Oh yes I agree that Wu ZhongHeng might be the ultimate villain. I was surprised to find out that he was Huai An's and Xiao Wenjing's teacher back at the Grand Academy. Yan Fengshan also spoke very highly of his intelligence. But I wonder how did a Tie mo person like him become a teacher at the Grand Academy and then ended up being imprisoned by YFS? What is his role in everything? I'm really curious too.
The dedication!! Omg...Gu Yu, Chancellor Gao, and everyone else. Although Yan Fengshan may have won big this time, Huai An and all his allies have not given up 😭😭😭I actually really respect Chancellor Gao. Although he was ready to abandon Gu Yu before, he's goal and priority is the country. He's a grey character and also a really smart character.
Didn't expect that I'll actually feel kind of bad for Wang Pu but this drama did it again. Also didn't expect him to go out like this but I'll take it.
We got a glimpse at what happened at Chen Valley 25 years ago, quite brutal indeed. I wonder how does it tie to Yan Fengshan's eventual betrayal?
Gao isn’t dead. He’s the crippled guy who was struggling to get into the throne room
It wasn't explicitly shown or mentioned but now that Yan Fengshan controls Chang An, Chancellor Gao probably got crippled and demoted on Yan Fengshan's orders.
Why do I feel like Xiao Wu Yang will be killed? I do not see him stay on that throne at all.
I think Xiao Wuyang himself doesn't want to stay on the throne if possible 🤣. He is a general, the best ending for him (if he were to die) is to die on the battlefield.
Wow I can't believe I really like Episode 14 even though it's a "slower" episode. Despite lacking action, I was eating up all the dialogues. I wasn't expecting some (minor) plot twists. People were not kidding when they said it was like the calm before the storm!
Not telling his sister the truth left her vulnerable. She couldn’t protect herself and be cautious about someone…
Tbh, I think Huai An did well by letting her live a normal life. It's just that Yan Fengshan has too many shadow guards and his information network is so wide. I actually think if Huai An never wrote letters to his sister, she may be able to live. There's no use to tell her, it's not like she can protect herself well enough even if she knows. Yan Fengshan is just too strong!
Episode 13 was very very sad but also very beautiful. The first meeting scene of Yan Fengshan and Huai An was quite well done. Yan Fengshan killed Bai Wan but he seemed protective of her resting place. His eyes when looking at Huai An seemed to have a lot to say. He was most definitely a close friend of Liu Ziwen and a close uncle of the Liu siblings. I'm guessing that the wooden bamboo thing with "理" engraved on it was given to Bai Wan by him. I'm so curious why did he and Huben Army betray Liu Family.
I believe that Yan Fengshan is a grey character. He did so many bad things but there's an even bigger enemy and that is the Tie Mo people/country? The man that Yan Fengshan imprisoned is from Tie Mo. I remember something along the lines of "As long as you stay here, the world will be at peace," describing that man. I think Huben Army betraying Liu Family has to do with the imprisoned guy.
Bai Wan/Liu Li's death was really heartbreaking but I'm glad to know that she at least knew her real name and who her real brother was before dying. I still hope that her death is fake but that is 99.9% impossible 🥹.
How dare Y FS takes residence at general Liu 's house. The insult is too much.
That's the very interesting thing. It makes me so curious why did Huben Army and YFS betray Liu Ziwen? Yan Fengshan was probably Liu Ziwen's most trusted friend and subordinate. He wanted the Liu Family's house because it reminded him of "old friends".
Why does Fan General looks like he has alot to say to HuaiAn...
I have gotten mixed feelings about Yan Fengshan since early on. He probably was really close to Huai An's dad and was one of Huai An's close uncles. We need to know the backstory of why he betrayed Liu Ziwen :')
Since you said that you don't understand, let me give you an explanation.First, a lot of people have the misconception…
I understand what you mean! Actually this show was cut down from 32 episodes to 28 episodesdue to censorship. So 4 episodes full of content was cut, which is very significant.
As for the man with him in the weed field, he was someone that was indebted to the Liu Family. I don't think he knows martial arts though but maybe like street fighting? Xie Huai An actually knows how to "street fight" too, just not the proper martial arts. He is better at brains than brawn.
Also Nirvana in Fire is set in Wuxia setting too so there's more emphasis on martial arts.
Maybe because I'm an empath but imo wanting revenge is not completely a separate entity from having emotions.…
100% agree with what you said!! Love and hatred on just different sides of the same coin. For him to want revenge so badly, it's because he genuinely respected and loved those Huben uncles and aunties. Xie Huai An actually is stronger than me. I would've cried way more times hahaha. The scenes where he cried are also the scenes that I'll cry if I was in his shoes tbh...
Let me share with you all the Liu Siblings' original names.
**Possible slight spoilers on background information**
Xie Huai An's original name is 刘知 (Liu Zhi). 知 means knowledge and is a very scholarly name. Huai An was born with a whole head of white hair (extremely rare and odd trait) and it has been mentioned in ancient texts that people born with white hair will lead incredibly difficult lives filled with many hardships. Liu Ziwen's wish for his son is to be able to grow up healthy and happy and it could be deduced that he was reluctant for his son to join his Huben Army. Hence, Liu Ziwen named his son Liu Zhi with hopes that he can be a scholar instead, and even sent him to learn with the other princes/nobles at the Grand Academy. He probably hope that by doing this, his son could be away from the hardships of the army. Of course, this doesn't mean that he stops his son from hanging out with the Huben Army uncles/aunties/older brothers/sisters.
Bai Wan's original name is 刘理 (Liu Li). 理 means truth, reason, logic and is also a very scholarly name.
The '知' from Liu Zhi's nams and the '理' from Liu Li's name are found in the idiom '知书达理' which means to be well-educated, intelligent, and reasonable. Back in those days, where people are superstitious and names hold parents' wishes for their children, it can be deduced that Liu Ziwen wanted both his children to be well-educated rather than a focus on martial arts.
It's not that difficult to understand. Despite Liu Ziwen being the founder of the Huben Army, he may not want his own children to succeed it. Precisely because he is the founder of Huben Army, he knows the hardships of the army and do not want his own kids to be in it (unless they want it).
I still don't understand why he can't fight. It makes no sense that his father wouldn't have taught him martial…
Since you said that you don't understand, let me give you an explanation.
First, a lot of people have the misconception that his father must have taught him martial arts. Xie Huai An's original name is 刘知 (Liu Zhi). He was born with a whole head of white hair (extremely rare). It has been mentioned that for children born with white hair, their lives will be extremely difficult. His father knew from the start that his son will not have a good life, people back in the day were very superstitious. Hence, his father named him 刘知. 知 means knowledge and is a very scholarly name. I believe his father did not want him to join the Huben Army. His father even sent him to learn with other princes and nobles in the Grand Academy. From this, you can deduced that his father probably wanted him to live a life away from the hardships of the army, thinking that this can protect his son.
Second, Huai An's whole family was wiped out when he was only 10 years old. Lin Shu or Mei Changsu's family was wiped out when he was 19 years old (in the novel I think it was 16). Lin Shu was known as the young marshall and have been actively participating in his father's army since young. I will not say how he lost his martial arts because it's spoilers for NiF. Anyways, the point is it's very normal for 10 years old Huai An to not know any martial arts? I don't know what misconceptions you have that believe that born in military family = learning martial arts since toddler/preschool age? From 10 onwards, he became a fugitive, there's no way he can suddenly learn actual martial arts without an instructor/teacher.
We got a glimpse at what happened at Chen Valley 25 years ago, quite brutal indeed. I wonder how does it tie to Yan Fengshan's eventual betrayal?
I believe that Yan Fengshan is a grey character. He did so many bad things but there's an even bigger enemy and that is the Tie Mo people/country? The man that Yan Fengshan imprisoned is from Tie Mo. I remember something along the lines of "As long as you stay here, the world will be at peace," describing that man. I think Huben Army betraying Liu Family has to do with the imprisoned guy.
Bai Wan/Liu Li's death was really heartbreaking but I'm glad to know that she at least knew her real name and who her real brother was before dying. I still hope that her death is fake but that is 99.9% impossible 🥹.
As for the man with him in the weed field, he was someone that was indebted to the Liu Family. I don't think he knows martial arts though but maybe like street fighting? Xie Huai An actually knows how to "street fight" too, just not the proper martial arts. He is better at brains than brawn.
Also Nirvana in Fire is set in Wuxia setting too so there's more emphasis on martial arts.
**Possible slight spoilers on background information**
Xie Huai An's original name is 刘知 (Liu Zhi). 知 means knowledge and is a very scholarly name. Huai An was born with a whole head of white hair (extremely rare and odd trait) and it has been mentioned in ancient texts that people born with white hair will lead incredibly difficult lives filled with many hardships. Liu Ziwen's wish for his son is to be able to grow up healthy and happy and it could be deduced that he was reluctant for his son to join his Huben Army. Hence, Liu Ziwen named his son Liu Zhi with hopes that he can be a scholar instead, and even sent him to learn with the other princes/nobles at the Grand Academy. He probably hope that by doing this, his son could be away from the hardships of the army. Of course, this doesn't mean that he stops his son from hanging out with the Huben Army uncles/aunties/older brothers/sisters.
Bai Wan's original name is 刘理 (Liu Li). 理 means truth, reason, logic and is also a very scholarly name.
The '知' from Liu Zhi's nams and the '理' from Liu Li's name are found in the idiom '知书达理' which means to be well-educated, intelligent, and reasonable. Back in those days, where people are superstitious and names hold parents' wishes for their children, it can be deduced that Liu Ziwen wanted both his children to be well-educated rather than a focus on martial arts.
It's not that difficult to understand. Despite Liu Ziwen being the founder of the Huben Army, he may not want his own children to succeed it. Precisely because he is the founder of Huben Army, he knows the hardships of the army and do not want his own kids to be in it (unless they want it).
First, a lot of people have the misconception that his father must have taught him martial arts. Xie Huai An's original name is 刘知 (Liu Zhi). He was born with a whole head of white hair (extremely rare). It has been mentioned that for children born with white hair, their lives will be extremely difficult. His father knew from the start that his son will not have a good life, people back in the day were very superstitious. Hence, his father named him 刘知. 知 means knowledge and is a very scholarly name. I believe his father did not want him to join the Huben Army. His father even sent him to learn with other princes and nobles in the Grand Academy. From this, you can deduced that his father probably wanted him to live a life away from the hardships of the army, thinking that this can protect his son.
Second, Huai An's whole family was wiped out when he was only 10 years old. Lin Shu or Mei Changsu's family was wiped out when he was 19 years old (in the novel I think it was 16). Lin Shu was known as the young marshall and have been actively participating in his father's army since young. I will not say how he lost his martial arts because it's spoilers for NiF. Anyways, the point is it's very normal for 10 years old Huai An to not know any martial arts? I don't know what misconceptions you have that believe that born in military family = learning martial arts since toddler/preschool age? From 10 onwards, he became a fugitive, there's no way he can suddenly learn actual martial arts without an instructor/teacher.