Maggi64

Didn't either of you guys read my subsequent comment where I conceded this? Right below my original post I had said that the people around her should have gotten her help. But S. Korea has a problem with people not seeking mental health treatment. They have the #1 Highest Suicide Rate in the World.

Read my comment above. I just finished saying that the people around her should have gotten her help. Especially since her hormones would've been out of whack with a pregnancy. But S. Korea has a problem with people not seeking mental health treatment. They have the #1 Highest Suicide Rate in the World.

I just checked Viki and it says Available Today. But it still hasn't dropped. Sometimes Viki will say "available today" but not actually drop the show until the next day. GagaOOlala is more accurate. Do you know when they said they'd drop it?

Wait, where did you see ep 5? I thought only ep 4 was released today.

I don't blame you for dropping the manhwa. It was bad. I basically began skimming at a certain point. But if you'd continued you'd have discovered that neither of the boys touched each other's neck, so it's not a question of buying that straight guys give each other hickeys.

Later on in the manhwa it's explained that Long Haired Boy already had a hickey, so Bratty Boy teased him, saying no girl would kiss him and called it a mosquito bite. So Long Haired Boy pounced on him on the nurses table, and they wrestled and rough housed a bit. You know, like guys giving each other a wedgie.
Neither of them touched lips on the others neck.

When this explanation came later on I just groaned. I thought, "Really, Miss Writer? You just took the best bit in your whole crappy manhwa and rendered it null and void?"

Totally agree that the mother did not get the psychological help she needed. Funny, but I became obsessed with Asian Cinema 3 years ago and now watch nothing but Asian shows and movies. I love Asian culture. However, I cannot help but notice that they are behind when it comes to mental health. Seeking mental health treatment is still taboo there. That's why this show portrayed it as perfectly normal that the mother's husband and sister did not take her to a hospital for treatment. Ignoring depression is so bad in S. Korea that it has the #1 Highest Suicide Rate in the World.

You nailed it. S. Korea ranks as #1 Highest Suicides and #1 Highest Plastic Surgery in the world. It's not a coincidence that this country has both more suicides and more plastic surgeries than anywhere else on the planet. People are seeking outward physical perfection with plastic surgery, while struggling with the inner fears that lead to suicide. So these 2 things are connected.

Idols, of course, are especially held to unrealistic standards of beauty (30 idols have killed themselves in the past decade alone). But non-celebs are getting plastic surgery too. And I don't mean old people getting a little nip/tuck, which is fine. I mean attractive, young Koreans get plastic surgery in a quest for perfection.

As for the way the fandom treats the idols in Asia, christ, that makes me ill. I am not some Patriot who goes around cheering for America, but when it comes to addiction, I am sorry, I am proud of how my country treats its addicts. Whenever we hear about a celeb struggling with addiction or going to rehab, we wish them the best and hope they have a careercomeback. I am sickened by what I hear about fans trashing Yoo Ah In online.

BTW, what do you mean by Idols and hoax bullying stories?

Oops, then I guess I spoiled it for you when I said that they not only don't have sex, but do not even kiss. And listen, if they do not kiss in a manhwa, it will NOT be in the show. As I've explained, the Asians are not merely faithful to mangas/manhwas, they are fanatically, religiously faithful. In the "Old Fashioned Cupcake" manga there's a drawing of the guys in the alleyway at the end about to kiss. I read the manga before seeing the final episode and when I looked at the drawing of two guys with their lips only 1/10th of inch apart, I assumed it was a drawing of a kiss and that there'd be, therefore, a kiss in the final episode. Nope. That 1/10th of an inch of white space between their lips meant their lips technically did not touch. So they also did not touch in the show. In short, there shall be no kissing in ASTCO.

I can see how an actor would be upset that their movie is being cancelled cuz all his movie projects were just cancelled. But if they really wanted to make a point, they should stop being cowards and come out publicly and say that this is unfair and they want Yoo Ah In reinstated in his movie projects. Because right now the complaints are anonymous. At least the WaPo article did not give any names.

I just read it on the FB fan page. It cut the article up into smaller segments, so you have to scroll through it bit by bit, but it's all there. It was interesting how it compared the unforgiving attitude toward addiction in Korea with the totally forgiving attitude toward addiction in the West.

I didn't merely dislike the Aunt, I also disliked the mother. Consider how her adopted son was worried that she did not love him as much as she would've if he'd been biologically hers. How does she respond to this? Why, she proves him right by deciding the world's not worth living in without a precious biological child, and just leaves the adopted kid abandoned and confused for the rest of his life.

I tried to google Washington Post but there's a paywall. Will I be able to read the article if I go to this Facebook page?

Great idea! Thank you so much for doing this.

I use both terms -- illness and disease. I also know that some people say, oh, technically it's not a disease. But why not? Consider that the following is the Oxford Dictionary's definition of "disease."

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Disease: a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes.

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Well, addiction fits that definition. Scientists have even located a gene that's passed on from family members, so we know that it's inherited too. All considered, it's crazy to treat addicts as if they are morally degenerate. Sure, an addict has a responsibility to try to stay sober, but otherwise one should not judge them as immoral. And the Korean Entertainment Factory has certainly judged Yoo Ah In as immoral. Ugh.

Regarding it being faithful to the manhwa, now you know why I said the show would not have a sex scene. Of course, few K-BL's have sex scenes so that wasn't really a spoiler (Bleuming is the only K-BL to have a sex scene, and even that was very tame as it was shot in silhouette, with only one of the guys going shirtless). But it would have been a spoiler if I told you that according to the manhwa there is also not going to be a kiss in this show. This is even further backed up by the fact that these two are in the very same boyband together. It'll be too hard for 2 heteros in the same band to smooch. Hell, their agents probably handed them this project precisely because there'd be no sex or smooching.

As you know from the manhwa, it ends with the 2 guys living together basically as buddies. Then there's a bonus chapter where the adopted one says to the former archer that he's thinking about having sex with him. Umm, at this point, they are in their mid 20s with full time jobs yet they're still just "thinking about" having sex? In "Cherry Blossoms After Winter's" manhwa the boys lived together at college for two years before finally having sex. Two years! This is when you know that this shit is written by women. No man gay or straight would ask us to believe that a human male in his teens to twenties is not doing either a partner or himself daily.

Once again, I agree with you down the line. And I truly did chuckle out loud at this line:

"It would have been much more interesting to have had the prez's baby sibling be born, then have him manipulate the auntie out onto the balcony while holding the baby, where he would push them off, then go back to his coloring book."

It's the image of the cutie-pie blithely coloring afterward that cracks me up.

BTW, I take it that you are now reading the manhwa for Shoulder to Cry On. Do you see what I meant by how that hot opening scene from Ep 1 in the Nurses' Office turned out to be a ruse? That was the scene that had me hooked because I thought, wow, look at these bratty, carefree, horny teenage boys not only necking in the nurse's office, but the bratty boy saying "Shush!" in a really sexy, saucy way to the archery kid.

Then it turns out that neither boy is gay. The long haired kid's girlfriend gave him the hickey and when bratty boy teased him about it, he wrestled him on top of the nurse's bed and threatened to give him a hickey as well. In short, they were just 2 guys horsing around. They might as well have been giving each other wedgies.

I liked the show so much better when I thought the bratty boy had given the long haired boy the hickey. I also liked it better when I thought long haired boy was in love with bratty boy and jealous of archery boy. I figured he'd locked them inside storage room cuz he was jealous and pissed off. Nope, he's got a girlfriend so he's not jealous. It was just a schoolboy prank.

So all the heat that was generated in Ep 1 turned out to have been a cheat. No necking in the nurses office. No jealousy. No horny, bratty boy wanting to diddle archery boy. What's that leave us? Well, a childhood trauma about an adopted child whose shitty parents obsessed on having a biological child. I can get that plotline handled better elsewhere. So I am unlikely to finish this show.

I've dropped every recent K-BL (The New Employee, Roommates of Poongdunck, Oh My Assistant, The Director Who Buys Me Dinner). However, I know I will finish and enjoy "All the Liquors" and "Our Dating Sim." I will also finish "Unintentional Love Story" but I'm unlikely to enjoy it that much because the set up is so forced. I mean, a dude's stalking a pottery maker simply cuz the CEO of his former company likes the pottery, and this makes him think he'll get his job back. I cringed during that whole section of the show where he was harassing pottery maker for a job. Oh, and according to the preview, next week some accident necessitates his moving in with Pottery Guy for a week. You know, because that plot device has not been used 6,000 times in rom-coms.

OK, ranting is finito.

I have googled this question because it baffles me. Especially since Asians are not known for experiencing racial self-hate the way, say, some black people do. To the contrary, Asians are fiercely proud of their race to the extent of being isolationist and making it extremely difficult for foreigners to settle there. Yet there they are drawing manga and manhwa characters as straight up white people rather than Asians. While researching this question, I found a youtube clip with a guy trying to make the case that the characters are not "white" but just some alien form of humans with big, round saucer eyes. Well, ok, but who has big round saucer eyes and white skin? Caucasians!

I just went Netflix and under contacts I saw this number:

1-844-505-2993

I called and got the same response that another commenter here had gotten. That is, we both spoke to some representative who just nodded along saying, "Yea, yea, yea." She said her basic job is to help with technical issues, so I asked, "Then who is the correct person with whom to speak about this kind of issue?" She said she did not know and that was that.

In short, I still have no idea who to email/call at Netflix to voice such a complaint. But if any of you gets through, you don't have to threaten to cancel you subscription like I did. You can simply say, "I am disappointed by Netflix's silence about a star who's made you millions; and want you to issue a statement expressing sympathy and support to Yoo Ah In and his family during this difficult time."

I just went Netflix and under contacts I saw this number:

1-844-505-2993

Then it gave a code and said we could enter the 6 digit code. Try again, because it might have been down temporarily.