I don't know what are you on. For me Ben is handsome but soft, Jai is cute but bold. They fit well with each other.…
and thats exactly what makes it unappealing to me as a fan of height/size difference couples. This seme is not masc (and not handsome imo) and the uke looks way too bold/strong and not pure. He does not fit the pure cute vibe that Gun (pre-surgery) or Fluke Natouch had.
They purposely made a bad attempt at making a height difference couple following the heteronormative tropes because the industry/establishment are intentionally erasing the submissive cute/pure uke. It hasn't been represented in any BL dramas recently yet thats what some fans really want to see. All we want is OPTIONS. We don't want to be forced to support a masc uke (or versatile coupling) that we have no interest in.
i don't think it's propaganda it's what production companies think viewers wantit's also what i wantthat heteronormative…
"i find this couple of junior and sun follows the trope well enough"
NO THEY DON'T. They look terrible together in my opinion. the seme isn't handsome + the uke does not have the approachable look or soft facial features (and he also looks mature). They also don't have much of a size difference. Its just not heartwarming to me.
They're not doing the heteronormative height difference trope justice and the BL industry intentionally does that by constantly miscasting (whether it be the seme or the uke). Its always either "the seme is unattractive" or "the uke does not fit the cute image". They never get it right with both roles/images. thats why Thai BL is so disappointing nowadays.
the propaganda is they don't want to portray it good on purpose. They've been slowly erasing proper twink actors who fit the cute image recently, while at the same they expect height difference fans like me to support ukes who aren't cute twinks (i'm ALWAYS having to press "not interested" when it comes to them). We're not being listened to or catered to imo.
1: i'm not liking the visuals of the casts (they tried following the image/formula of height difference couples but did a bad job of it again)
2: the director is a known racist that puts dark skin lgbt people in minstrel show tropes / negative stereotypes (this was in LBC if you need a source, i'm not making it up)
normalize boycotting racist directors if you even have a decent amount of empathy towards people with dark skin. we are at the mercy of these rich companies that are OWNED by light skin chinese people in asia. they'll only give a f**k if the consumer does.
I'm tired of them trying to sell us "height difference pairings" where the uke isn't soft or cute enough. its not THAT hard to find someone short and cute in tailand. this is how i can tell they just don't want to promote that kind of pairing anymore. EVERYTHING is propaganda nowadays. Its either masc4masc, "versatile", and nothing else. All i want is literally ONE show where they look like the traditional yaoi manga pairing. Give us options damnit!
im sad he got a surgery he lost his pureness and charm
agreed. the surgery ruined his cuteness, his youthfulness, and his natural unique beauty.
If fans want to stan someone with a "cute image". now we have less options. Fluke is the only one left and when he retires, we will have no one else to represent that sadly....
It's very ironic that you claim to be this activist while using the same rhetoric that's used against darkskin…
" you should focus that energy on doing something positive like promoting actress who are darkskin"
except asian industries intentionally don't hire dark skin asian women who have a positive feminine image. they only hire the dark skin women who portray negative stereotypes or are heavily masculinized. If you compare this to the representation that light skin asian women get, they are able to have feminine women with soft facial features represent them all the time. this is NOT equality. its blatant racism that the industry pushes to promote a colorist agenda.
P@t is NOT positive representation. She has a lot of negative qualities to her. She is a rich unattractive nepobaby undeserving of her career and is a glorified Jezebel stereotype. She also "fakes" dark skin too, so she isn't even authentic dark skin representation. Shes just a tan filter phony.
If you want to educate yourself, i suggest you read about the antiblack stereotypes that are universally promoted on dark skin women in many asian countries. The agenda behind it is to make women with light skin look more desirable and to make dark skin look less attractive. Thats main reason behind the racist propaganda. Until we get diverse representation for dark skin women, we need to keep having these conversations. Its important.
I will never support nepobabies, fake dark skin representation or negative stereotypes like her. PERIOD.
With every word you spout being nonsense you got the interactions. Good job attention seeker
Well none of them are short twinks. So therefore i don't care about any of them. That is my right as a CONSUMER with a preference. I wouldnt call anyone who stans those double masc / versatile pairings a "fetishist" because they have every right to choose what they want to support just like i do. I only care about height difference couples and you can't dictate what anyone is "suppose" to support in your mind. You just look like a communist with an agenda when you try to dictate other people's preferences.
If i choose to support a girl celebrity, does that make me a "fetishist" for girls? You sound ridiculous and your comments are not rooted in logic 🤣🤣🤣
Height difference couples are ostracized in the industry (ESPECIALLY gmmtv) and there are barely any viable options.
EDIT: to that Loter nincompoop below. My original comment has 6 upvotes. for the "2nd account" accusations you make, then what about the other 5?? Delusional fans need to stop attacking others for VALID opinions. If you don't agree, then don't comment.
Do you travel from prehistory with that discriminating thought? The only explanation I can find for what you wrote,…
0ff is a nepobaby who had his fame orchestrated for him. Thats why he needed a short twink in order to get famous. He didnt have the visuals to earn a career in the hetero market on his own. He needed BL to be relevant, lets be honest.
Even when he was cast as Pick, he was VERY out of shape. He had a beer keg gut yet Gun had abs and was able to be shirtless. That just proves that they lowered the standards for 0ff and his bad visuals/body/"talent"
Meanwhile Gun has had a prominent acting career since he was a child. That already speaks volumes for his talent as an actor. He actually had to work his way up organically in the showbiz industry. So much more respectable than 0ff's nepobaby background tbh.
Do you travel from prehistory with that discriminating thought? The only explanation I can find for what you wrote,…
all i can say to this is that even Gun agrees. Look at what he posted in Tor's instagram. Even he likes guys with six pack. You can tell he was really feeling Tor's handsome looks during their time on Midnight Museum! https://www.instagram.com/p/C9EzAYVymxo/c/17848247079224186/
With every word you spout being nonsense you got the interactions. Good job attention seeker
plenty of people on twitter and tiktok be ghostshipping him like crazy. trust me, some fans are DESPERATE for something that matches the traditional yaoi pairings from the mangas.
With every word you spout being nonsense you got the interactions. Good job attention seeker
I don't need the attention. I need a BL height difference couple that matches my aesthetic. Publicly advocating for what you want is the only way you can get it.
so you are calling Off ugly as if Gun is Miss Universe or I don't know what.... Oh Lord....
well "ugly" is a strong word. Lets just say Gun has good visuals (well he kinda ruined it a little with the Plastic Surgery he did lately) while the other one's visuals does not fit the standards for the entertainment industry in my opinion.
Do you travel from prehistory with that discriminating thought? The only explanation I can find for what you wrote,…
Gun has more followers and more likes on his MDL page. I'm not the only one who feels this way. Gun is hardcarrying this pairing with his cuteness. Hes always been the main selling point of the ship. 0ff is replaceable. Gun needs someone that matches him more in terms of visuals and talent. He needs a tall handsome masculine guy. 0ff isn't that guy.
you can feel free to disagree, but there is nothing wrong with advocating for a better partner.
Off is not the classic "goodlooking guy" with the perfect face but that's what makes him so attractive! Plus he's…
I disagree. He does not have any masculinity compared to all the other seme's at his company and his facial features are just not it. thats why hes not likely to be getting leading roles in hetero dramas compared to the others.
men in the asian entertainment industry either excel at being cute/soft or being handsome/masculine/sexy. He fits neither category.
I'm glad people are dragging this show. Gun needs a new partner. Why does every other BL couple at GMMTV get a Seme that is manly and attractive except for Gun? Its outrageous. He deserves someone that looks good. Stop giving short twinks unattractive partners!
They purposely made a bad attempt at making a height difference couple following the heteronormative tropes because the industry/establishment are intentionally erasing the submissive cute/pure uke. It hasn't been represented in any BL dramas recently yet thats what some fans really want to see. All we want is OPTIONS. We don't want to be forced to support a masc uke (or versatile coupling) that we have no interest in.
follows the trope well enough"
NO THEY DON'T. They look terrible together in my opinion. the seme isn't handsome + the uke does not have the approachable look or soft facial features (and he also looks mature). They also don't have much of a size difference. Its just not heartwarming to me.
They're not doing the heteronormative height difference trope justice and the BL industry intentionally does that by constantly miscasting (whether it be the seme or the uke). Its always either "the seme is unattractive" or "the uke does not fit the cute image". They never get it right with both roles/images. thats why Thai BL is so disappointing nowadays.
the propaganda is they don't want to portray it good on purpose. They've been slowly erasing proper twink actors who fit the cute image recently, while at the same they expect height difference fans like me to support ukes who aren't cute twinks (i'm ALWAYS having to press "not interested" when it comes to them). We're not being listened to or catered to imo.
1: i'm not liking the visuals of the casts (they tried following the image/formula of height difference couples but did a bad job of it again)
2: the director is a known racist that puts dark skin lgbt people in minstrel show tropes / negative stereotypes (this was in LBC if you need a source, i'm not making it up)
normalize boycotting racist directors if you even have a decent amount of empathy towards people with dark skin. we are at the mercy of these rich companies that are OWNED by light skin chinese people in asia. they'll only give a f**k if the consumer does.
If fans want to stan someone with a "cute image". now we have less options. Fluke is the only one left and when he retires, we will have no one else to represent that sadly....
except asian industries intentionally don't hire dark skin asian women who have a positive feminine image. they only hire the dark skin women who portray negative stereotypes or are heavily masculinized. If you compare this to the representation that light skin asian women get, they are able to have feminine women with soft facial features represent them all the time. this is NOT equality. its blatant racism that the industry pushes to promote a colorist agenda.
P@t is NOT positive representation. She has a lot of negative qualities to her. She is a rich unattractive nepobaby undeserving of her career and is a glorified Jezebel stereotype. She also "fakes" dark skin too, so she isn't even authentic dark skin representation. Shes just a tan filter phony.
If you want to educate yourself, i suggest you read about the antiblack stereotypes that are universally promoted on dark skin women in many asian countries. The agenda behind it is to make women with light skin look more desirable and to make dark skin look less attractive. Thats main reason behind the racist propaganda. Until we get diverse representation for dark skin women, we need to keep having these conversations. Its important.
I will never support nepobabies, fake dark skin representation or negative stereotypes like her. PERIOD.
If i choose to support a girl celebrity, does that make me a "fetishist" for girls? You sound ridiculous and your comments are not rooted in logic 🤣🤣🤣
Height difference couples are ostracized in the industry (ESPECIALLY gmmtv) and there are barely any viable options.
EDIT: to that Loter nincompoop below. My original comment has 6 upvotes. for the "2nd account" accusations you make, then what about the other 5?? Delusional fans need to stop attacking others for VALID opinions. If you don't agree, then don't comment.
Even when he was cast as Pick, he was VERY out of shape. He had a beer keg gut yet Gun had abs and was able to be shirtless. That just proves that they lowered the standards for 0ff and his bad visuals/body/"talent"
Meanwhile Gun has had a prominent acting career since he was a child. That already speaks volumes for his talent as an actor. He actually had to work his way up organically in the showbiz industry. So much more respectable than 0ff's nepobaby background tbh.
you can feel free to disagree, but there is nothing wrong with advocating for a better partner.
men in the asian entertainment industry either excel at being cute/soft or being handsome/masculine/sexy. He fits neither category.
The results of whatever he did makes him look abnormal and older. He should have stayed natural!