

Once you get to the last episode, the story becomes more interesting. How many missed connections Nine and Daonuea had to make it. And how chances they had to create and give each other to get there.

I normally don't watch shows with such a low rating, but the reviews were all over the map so I gave it a try. I watched the Uncut version on iQIYI. The subs were not perfect but totally understandable. The plot, about missed connections and second chances, was clear. There were times when a flashback happened but it was fairly clear (to me) what was intended.

8.5/10

Once you get to the last episode... (continued below)

Watched the first 12 episodes on iQIYI.

Yeah, that cackle at the end of ep 12 was unnerving.

I think having "stalker" in the alternative title and synopsis may throw people off from this hidden gem. Toh has a crush on Nuea and watches him at sports events and gets to know his schedule, so he can watch him pass by. This very much reminds me of having crushes on high school, except Toh is a first-year college student. Toh is really into photography. He joins contests and takes photos at sporting events. His photos of Nuea have even been used by the school for sports posters.

What I love:
-Toh, Som, Daisy and Jao are friends who totally support one another. They are loud & quirky and are quick to be there for one another for the good, the bad and the ugly. I want friends like this.
-The representation: gay couples, lesbian couple, couple where one is transgender, hetero couple.
-I normally don't like second-hand cringe moments but it was so well done in this series. Seng did a fantastic job!

I hope people take a chance and watch a few episodes. I think they will be pleasantly surprised.

I have to disagree with your assessment of Toh as neurodivergent. He's quirky, a bit immature and slightly obsessive about his crush. The collecting of items is not too unusual, but the type of items are (head of pig, for example). Many people collect theater and concert ticket stubs, Broadway show Playbills and more, neatly gathered in an album.

As I watched the series, I started thinking that the "Secret Crush" actually went both ways for some time. Granted, Toh's crush seems like it went for longer, but Nuea started having a secret crush on Toh as well, whether he realized it at the time or not. He started missing "Van Gogh" when he didn't see him, found that he always smiled when he caught sight of him, etc.

I absolutely loved this series. I think it can be difficult to be in a real relationship with someone you've been crushing on for a long time, but Toh and Nuea managed it with open conversation, esp. after Nuea found the wall of "adoration" - not sure what else to call all those photos of him in Toh's dorm. Nuea said he wanted Toh to know he's not extraordinary. As you have already hinted at, as a society, we tend to place rich, athletic, good-looking guys up on a pedestal. If Nuea and Toh will last as a couple, there can't be such an uneven power dynamic. Nuea doesn't want hero worship; he wants love.

He was hit with a poison dart and almost died. His right arm seems useless now from the poison.

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