I can already tell that the Grandpa will go after WooJoo’s insurance. He ll either claim the custody or just…
To be fair, ML deserves the criticism because he's an idiot. After being nice for 2 days or so he basically forgot everything even tho he should protect the kid. I get that he's conflicted, but it's unrealistic as hell. He never forgave his bro for like 20 years, and he does it for his dad after a couple of days? Makes zero sense.
He doesn't deserve the blame for what his dad did, but he does deserve the criticism for being an ignorant fool.
EP7: Is there a character who's not an idiot other than Wooju? FL is literally flirting with ML and then goes…
Exactly. I don't care who she wants to be with but pick a fighter ffs.
She's a typical codependent woman, that's why she doesn't want to choose. She always had her sister who helped her, and now she wants these guys to do the same.
Why would she be in an abusive relationship if she end up with 2ML? I think he will make a happy, there is nothing…
If they get together their relationship is destined to fail. Why? Because both of them are stuck in the past, that's not love btw. FL doesn't care about Wooju, she's flirting with both guys. SML hired her only because he's obsessed with her and so on. He's her boss but doesn't care about what people think about her even though she's just a temp.
He's only nice to her because they're not dating officially yet.
FL is clearly codependent, and SML is an obsessed typical man who doesn't care about anything else and just wants to get the girl. That's not a good start for a healthy relationship.
I hate the sml but he doesn't looks like a red flag �? he's a good guy
He literally hired her only because he's in love, he's the reason people hate FL at their company, keeps following her everywhere and ignores the fact that she has a kid and doesn't let her go home at normal times because he knows ML will take care of the kid so he can have a date with FL.
And these are just a couple of things. If he's not a pretty face everyone would call him a red flag.
why would a relationship with SML be toxic?...he seems to be a good guy
He hired her only because he's in love, he's the main reason people hate her at their company. The guy is so obsessed he doesn't care about anything else. He knows he has a kid and another man living with her yet he's always following her and asking her to be with him till late at night.
wanting a woman to end up in a toxic / abusive relationship just because she isn't reciprocating the feelings…
She doesn't deserve to be in a good relationship. She wanted to be a mother, but her main focus is 2 guys.
As I already told you. You're obviously too young to understand, you live in Disneyland. The fact that you're talking about my gender proves how clueless you are and you only care about pretty boys.
This woman wants to be with SML who is a red flag. The guy only hired her because he's obsessed with her. He doesn't care about what's going on with her life, doesn't care about what's happening at the building he owns, and doesn't care about the fact that how people are treating his so called "love" at their company. Meanwhile, FL is flirting with him and ML as well, and barely does anything for Wooju.
This isn't about women, it's about ONE woman who clearly don't deserve to be a mother let alone be in a good relationship.
No one gives a damn about her feelings tbh. She has one job, taking care of a 2 year old kid. That's all. Not…
He was with Wooji for a whole month before he got the job. It's obvious you're too young to understand this, but the problem isn't the fact that they want to work. That's why daycares and kindergartens exist. Also, he's not with Wooju for 2-3 hours, you can literally see him with the kid most of the time, because he's not working till late nights let alone every day. He's job is to take care of the kid till 7PM, not cleaning the whole house alone and cooking till FL comes home from her date night.
"Motherhood is a punishment." Okay, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. Like, you're next level crazy. Sorry not sorry.
No one gives a damn about her feelings tbh. She has one job, taking care of a 2 year old kid. That's all. Not…
You still don't get it do you? FL is the one who said "I want to take care of the kid." not the ML. Yeah, ML could've packed his bags already but he loves FL and Wooju too and FL is basically using him as a butler now so she can date the other guy.
Wooju should be ML and FL should be the red flag SML. That's the real happy ending. She don't deserve to be a mother. That's the fact.
No one gives a damn about her feelings tbh. She has one job, taking care of a 2 year old kid. That's all. Not…
It's a romance show about two people who have to take care of a child who lost his parents and suffers from a serious mental health issue and we only see 1 scene about that basically because 90% of the time all we see is FL whining about her love life, can't pick up the phone and the actress has more scenes with the kid off-screen than on-screen.
At this point SML is the real ML. She doesn't deserve Wooju at all.
Taking care of Wooju is HER job, she signed up for that job, ML never wanted to be a parent. I don't even remember why he moved in. It happened because his new home got messed up or something. That's also a bullshit plot btw. ML is there only so the writer can fantasise about a love triangle. That's all.
Not sure what show you're watching, but based on what you're saying, you're definitely watching something else.
The best ending for me to be satisfied even after all this shit:
ML with Wooju and FL with the red flag SML. I want to see her struggle in a toxic relationship while ML being happy with the kid and later finding the right woman maybe.
Even if you add 10 more scenes per episode the writing is still poor. It's literally like a fanfiction written…
She can eat her groth all I care, if I'm the ML I would've kicked her ass out after the 3rd time she ignored my calls.
This isn't character development, this is neglecting a child. Also, this is only 12 episodes and 8 were about a love triangle. They can't save this now. They already messed it up. Even if the ending is good, it won't make the drama better. Who's gonna forget all the mess between? I won't, that's for sure.
"thats fine bc the ML is there for her which she subconsiously recognizes"
My point exactly. She knows he's there, so she can date another guy while she's flirting with her "butler" as well. That's not a woman you should keep for long or at all.
"I am hoping in our next week of episodes she will confess and apologize to him bc thats only thing to make dmg control."
Based on the teaser, I don't think this is going to happen. They might end this stupid love triangle in EP11.
For me, the best ending would be ML with Wooju and FL with toxic Boss. They deserve each other.
ALSO i feel like you guys don't get that she's only known the ml for a month or maybe two at this point? and she's…
No one gives a damn about her feelings tbh. She has one job, taking care of a 2 year old kid. That's all. Not flirting with two guys, one of which is her boss now. It's hard enough to start a relationship with someone who you work with, but if it's your boss, it's even worse. Now, add a 2 year old kid to the mix and you should be smacked in the head so you can wake the hell up from your romantic dreams.
In real life, the Child Protection Service would be all over them and have taken the kid already. Especially after they let the "dad" take care of him.
Even if you add 10 more scenes per episode the writing is still poor. It's literally like a fanfiction written…
I didn't watch that drama so I don't know.
Sure, what you're saying makes sense on paper, but it's still irritating as hell. ML is basically a butler at this point.
When he moved in I thought we might get some parenting scenes and obviously romance, but no, they barely had any meaningful scenes together, especially 3 of them. Since EP3 or EP4 SML is basically the ML.
I said this already, but this woman is clearly not qualified to be a mother yet. Tbh, she's not qualified to be in a romantic relationship either, but that's my opinion. I would never date someone who can't make up their mind and always says yes.
I don't think its the writer who is fully at fault here rather I think tvN fucked up bc they removed some scenes…
Even if you add 10 more scenes per episode the writing is still poor. It's literally like a fanfiction written by a teenage girl. No offense to teen girls. At least they can say it's not their official job. 😂
This drama is freakin' frustrating so here comes my rant in the next comment with spoilers.
EP7:
Is there a character who's not an idiot other than Wooju? FL is literally flirting with ML and then goes on a date with her boss twice. Let's say how it is.
Regardless of gender, I DESPISE EVERYONE who thinks it's okay to have two irons in the fire. They don't deserve to be in a real relationship. I don't give a damn about excuses. You can do it when you're a kid, but when your main priority should be raising a kid it's not okay at all. I don't care about the romance anymore, because it's obvious who's the endgame, this is just a poorly written dragged out love triangle for no reason.
I've seen a lot of badly written female characters in my life, but this girl is probably in the TOP3. She can't say no to anyone.
The whole mess at her work was also done poorly. Like, the whole situation was solved in 2 minutes, basically.
EP8 and the overall story in these 2 episodes:
You know, I really hate when parents who abandon their kids come back and act like nothing happened, but what irritates me the most is FL and ML just let him take care of Wooju even though neither of them knows shit about the guy. ML knows his past, he knows he's not someone you should trust. Yet, after 2 days of being nice, they're basically treating him like a savior. Like, that's just being stupid on another level.
If I'm being honest, neither FL nor ML deserve to be a parent of Wooju now. I don't care anymore. I will watch this till the end because it's irritating the crap out of me, so I'm curious what other mess the writer can make.
As for the SML. If he's not a pretty face, no one would say a nice thing about him. He's the main reason FL was treated badly at work, and now he keeps pushing himself and almost forcing FL to date with him, even though he knows she has other priorities. I'm talking about Wooju.
I hate egotistic men, especially as a man.
This drama should've been about how these two are trying to raise a child who just lost his parents and dealing with mental health issues, but we never see anything about this or just barely scratched the surface.
The show is called "Our Universe" in Korean "WOOJU", yet the kid is basically just a plot device and they only use him for the cute scenes.
The last 2 episodes were irritating as hell.
Also, FL's friend is like batshit crazy too. She should be locked up in a padded room. Why is she acting like a 5 year old too? I swear no one on this drama knows what critical thinking means.
Lastly, if I were the ML, I would've kicked out FL already, because I'm so done with her not answering the goddamn phone when she has a 2 year old at home, unless it's a pretty "Sunbae". Somehow she always knows how to pick up the phone when he calls.
It's one thing to have feelings for someone after 7 years IF you actually had a relationship with that person,…
Yes, it's painful but also a lot of fun and everything real life can offer. I learned later that Aesun and Gwansik was based on a real couple.
Yeah, I don't get why they need to add so much nonsense in a 12 ep long drama. Tbh, I don't really care about the episode count, because a show can be short or long it doesn't matter if the writing is bad.
I watched dramas with 50+ episodes and I loved some of those, and I watched 8 episode dramas and some were also good. It's all about writing. I don't mind fillers if it makes sense or at least is entertaining.
I can watch anything, it doesn't matter when it was released. The oldest movie I watched was released in 1922 a black and white horror: Nosferatu. A vampire movie. If the story is good, it's going to be good 100 years from now too. My problem with old movies and shows that it's hard to watch them legally or even illegaly.😅
"Will The Judge from Hell have a 2nd season?"
When they won an international Award, the director said they're planning to make the 2nd season, but no date yet.
Shinhye is a great actress. I say this without any bias. Some of her older shows are not top-tier but still fun. Like "The Heirs" or "Pinoccio". The "Doctors" and "Alhambra" were kind of meh, but not because of her. "Doctor Slump" was great, and so far her new drama "Miss Hong" is also great.
Kim Jae Yeong was surprisingly good. It was surprising because I didn't know him before "TJFH", and now he was good in "Idol I" as well. BTW, he has a smaller role in "Tangerines" too.😅
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He doesn't deserve the blame for what his dad did, but he does deserve the criticism for being an ignorant fool.
She's a typical codependent woman, that's why she doesn't want to choose. She always had her sister who helped her, and now she wants these guys to do the same.
He's only nice to her because they're not dating officially yet.
FL is clearly codependent, and SML is an obsessed typical man who doesn't care about anything else and just wants to get the girl. That's not a good start for a healthy relationship.
And these are just a couple of things. If he's not a pretty face everyone would call him a red flag.
No good guys do things like this.
As I already told you. You're obviously too young to understand, you live in Disneyland. The fact that you're talking about my gender proves how clueless you are and you only care about pretty boys.
This woman wants to be with SML who is a red flag. The guy only hired her because he's obsessed with her. He doesn't care about what's going on with her life, doesn't care about what's happening at the building he owns, and doesn't care about the fact that how people are treating his so called "love" at their company. Meanwhile, FL is flirting with him and ML as well, and barely does anything for Wooju.
This isn't about women, it's about ONE woman who clearly don't deserve to be a mother let alone be in a good relationship.
Maybe when you grow up you're gonna understand.
"Motherhood is a punishment." Okay, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. Like, you're next level crazy. Sorry not sorry.
Wooju should be ML and FL should be the red flag SML. That's the real happy ending. She don't deserve to be a mother. That's the fact.
At this point SML is the real ML. She doesn't deserve Wooju at all.
Taking care of Wooju is HER job, she signed up for that job, ML never wanted to be a parent. I don't even remember why he moved in. It happened because his new home got messed up or something. That's also a bullshit plot btw. ML is there only so the writer can fantasise about a love triangle. That's all.
Not sure what show you're watching, but based on what you're saying, you're definitely watching something else.
ML with Wooju and FL with the red flag SML. I want to see her struggle in a toxic relationship while ML being happy with the kid and later finding the right woman maybe.
This isn't character development, this is neglecting a child. Also, this is only 12 episodes and 8 were about a love triangle. They can't save this now. They already messed it up. Even if the ending is good, it won't make the drama better. Who's gonna forget all the mess between? I won't, that's for sure.
"thats fine bc the ML is there for her which she subconsiously recognizes"
My point exactly. She knows he's there, so she can date another guy while she's flirting with her "butler" as well. That's not a woman you should keep for long or at all.
"I am hoping in our next week of episodes she will confess and apologize to him bc thats only thing to make dmg control."
Based on the teaser, I don't think this is going to happen. They might end this stupid love triangle in EP11.
For me, the best ending would be ML with Wooju and FL with toxic Boss. They deserve each other.
In real life, the Child Protection Service would be all over them and have taken the kid already. Especially after they let the "dad" take care of him.
Sure, what you're saying makes sense on paper, but it's still irritating as hell. ML is basically a butler at this point.
When he moved in I thought we might get some parenting scenes and obviously romance, but no, they barely had any meaningful scenes together, especially 3 of them. Since EP3 or EP4 SML is basically the ML.
I said this already, but this woman is clearly not qualified to be a mother yet. Tbh, she's not qualified to be in a romantic relationship either, but that's my opinion. I would never date someone who can't make up their mind and always says yes.
Is there a character who's not an idiot other than Wooju? FL is literally flirting with ML and then goes on a date with her boss twice. Let's say how it is.
Regardless of gender, I DESPISE EVERYONE who thinks it's okay to have two irons in the fire. They don't deserve to be in a real relationship. I don't give a damn about excuses. You can do it when you're a kid, but when your main priority should be raising a kid it's not okay at all. I don't care about the romance anymore, because it's obvious who's the endgame, this is just a poorly written dragged out love triangle for no reason.
I've seen a lot of badly written female characters in my life, but this girl is probably in the TOP3. She can't say no to anyone.
The whole mess at her work was also done poorly. Like, the whole situation was solved in 2 minutes, basically.
EP8 and the overall story in these 2 episodes:
You know, I really hate when parents who abandon their kids come back and act like nothing happened, but what irritates me the most is FL and ML just let him take care of Wooju even though neither of them knows shit about the guy. ML knows his past, he knows he's not someone you should trust. Yet, after 2 days of being nice, they're basically treating him like a savior. Like, that's just being stupid on another level.
If I'm being honest, neither FL nor ML deserve to be a parent of Wooju now. I don't care anymore. I will watch this till the end because it's irritating the crap out of me, so I'm curious what other mess the writer can make.
As for the SML. If he's not a pretty face, no one would say a nice thing about him. He's the main reason FL was treated badly at work, and now he keeps pushing himself and almost forcing FL to date with him, even though he knows she has other priorities. I'm talking about Wooju.
I hate egotistic men, especially as a man.
This drama should've been about how these two are trying to raise a child who just lost his parents and dealing with mental health issues, but we never see anything about this or just barely scratched the surface.
The show is called "Our Universe" in Korean "WOOJU", yet the kid is basically just a plot device and they only use him for the cute scenes.
The last 2 episodes were irritating as hell.
Also, FL's friend is like batshit crazy too. She should be locked up in a padded room. Why is she acting like a 5 year old too? I swear no one on this drama knows what critical thinking means.
Lastly, if I were the ML, I would've kicked out FL already, because I'm so done with her not answering the goddamn phone when she has a 2 year old at home, unless it's a pretty "Sunbae". Somehow she always knows how to pick up the phone when he calls.
Rant over, good night.😂
Yeah, I don't get why they need to add so much nonsense in a 12 ep long drama. Tbh, I don't really care about the episode count, because a show can be short or long it doesn't matter if the writing is bad.
I watched dramas with 50+ episodes and I loved some of those, and I watched 8 episode dramas and some were also good. It's all about writing. I don't mind fillers if it makes sense or at least is entertaining.
I can watch anything, it doesn't matter when it was released. The oldest movie I watched was released in 1922 a black and white horror: Nosferatu. A vampire movie. If the story is good, it's going to be good 100 years from now too. My problem with old movies and shows that it's hard to watch them legally or even illegaly.😅
"Will The Judge from Hell have a 2nd season?"
When they won an international Award, the director said they're planning to make the 2nd season, but no date yet.
Shinhye is a great actress. I say this without any bias. Some of her older shows are not top-tier but still fun. Like "The Heirs" or "Pinoccio". The "Doctors" and "Alhambra" were kind of meh, but not because of her. "Doctor Slump" was great, and so far her new drama "Miss Hong" is also great.
Kim Jae Yeong was surprisingly good. It was surprising because I didn't know him before "TJFH", and now he was good in "Idol I" as well. BTW, he has a smaller role in "Tangerines" too.😅