Michelle Topham

The whole fan girl culture is toxic to the C-drama industry. It kicks off online abuse by one group of obsessive idiots supposedly "defending" an actor against another group of obsessive idiots "defending" their actor. While the actors themselves just wish it would all stop.

Fan toxicity has damaged actors' careers (look at the whole mess with The Untamed's Xiao Zhan and Wang Yi Bo, who lost jobs because of their "fans" obsessive behavior "shipping" the actors in real life to such an extent they are now forbidden from ever working together again). Nothing the actors did, just their crazy out-of-control fans who had to create a whole fabricated reality to fit their twisted brains.

It's obsessive, bizarre and weird, and can be highly damaging to the actors themselves. The actors that they, supposedly, "care" about.

Enjoy the CHARACTERS, don't enjoy the CHARACTERS, but FFS stop "defending" an actor from something he never asked you to defend him from.

Reading some of the comments in here is a truly bizarre look into the mind of a "fan girl". People who can't separate character from actor, and are jumping all over other people who are criticizing a CHARACTER because it, apparently, "defames" Winwin.

And people calling it "body shaming" by those commenting about the physique of Ye Xian (commenting that, of course, he couldn't ever be a military figure as he's the size of a pencil -- all, of course, a deliberate thinness by both Winwin and the producers/director to show that the CHARACTER is sick).

You all really need to grow up and stop spending your finite life on this planet "defending" an actor who, frankly, probably finds your obsessive attention really really disturbing.

FFS. It's creepy.

The writing is superb. Some of the best I've ever seen in a C-drama, and I've watched thousands. It's also a brilliant job if you read the original novel, as the screenwriter has managed to create an incredible drama from a novel that's completely different to this.

It's for the 2nd male lead. The first ML isn't remotely responsible. In fact, he's completely the opposite :)

It's a superb opening 8 minutes, from the lantern scene in the first seconds of Episode 1 to where she is being pulled away from Chen Yan Yun by her cousin. She's only 15, and she already knows what she likes. :)

One of the best first 8 minutes I've seen in a C-drama in a long time. And filmed and acted beautifully.

Yep. Lots of it :) And pretty early on in the drama too. It's very satisfying :)

Keep watching. How she deals with everything is brilliant :) Remember. She's not an idiot. And she's proven that from the very first scene of Episode 1.

What? It's one of the most liked dramas ongoing right now. It's amazing. Read the comments properly.

Hahahaha, crazy that obsession, isn't it? And I think we all have it.

I'd heard and read that it wasn't good, so had put off watching it even though I like both leads. Started watching it 3 days ago, but expected to be dropping it a couple of episodes in. Just wanted to see how the leads did.

Absolutely ADDICTED less than 5 minutes in (opening scenes are some of the best I've seen in a recent C-drama to really pull the viewer in), and binged every episode while trying to also do my 15-hour a day job. Needless to say, sleep has been in an issue :)

Yep. :) I think it will probably increase again when it finishes, as a lot of people don't rate until a drama ends, and... some people give it a 1 at Episode 1 even if they're not watching it :)

Most people watching it though seem to like it, so I think it will eventually end up at an 8.5 to 8.7. Fingers crossed as it deserves a high rating, IMO :)

Hahaha, and isn't it awful how Google has taken over the lexicon? I actually DuckDuckGo'd it, but still say "Googled" even though I never use that search engine :)

Yep. I have the same response :) "Get some meat on them bones, or you'll fall over in a stiff wind" as both of my grandmas used to say. :)

Not until the 1890s. Started in the UK, but it was a while before they became the norm (knew they started in the UK but wasn't sure on the date, just Googled it, so I'm not some weird fact whiz :)

And yep, definitely a clothing tag. Something the wardrobe dept and the director obviously missed :) (There are so many bloopers tho in dramas all over the world - always fun to see them :)

Their English subs are always terrible. What I always do if it's a Mango series is watch it on a bootleg site (subs are almost always perfect there), but then also let every episode run at the same time on Mango's YouTube channel on my phone.

I know, I'm strange :), but that does give the show/the director/the actors/the writer views and the streaming service advertising revenue (I always let the ads run), without me having to suffer thru horrible subs I barely understand :)

That's why I'm stuck :)

People usually commit suicide when their minds are not in their normal state. Hers was not. I had a 19-year-old cousin hang himself after his girlfriend broke up with him, and he went out and got drunk. If he hadn't been drunk, and had just gone on with his life, he would probably have been over it in a few weeks. But... a young person in intense pain, then mixed with alcohol, and that was the result. Heart-breaking.

Currently stuck on it as I, unfortunately, read about the ending and haven't gotten passed Episode 4 since. - hahahaha. (Will get back to it soon, as I love the leads, I just got caught up with work and several other dramas I was trying to finish).

I do plan on watching Forever and Ever though, as I know that's the modern day telling of the relationship. With a much better ending. :)

Oh interesting. I did not know that but it makes sense. Thanks for the info :)

I work around 15 hours a day, 7 days a week and, let's just say, my work has suffered over the last three days. LOL

And it's crazy addictive, isn't it? I rarely become this obsessed with a C-drama, but this grabbed me from the opening scenes with the lantern and the ML striding towards her :)

Yep, Exactly. I'm originally British, and that has been the case in Britain for most of our history.

And I think that's been the case throughout most of the world for most of humanity. It's only in the last 200 and odd years or so, during and after the Industrial Revolution, that people have started to admire those who make huge amounts of money off their own work, and have disdain for people who live off their family's money while not contributing much.

BTW, I have no problem with people who grow up wealthy if, when they become an adult, they work hard and contribute to society just like the rest of us. Some do, and some don't.