Synchonicity

You're right, BL started out as women writing for women (at least for the ones with that particular fetish). Most gay guys didn't even know about it. I didn't know anything about it until 2018, when I stumbled upon it by accident. I started watching, mainly because there were almost no other depictions of gay couples out there. I wasn't in agreement with many of those depictions, but I was happy that the representation existed at all.

But the dynamic and demographic has changed now. Like me, many gay men have become viewers, I'd say around 40%, at least. Gay men online BL reactors on YouTube outnumber women reactors.

So I'd like to see BL start evolving, as the audience evolves. Doesn't mean that has to cancel out the original concept, but the ideas should at least coexist.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Recently, in My Sweetheart Jom, the fangirlies were going crazy because Saint (27 and a bit bulky) was the bottom and Poom (21, slim and looks like he's in high school) was the top. They just couldn't handle it.

Exactly! I've often said "We both are." And then they just look confused, like we blew their whole trip, lol.

The only thing I can figure is that it's a sort of rape fantasy that some women get into... they don't actually want it for real, so they fetishize and get off on two good looking male characters (the whole "seme/uke" thing, which is also a little ridiculous) where the top bangs away mercilessly at the bottom.

I'm all for fantasies and fetishes, but not when they are put out there as some kind of "gay norm."

Fair enough.

Yes. I am a gay guy, and I did enjoy this series. I gave it an 8. However...

I, too, was bothered by that the gang rape scene in Ep 1 was just brushed off as a "character flaw" in CC. I can take watching a rape scene, as long as it's portrayed as the violent act that it really is.

The part that bothered me even more was WSW barely being able to walk the day after the first time he had sex with CC. I've been through all kinds of sexual acts -- even rough -- and I've never been so sore I could barely walk the next day. A guy (even into BDSM) would seriously have be so brutally raped for hours against his wlll for that to happen.

And many viewers' reactions were "Oh! Look how WSW can barely walk!" As if that was so cute and CC was such a hot sexy stud. A number of women BL writers go this way (MAME, anyone?), and there's nothing cute about it, it's gross. What if it were a woman that had been banged so hard she was limping around in pain the next day? Still cute? Still romantic?

If you want to write THAT story, make it a thriller/drama, not a love story.

I think 8.6 is good! I watched the whole series and really liked it, although I didn't think it was perfect or anything. I rated it 8.0.

Yep. I'm sorry they've sold out the way they have.

I was most worried about Khali when the show started, because he's older, not as pretty as the others, and a bit overweight. I thought he might be ignored. But, as soon as he came out as a "top," that dynamic changed. I'm not going to judge Andrew, I'll wait to see how the series progresses.

Thanks, I'm glad I made you laugh! Yes, you and I are on exactly the same page.

I figured there was no kiss goodbye because they weren't saying goodbye to one another. Exactly the opposite, really.

I was confused about that as well.

It was cute. Sexy kisses between the leads! I liked that -- for once -- the MLs were just average looking guys as opposed to poster boys. The story was sweet but nothing remarkable... it's a 6.0 from me (which, out of 10, I don't consider a bad rating).

Wow, that was a quick finale! Cute, if a little bit hokey. I loved that CC bought back WSW's house, I even got a little teary over it.

Was disappointed that CC's dad was suddenly a good guy, after all he put WSW through. I mean, he kidnapped him and put duct tape over his mouth! And he was content to let CC rot in jail. And I was sorry Yue Yue wasn't punished more for everything, she was just pure evil.

Still, a really enjoyable series. It's an 8.0 from me.

Thank you for the explanation!

Yes, I hope so too!

Unless something drastically changes, I'll probably give this series an 8.0 once it's over. (I never rate a series until after its conclusion.)

I'm not sure. Maybe Julian?

Between 22 and 39.

Not bad, not great. At least it's a step up from the crap Wayufilm has been putting out recently, which seems to focus on young skinny guys with braces showing skin and trying to act seductive. Sad to think this is the same Wayufilm that produced My Bromance and My Friendship. Now the company seems determined to show soft porn and pimp their actors for donations from older men.