Richaliya

Even tho I do not hate yanli but you've really highlighted his evils. The mind blowing to me is keeping the boys from there mothers. I can't imagine my life without my mom, only thinking about her death when she's so healthy makes me depressed and sobbing, what about those babies. That was so heartbreaking. And it's true if we measure the effect that sun had on changge if the same was given to khatun perhaps we would get similar effects. Forgiveness, kindness and renewable spirit. And at most love. Somehow she would have accepted the lose of sui dynasty and worked hard for sher to be a good khan setting a background level of kindness, peace or even making him marry a sui girl to somehow keep it relevant.

From the live discussion between sun,sheer and mujun on you tube, leo said in drama his older Than sheer. Even with the children used to represent them when young, sun was taller than sheer perhaps 1-2 years difference.

Am new to cdrama land actually covid brought me to that land just to know more about the country. My first drama was go go squid which I found different and hilarious. Both annoying and funny but still solid the patriotic arc and was impressed that I felt I was not that too patriotic to mine. Anyway the more I researched about there culture and entertainment industry. The netizens really have power coupled with there media and censorship. Back to the point. They can marry but surely they will be bashed by netizens which is depressing for them maybe even desert there movies. I find there will for foreigners with in East Asia somehow they feel they have some simillaries in culture. I have googled to find some but I don't think there still very active in the entertainment industry. Or may am wrong.

Cultural values is fine, but the patriotism part over all is what there selling more.i have watched korean dramas surely different cultural values but the essence of loyalty over the rest is less.

Even in modern dramas, it's about the glory of China. Anyway I related my statement to TLB because this forum is for it, but actually even in real life. Like it's hard for an actor to marry a foreigner mostly not from east asia you always think of the netizens opinion of that.

The exaggeration part is right, it's really hard for a person to navigate through politics, patriotism and personal preference. Somehow the latter is sacrificed for the two. Where is the borderline?I feel sorry for shuyu.

Can't believe my self how I laughed, all my co-workers were confused

Oh thanks

Ok, I know a great deal of people here do not like great khan behavior tho i find him a typical father figure of that Era mostly related to people of grasslands and there leadership.

Anyway to those who understand Chinese, I wanted to know in ep 18 when sun was grilling mutton leg for changge and told of a story of him and his father grilling mutton when he was young "was he talking about his biological father or father khan". But it sounds like father khan. Watching on viki and the translation doesn't differ of the two. Because if it's great khan then at least there is a good memory of a father once.

Some comments on bilibili are worth a replay, one commented :)
1) The long ballad makes me feel that my IQ is respected.
2)TLB is superb - called the best in history, a joke in the industry.

How true are those statements to most commentators in this forum.

Could it be that ashile sun always disguised himself in the battle mask that the tribes did not know him physically, same with hoadu knowing him in shou state, he had the mask on. With out the mask on he usually had tang clothes on in Central plains. For the case of leyan her inquisitive spirit is low even never dared to ask changge how she accepted to marry in ashile tribe when she herself refused sher

Talk about that shocked eye she gave him, like this dude is beautiful and to tell the truth sun looks hot in every outfit. In that scene tang clothes which are less attractive marched his beauty . Best dressed character both in tang and grasslands outfit.

Lol, delay tactics like memory loss. Sun is also a clever dude who not only has a good memory but knows timing. The first promise paved the way. To some one like changge I believe even if she was the next khatun if possibly sun became great khan she would change the system of marriage in grasslands. No one could inherit her.

Only a depressed changge couldn't see it, even princess pearl noticed it earlier having even not seen him in grasslands outfit.

Oh, then the drama gave us a juicy side for those promises in drama were a big thing to sun whose love language was acts of service to a stubborn changge. But I also know the manhua had not reached the romantic side if even the author had romance in her mind to include in this complex story. I had also the changge in manhua had gotten a disease which was not easy to heal coughing out blood later alone if she dies.

He would forgive him for he did the same in shou state. The situation can call for that action.

Your right changge 's three negotiations were equal to the three wishes she offered sun but the part of military advisor was different for she earned a salary for that , I mean she still advised him not mentioning the promises. So her promises trapped her somehow since sun used them as a way to hold onto her, but literally if you see that scene surely sun's wishes were personal from his gestures.

This drama did an important role in teaching me about body language and micro expressions and gestures which initially I didn't care about, back to my observation re-watching ep 17 when changge proposed to do three wishes for sun and in return not to harm tang, do ruthless things and free her, when sun accepted and said it's like wishes, in time I decide it, you should realize it for me, if you see his expressions you realize those wishes were never going to be militarily and somehow he knew these promises would keep her around in time she will let go her revenge on him.
I don't know if this wish promise was also in the manhua some one who read it to info us if the changge in the manhua fulfilled any of the wishes.

I wish the writers would know how your tapping into there minds XD. All the analysis here give there best. If only these explanations were in "doubon " if it's right spelling even maybe the cntz would see a different pic.

I feel you, give it a chance and you will not regret..