what is the real meaning of this s line? i mean, is it only show sexual connection between people?
Yes. But it also shows the virgins.
The plot twist is, if you don't have an S-Line, it doesn't mean you're a virgin since if the other person dies, that connection disappears. (I think they got that from various religious texts, since in many religions, whenever we have sex, we create a connection that is not easily broken, and death is the easiest way.)
Yucks! Are we supposed to imagine that he has already washed his hand and specs clean before putting them on!!!
Hahahaha! That was the thought in my mind too the entire scene. I literally ignored his facial expressions since I already know what he'll see, my mind was simply: dude, seriously?
Of course, she's suspicious; she has something to do with the glasses. I was thinking it was her who sent Hyeon…
Oh, yes, good catch! He was suspiciously very accepting of the idea about the S-Line, not a single shread of disbelief. It's as if he's seen it before. He did not even ask her questions, he just knew "there was no reason to lie".
When she hit him with the stapler, he probably got wounded by it. It didn't show immediately. Then whatever "drugs"…
Agreed. It is raising important personal, psychological, and social questions.
- How much is too much? (Too many S-Lines) - Should people look down on those who are open to casual sex? - In the same way, should people laugh at virgins? - Should we let underage engage in sex? Or, continue pretending they're not engaging in it (and then blame the kids later when they get pregnant)? - How about those doing the deed with comatosed patients, and the dead, are we sure we've elimated the underground market for such acts? - How about rape? Especially raping a man as was depicted in E03 and E04? Are we still going to ignore that men are also being raped, and they can't say anything because society will twist it? Don't they have rights too? - How do we deal with those who have an uncontrollable need and addiction to sex to the point they're self-hallucinating, like in E03 & E04? - How should we deal when we discover someone is probably cheating? - But what if we got things wrong and the real mistress is the one we're trying to protect?
There are so many questions this show is making us ask, but sadly, either missed or is not reaching as many people as possible.
We evolve as a society, culture, and human beings, if we face these questions instad of being afraid to confront it.
Why did they change the title from the Korean "84 m²" to the English "Wall to Wall"?
In many Pacific-Asian countries (not "Asia-Pacific" which includes Oceania), there is what is called "studio-type" apartments. The common size is 13–18 m² (square meters). The largest studio-type is 50 m².
So, the actual title of 84 m² is really a spacious condominium apartment unit. That's not small at all.
Since it's supposed to be a thriller and a suspense, I think they changed the English title to make it appear "smaller". "Wall to wall" induces the mental image of a small room but 84 m² doesn't.
No. The Korean title English translation is 84 m² which is actually big.
In many Pacific-Asian countries (not "Asia-Pacific" which includes Oceania), there is what is called "studio-type" apartments. The common size is 13–18 m² (square meters). The largest studio-type is 50 m².
So, the actual title of 84 m² is actually a huge condominium apartment. That's not small at all.
Since it's supposed to be a thriller and a suspense, I think they changed the English title to make it appear "smaller". "Wall to wall" induces the mental image of a small room but 84 m² doesn't.
incompetent cops is a running theme in these kdramas/movies
Actually, it's common here in Pacific-Asia (not "Asia-Pacific" which includes Oceania). 😅 Even here in the Philippines, cops are portrayed as incompetent, corrupt, used by those in power and/or with money. 😂
The only difference, the Philippines, sometime 2010 to 2015, mandated to stop the negative portrayal of the police force as such, or they'll be sued. 🤣🤣🤣 So, you'll rarely see it these days—though still portrayed as such here and there, and then a short redemption sub-arc to balance it out.
For some reason, Korea's showbiz has far too much freedom. Foreigners would think Korea's police force are indeed incompetent. Unless they really are?
They made the real Sun Chaek like her new life just for the sake of it. She says the new world is so freeing when…
To understand her character, you have to see through her lens.
She was living in an era where women had to follow a strict social norms on how to live as a woman. She is a woman who wants to explore the world and chaining her won't work. Her only choices were to either suck it up or commit suicide.
Luckily for her, there was a magical choice, switch bodies.
The real world set in 2024/2025 may not be perfect, but from her own shoes, it is far more than she could ask for.
1. She has far more freedom and liberty as a woman. 2. She can study whatever she wants. 3. She can go wherever she wants. 4. There are no social norms that weighs down a person the way it did back in her era.
And many more.
As a free-spirited person, she is more than willing to live alone in a new world where she can be herself, than to live with her loving and progressive family in an era where she _must_ conform to social expectations.
It's an easy choice for her.
---
The question how is, is the FL (the new Sun Chaek) into less freedom and liberty for women?
Not at all.
She actually brought the world she grew up with, with her. She stood up for women. She stood up against bullies.
Loke the original Sun Chaek, you have to see things through her lens.
For the new Sun Chaek (FL), she had a life that was going nowhere. She was longing for a much closer familial relationship. She wants a new life.
She found all of it as Sun Chaek. Very close loving family. A best friend. A loving husband. She didn't need to work too.
---
Even in real life, we joke about "can yoy adopt me" a lot. But in reality, we all have hidden desires to have a certain type of life.
For example, it is very easy for me to choose between my family today versus living in the Renaissance Europe or the year 4780 A.D. where we can travel through the stars. Or, if a wealthy family is looking for a person to adopt with certain conditions, and shose conditions match with the life I want and the principles I live by, I'll take it immediately, even fight for it.
The OG Sun Chaek and the new Sun Chaek are those type of people. They were both born in the wrong era. They're willing to sacrifice everything to live in the era where they fit best, and they found it.
When she hit him with the stapler, he probably got wounded by it. It didn't show immediately. Then whatever "drugs"…
Yep! I'm actually surprsied it is not getting loud reactions. 😅 Usually these type of dark stories that touches on social sensitivities get the attention of so many groups.
You know, I DaHui is suspicious. A character played by a high-paid actor without any important role other than as a homeroom teacher? Suspicious. And wherever the glasses showed up, it's either in lockers of her own students or the faculty room.
He will notice now that he has the most s-lines than anyone in the world 🤣 And I don't get the last story with…
The short-haired teacher was obsessed with the other teacher. She wants to sleep with him but she's not brave enough to make a move.
Until one day, Room 205 was that teacher and to make things worse, the teacher's single sex buddy is a TV personality, possibly an actress.
So, when she heard them schedule their next f*ck session, she devised a plan to finally fulfill her sexual fantasies with him, while acting at the same, which is also her dream (to be an actor). Two birds, one stone … quite literally.
I mean I thought he was dead and she's still doing it I was like what the hell
He was dead.
Yes, there are people like that in real life. If it's proven they didn't have a mental or psychological disorder, they go to prison because in most societies, it is against the law to have sex with a dead body. Most go to institutions though, at least the recorded cases.
There were (hopefully past tense) even an underground market for such vile acts of having sex with a dead body. I'm assuming it started when having sex with comatosed patients became rape under various laws, and the market was abolished. People crazy for sex, and people desperate for money, find ways to fulfill both needs.
Episode 4 really dialed up the mature content. Where did the blood come from and why did she ride him to an O?People…
When she hit him with the stapler, he probably got wounded by it. It didn't show immediately. Then whatever "drugs" she used to knock him out probably had bad interaction, like preventing his blood from clotting so he started do bleed like water from a small wound.
Or, when he fell, he got wounded but it didn't show up immediately.
Nurses and doctors can think of better possible theories than what I came up with.
The plot twist is, if you don't have an S-Line, it doesn't mean you're a virgin since if the other person dies, that connection disappears. (I think they got that from various religious texts, since in many religions, whenever we have sex, we create a connection that is not easily broken, and death is the easiest way.)
There's some connection to that single line. Hmm… their classmate who seems to believe the FL when she told him about the S-Lines?
- How much is too much? (Too many S-Lines)
- Should people look down on those who are open to casual sex?
- In the same way, should people laugh at virgins?
- Should we let underage engage in sex? Or, continue pretending they're not engaging in it (and then blame the kids later when they get pregnant)?
- How about those doing the deed with comatosed patients, and the dead, are we sure we've elimated the underground market for such acts?
- How about rape? Especially raping a man as was depicted in E03 and E04? Are we still going to ignore that men are also being raped, and they can't say anything because society will twist it? Don't they have rights too?
- How do we deal with those who have an uncontrollable need and addiction to sex to the point they're self-hallucinating, like in E03 & E04?
- How should we deal when we discover someone is probably cheating?
- But what if we got things wrong and the real mistress is the one we're trying to protect?
There are so many questions this show is making us ask, but sadly, either missed or is not reaching as many people as possible.
We evolve as a society, culture, and human beings, if we face these questions instad of being afraid to confront it.
In many Pacific-Asian countries (not "Asia-Pacific" which includes Oceania), there is what is called "studio-type" apartments. The common size is 13–18 m² (square meters). The largest studio-type is 50 m².
So, the actual title of 84 m² is really a spacious condominium apartment unit. That's not small at all.
Since it's supposed to be a thriller and a suspense, I think they changed the English title to make it appear "smaller". "Wall to wall" induces the mental image of a small room but 84 m² doesn't.
In many Pacific-Asian countries (not "Asia-Pacific" which includes Oceania), there is what is called "studio-type" apartments. The common size is 13–18 m² (square meters). The largest studio-type is 50 m².
So, the actual title of 84 m² is actually a huge condominium apartment. That's not small at all.
Since it's supposed to be a thriller and a suspense, I think they changed the English title to make it appear "smaller". "Wall to wall" induces the mental image of a small room but 84 m² doesn't.
The only difference, the Philippines, sometime 2010 to 2015, mandated to stop the negative portrayal of the police force as such, or they'll be sued. 🤣🤣🤣 So, you'll rarely see it these days—though still portrayed as such here and there, and then a short redemption sub-arc to balance it out.
For some reason, Korea's showbiz has far too much freedom. Foreigners would think Korea's police force are indeed incompetent. Unless they really are?
She was living in an era where women had to follow a strict social norms on how to live as a woman. She is a woman who wants to explore the world and chaining her won't work. Her only choices were to either suck it up or commit suicide.
Luckily for her, there was a magical choice, switch bodies.
The real world set in 2024/2025 may not be perfect, but from her own shoes, it is far more than she could ask for.
1. She has far more freedom and liberty as a woman.
2. She can study whatever she wants.
3. She can go wherever she wants.
4. There are no social norms that weighs down a person the way it did back in her era.
And many more.
As a free-spirited person, she is more than willing to live alone in a new world where she can be herself, than to live with her loving and progressive family in an era where she _must_ conform to social expectations.
It's an easy choice for her.
---
The question how is, is the FL (the new Sun Chaek) into less freedom and liberty for women?
Not at all.
She actually brought the world she grew up with, with her. She stood up for women. She stood up against bullies.
Loke the original Sun Chaek, you have to see things through her lens.
For the new Sun Chaek (FL), she had a life that was going nowhere. She was longing for a much closer familial relationship. She wants a new life.
She found all of it as Sun Chaek. Very close loving family. A best friend. A loving husband. She didn't need to work too.
---
Even in real life, we joke about "can yoy adopt me" a lot. But in reality, we all have hidden desires to have a certain type of life.
For example, it is very easy for me to choose between my family today versus living in the Renaissance Europe or the year 4780 A.D. where we can travel through the stars. Or, if a wealthy family is looking for a person to adopt with certain conditions, and shose conditions match with the life I want and the principles I live by, I'll take it immediately, even fight for it.
The OG Sun Chaek and the new Sun Chaek are those type of people. They were both born in the wrong era. They're willing to sacrifice everything to live in the era where they fit best, and they found it.
🖖🏽
I'm thinking, they were afraid they'll get bad reactions from certain groups. 😅
Until one day, Room 205 was that teacher and to make things worse, the teacher's single sex buddy is a TV personality, possibly an actress.
So, when she heard them schedule their next f*ck session, she devised a plan to finally fulfill her sexual fantasies with him, while acting at the same, which is also her dream (to be an actor). Two birds, one stone … quite literally.
Yes, there are people like that in real life. If it's proven they didn't have a mental or psychological disorder, they go to prison because in most societies, it is against the law to have sex with a dead body. Most go to institutions though, at least the recorded cases.
There were (hopefully past tense) even an underground market for such vile acts of having sex with a dead body. I'm assuming it started when having sex with comatosed patients became rape under various laws, and the market was abolished. People crazy for sex, and people desperate for money, find ways to fulfill both needs.
Yeah, hopefully it all stopped by now.
Or, when he fell, he got wounded but it didn't show up immediately.
Nurses and doctors can think of better possible theories than what I came up with.