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Replying to hyubai Apr 8, 2021
So far I'm loving this drama, but I agree with earlier comments on how Ashile Sun started liking her way too fast.…
Young Blood has what you are looking for with Changge, if you need something to fill in the time while wating for updates.
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Replying to GraceLee Apr 8, 2021
Title Rattan
Yan Fu Rui is one of my favorite characters here.... didn't notice he was also in Unrequited Love hmmmm.
he was one of the few bright spots in unrequited love! a natural at comedy relief but really damn good at emotional scenes when it's needed too.
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Replying to emyiwang Apr 8, 2021
i agree with the camera work and editing skills , the close ups sometimes pissed me off i mean if i were them…
YES! Isn't it amazing! there were a lot of visual motifs that you could analyse too, which I don't see too often in dramas.

WKW's role in the new drama is producer, so idk if that means he sort of supervise the directing or they just put up his name for marketing purpose, maybe something in between too.
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Replying to The Long Ballad Apr 7, 2021
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If you are talking about Huace, it's a big big biiiiig company with lot of subsidiaries. It has made plenty of successful and popular dramas before (most of the popular modern romance basically), the currently airing You Are My Hero is also Huace and it's definitely spending all its money worth, the script is fine, the acting is fine, the casting could be bit better but it worked out quite well.

If you are talking about tencent, well that's a platform and they themselves have two subsidiaries that's involved in dramas usually (they compete against each other), but tencent tend to get other production companies to actually make the drama, it's more involved with pre-production and marketing and such, but tencent IS known for dumping massive amount of money into ?????? what even is this? Anyways, they produce massive amount of dramas due to how they operate, there's projects that absolutely waste the suppose budget like LoF, but there's plenty that comes out fantastic on low budget. (My Heroic Husband is supposingly A rank by tencent, Xinli/New Classics Media made it, sold it to iqiyi and got S rank marketing and is the most popular drama this year so far)

You Are My Glory is a tencent drama, idk what other dramas the other production company has made but the drama is short and have a strong novel base and it's modern romance, little room to screw up. I think imperial College will be fine since it's a romcom, Zhao Lusi's new drama Who Rules the World is probably more worrying, because she's a miscast, and the novel is rather dated and difficult to adapt (it's the most mary sue and overpowered novel i've seen to be honest, it's fun but woof that's rough.) Or any of the other tencent big popular historical slated to air.
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Replying to Rakshith Uthappa Apr 7, 2021
Title Rattan
I have only one question... She was born from a plant... Ok.. But from where did her clothes appear from... Lol...
she's more like revived from the plant, naked would make sense, but that wouldn't fly in a drama, so they make do. maybe it's her clothes from before :P
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Replying to Natalie7777 Apr 7, 2021
I kind of came here to see the story of Li Chang Ge's and Ashile Sun, but in the end I realized that I like the…
Oh no, Ni Ni is even older, and yeah it wouldn't work with Wu Lei. Wu Lei was last min replacement which is kind of rough. Definitely wish there's less of mismatch (face looking-wise, it's not even age, Wu Lei having baby face and child actor image definitely didn't help though.)

I saw suggestion of Jiang Yiyi if you keep Wu Lei, not sure who to match with Dilireba but there's plenty of actors that'd be far less jarring.
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Replying to Stokssyyy Apr 7, 2021
Yes. It is extremely low budget. It used a budget of only 30 million. Investors pulled out due to covid.Only wolong…
I know they took pay cuts but it still sound too little to me since that amounts to 50mil? i was thinking 70 or 80mil. oh well *shrug* just found budget interesting since I saw fair amount drama budgets recently and they are all way higher than I thought. I saw 100mil for Marry Me, and the lead actors aren't that much more well known than this drama's.
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Replying to Stokssyyy Apr 7, 2021
Yes. It is extremely low budget. It used a budget of only 30 million. Investors pulled out due to covid.Only wolong…
the other productions have that high budget because they are tencent projects, it likes to dump massive amount of money into projects, and they are all S rank, so that's why they have more money invested, they thought the ip/production have more potential.

BUT I would also like to mention that the budget is a rumour budget (from someone that guesstimate it on bilibili? or they saw the rumour and mentioned, idk). and it's just way too low even for low budget dramas, woolong nuts also added supposingly 20mil, there's no way this could be filmed with 30mil, 50mil is a real stretch too. Financial statements (for companies that are listed on stock market) have budgets for other dramas, the lowest I saw recently was 70mil for 24 ep historical, but there's other that's around 100mil. Young Blood's director (42 ep historical) mentioned theirs was about 90mil (in house mangotv production). Also A rank Youku drama Rattan (30 ep), which is modern fantasy with lot of on location shooting was rumoured to be 90mil. So I'd think it's more likely to be around that amount.

someone on weibo showed how much they reused certain scenes by changing the lighting and filming at certain angle for it to be most cost effective, which is very clever.
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Replying to emyiwang Apr 7, 2021
i agree with the camera work and editing skills , the close ups sometimes pissed me off i mean if i were them…
it just depend on who they hire. I recently watched a drama with spectacular directing and cameraworks, but I don't think it has subs (it's Advisor Alliance's director). Rattan/Goodbye My Princess' director left an impression on me, largely for all the pretty scenery and how gorgeous he end up making the female lead, he has pacing problems though (but that might not be entirely controlled by him, could be scriptwriter or investor issue).

Movie directors also tend to be more into the art, since they have time and money to do so usually (or passion). Some drama productions (directors, scriptwriter, actor) can feel like they are just doing the thing for quick buck, even those that take it seriously can fall into a routine.
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Replying to Winnie_poo Apr 7, 2021
The guy who play mu jin I think I saw him with dillireba too in the love designer and in the storm eye with yang…
pretty much? it's a good way for the less well known actors get exposure. storm eye is a jaywalk co-production though, as are many of the dramas they star in, someone told me this is first outside drama dilireba did? but i'm not familiar with all her dramas.
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On Rattan Apr 6, 2021
Title Rattan
Technically there's 3 places they could have ended this and it's sad ending, open ending and happy ending, i think it worked out pretty well.
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Replying to Winnie_poo Apr 2, 2021
Title Rattan
Wonder why wetv that belong to tencent dont take this drama..if wetv take this drama the sub will not be this…
....because it's a youku drama LOL. I'm guessing Youku might be looking into making international platform instead of selling their dramas to other platfroms due to success of WoH but that's just a guess.
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Replying to RSMasterfade Apr 1, 2021
In case people don't know much about Chinese history. Here's a backgrounderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanwu_Gate_IncidentI…
Oh, and there's no politics involved about before and afterhand either is there, damn. I think it might be cos they want everyone to have positive image of Li Shimin? I mean, it's like the biggest thing he did that could be considered "wrong". But your average Chinese doesn't seem to care honestly, he's the most beloved emperor out of all of them in my experience, surpassing Ying Zheng and Liu Che.
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Replying to RSMasterfade Apr 1, 2021
In case people don't know much about Chinese history. Here's a backgrounderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanwu_Gate_IncidentI…
I'm curious how they handled Xuanwu, do you think they did a decent job? I'm most interested in that part because most Tang dramas kind of skim over the bit. (...I'm surprised they kept Li Shimin's name.....you know...lol)
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Replying to RSMasterfade Apr 1, 2021
Ashina was a prominent Tujue/Göktürk clan name. Shows invloving Tang-Göktürk conflicts won't pass the censors.…
No it wouldn't be, if you look at the person he's based on.
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Replying to Suzy Mar 31, 2021
You can watch on youtube today night
Word of Honor is fully subbed if you subscribe to Youku, there's a discussion page about it.
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Replying to Skibbies Mar 30, 2021
A small note, salary over 100m isn't really possible anymore since they've been cracked down, the height of that…
Historical are generally bit longer, TRP's length is from 2018 when long dramas was still popular, and it's already been cut down (So is Palace of Devotion rip). Anyways, it does say suggest (and they've been suggesting since around late 2018) so it's not a hard rule, the salary thing is a hard rule though.

Unfortunately big names sell dramas, that's why they used them, the ramification for terrible acting for awfully high salary doesn't show up till a year or two or even three years after they invest in a project. The drama market has calmed down, LeTV going backrupt, then tighter hold on historical dramas on primetime, then salary rule + episode limit put quite a damper on the market. Last year already saw effects of it, most of the dramas that made a splash (positive splash) had decent script, and several of them were under 30 ep. The shift away from tv to watching on platform + rise of people watching dramas on tiktok + pandemic put more damper on it, so this year's tv ratings are all absolutely absymal, webdrama statics so far are mostly alright, most dramas that have sort of splash so far have all been partially invested by the streaming platforms.
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Replying to Betweensunandsea Mar 30, 2021
Just read a comment in Weibo and Douban and I would like to share the rumor here that SHL initially was planned…
A small note, salary over 100m isn't really possible anymore since they've been cracked down, the height of that was around 2016/2017 just after internet giants poured into the drama market which resulted in bunch of other well off businesses investing in dramas so it jacked up everyone's prices. There's evidence (annual reports from production companies usually) that second tier or third tier (depending on how you categorise them) actors could get 80m, that's how ridiculous it was.

These days there's specific rules, the newest one say total actor salary can't be more than 40% of budget (thank god, there's still some money left over for the drama itself), and main cast's salary can't be more 70% of the total (idk what count as main cast though). On the same document, it also mentions that it strongly discourage "fillers" in dramas, suggests less than 40 ep for dramas and encourages dramas to be 30 ep or less. (thus all the recent 30ish ep dramas I guess, it's long enough for platforms to air them in a month for vip + on demand, but not too long)
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Replying to fiflydramalover Mar 29, 2021
They both focus on the complicated nature of good and evil. They're also both censored love stories. In that sense…
Happy to share my useless trivia knowledge from strolling cnet too much :P

Both Chinese Paladin dramas I mentioned actually featured Hu Ge hahaha, on cnet, the first one is consider pinnacle of xianxia dramas, despite the fact it was heavily criticised by game fans at the time, I think all the kids that grew up with the drama but not the game got their nostalgia goggle on. It's actually decently adapted though, and fairly well told story despite the love triangle. Chinese Paladin 3 is vastly different from the game and I've been told absolutely inferior so LOL, the love polygons were real annoying but it was kind of neat to see A list actors and actress in one drama, and it fused in enough taoism that I liked it for that.

I wouldn't really trust NU for tagging to be honest, since it's probably tagged by users who are equally confused. I see low fantasy xianxia as xianxia anyways because you can totally tell a story set in xianxia world without it being about powerful people I guess? I think Xuanhuan includes Xianxia so it's not wrong per se. The thing with cultivation novels is...they are all super long, and they are basically level up and fight antagonists, I think one of NU forum's resident fav few years ago I Shall Seal the Heaven is one but WAY TOO LONG OMG.
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