I am very sad about the rating. Went down again. LBFAD could stay so long but not this one. Even though rating…
Let people have their own judgement. The future is long ahead. If you believe in the value of this show, it will pass the test of time in the long run.
"Waiting for his coming back to be a lovely family together."SEEE ITS A HAPPY OPEN ENDING.Where did you all found…
It takes time to relearn about the ending and grasp insights from others. Those who at first feel disappointed have chance to consider alternative perspectives.
I’m on episode 26 and have lost interest in this drama. It’s been over 2 weeks and I don’t have the desire…
Skip the rest episodes (because it is indeed toxic). Episode 30-36 have good romance, I hope you can watch it. If you may continue to the last episode, you will get some closure for all mystery surrounding Ancient Demon God. It is very interesting to watch the green eyed demon has some screen time.
Any love triangles? Also what's his power level compared to other xianxia characters? Is he stronger than Dongfang…
1. No love triangle. 2. He is the strongest IMO, as Demon God. He can threaten and annihilate all realms. 3. The role of Demon God here is parallel to Tai Sui (the Evil God) in LBFD. But Tai Sui is stupid and only works by manipulation and use other' hands to revive. No real power. He was just a smoke.
DFQC was only portrayed as evil in the back story. In all episodes, we never see him killing anyone or doing evil like a devil. Instead, he is the one who got punished by his society for loving Lanhua. If he was TTJ, he would have destroyed those people who refused his will.
The fight is rare, and DFQC fight against god of war was not really a combat, just a magic show. No weapon. No casualties. Just a threat to immortals. He just left them behind after the victory. It is because he got his weakness so early in the drama.
In TTEOM, we can see varieties of real combat with weapons as well as magic. The story is not afraid of showing some degree of cruelty. If DFQC was TTJ, he would have killed the god of war without thinking. He would not be afraid of death even under a spell, and would have intimidated Lanhua instead.
Till the last episode, I still hope there is a way out for TTJ to not sacrifice himself. But, there is a problem inherent to the story premise, which makes his survival might turn illogical.
The enemy in this drama is internal (bounded to himself), not external. The enemy is in his own body. Thus, TTJ must fight against/ defeat himself. Because the Demon God is the most supreme in the realm (no being is above him, almost no weakness), it must take extreme measure to defeat him. The solution for this type of problem is absolutely and only self-sacrifice. This type of enemy and problem solving appeared in LBFD (when DFQC was possessed by Tai Sui, he was killed too).
It will be different if the enemy is external, like Qing Cang from TMOPB or Miao Luo from Eternal Love of Dream. Here we can have two alternative solutions: self-sacrifice OR just get (even just a little bit) stronger than the enemy, whether by collaboration with your lover and friends or by using more lethal weapon or by miracle or Deus Ex Machina (like fox blood in Eternal Love of Dream). Your life could still be threatened, but you won't die.
Maybe, if the Devil Bone is not in TTJ's heart (the most important organ), he would still has a chance to survive (see? the author could put it in his eyes, brain, or foot, so just cut his foot, dig out his eyes, or remove part of his brain). He might be in the brink of death for a while, but death could be evaded maybe by the help of LSS's super power.
So, it is just acceptable that he must die that way.
It is just my conclusion, with lesson: if you don't want your main character to die, just don't create too powerful, too intelligent, and too heartless enemy/ antagonist.
Stop acting like drama TTJ is most the innocent character there ever to exist. Yes, the drama did tone down his…
I don't think so. This drama is an adaptation. Drama and novel are completely different medium of storytelling. Each has different ups and downs. A novel can be extensive, but it requires readers active and rich imagination. A drama materialize the story, but it cannot run forever and is regulated more strictly.
Drama maker has the right to choose what to include and exclude from the novel. It is the risk. More or less, a drama definitely has reduced content. But, what is reduced, it is on the hand of producers/ directors/ script writers. We audience are in more passive position.
So, it is wiser to treat drama and novel as complementary materials. There is no need to compare, contrast, and conflict them, because both serve us. For what you cannot see in the drama, you still can find it in the novel. For what you are hard to imagine from the novel, you can enjoy the live adaptation.
He has confessed his love for her directly three times! But she, I can't really figure out what kind of emotion…
I see that too. Guilt is part of her psychology because she did something bad to TTJ. But later she apologized. In episode 35, she kissed TTJ chest in his heart.
Love in this drama is pretty complex because it takes the bigger definition of it. Love in YXW perspective, we…
TTJ has different route of love in comparison to YXW/ LSS. TTJ route at least can be divided into: zero love, curiosity & first experience, obsession/ selfishness, loyalty, faithfulness & romance, and selflessness/ universal love.
In early episodes, he departed his journey from zero. All emotion is zero, including love. All of his action is based of survival instinc. He didn't understand why YXW cared for him.
He began to wonder about what love is around episode 8-10 when he was hunted by TTML and YXW came back to save him despite the danger. YXW action was in contrary to his survival instinc. YXW is expected to leave him and save her own self, so it is shocking that she stayed (whatever the reason and puspose). YXW is the person who tought him the definition of love and he used it as foundation.
It results in his obsession, why he refused YXW death, around episode 20+, and he was willing to follow YXW to die. Because of his obsession, all thing ends badly.
Scenes in Nether Realm are telling about his loyalty despite of adversity and suffering to see YXW again.
It is fruitful because later he was saved by the head of immortal sect. Here, he learnt more about human relationship. He has a master and new friends. He became a part of this group. He still love YXW but he also get the big picture, his real enemy, the greater conflict to come that threat not only YXW, but also all people in all realm. Here comes the seed of universal love (compassion, humanity).
When he saw LSS/ YXW again, he expressed his faithfulness. LSS trusted him, and their real romance finally bloomed. It peaks at episode 35.
However, the final conflict must be solved. His self-sacrifice and pretending to be evil ended the romance, but he developed a greater form of love (humanity). In return, he got LSS companionship and a good remembrance (it is not well portrayed, but it is there). Even though he ceased to exist, he isn't gone. He is still loved.
He has confessed his love for her directly three times! But she, I can't really figure out what kind of emotion…
I think it is because, logically, love should take time to evolve. This story is about enemy to lover. REAL enemy to lover. It is impossible to instantly have romantic feeling when YXW still regards him as enemy.
At what point does li susu fall in love with Tantai Jin? Was trying to figure out at what point because she wants…
Love in this drama is pretty complex because it takes the bigger definition of it. Love in YXW perspective, we can break it down at least to: care, compassion, romantic feeling, commitment, and companionship.
Care comes pretty fast in episode 1 or 2 when YXW cannot resist to not ignore TTJ in frozen lake scene. At their first meeting, she just went to her room and slept. But, knowing TTJ was still kneeling and later got sick, it drives her attention and worry of his well-being. The following episodes has this theme.
Compassion comes in episodes revealing TTJ's sad past. The story of his birth, his father and mother, his life with two nannies, and his experience as hostage prince. It drives her to set new purpose: to fix TTJ. Her efforts to fix TTJ are shown in overall mortal arc (ends badly around episode 20+, with her death as the climax).
Romantic feeling comes much later in immortal arc when finally she met TTJ/CJM. It was triggered by TTJ faithfulness in his love to her. It is depicted in scene where she realized that she couldn't master Heartless Way. The romance is suppressed at first, bloomed when they decided to marry, and seemingly almost ends when TTJ chose to become Demon God.
Commitment comes in the scene where she broke to Demon Palace. There is not problem of trust anymore here. So she came to understand TTJ's decision. They resumed their marriage even though she resented him again.
Companionship comes in the end, in last episode. She mastered Heartless Way, all clouds surrounding their circumstances cleared, she understood TTJ' heart. In the end, they are physically separated because of TTJ demise. But, she kept TTJ memory and had a daughter with him. The last scene is her waiting of him to come back in Mohe River.
PS: People are disappointed because they only expect for romantic love in all episodes. For me, it has more nuances and each kind of love is portrayed in certain episodes. If you want to see care, go to early episodes. You want to see compassion, enjoy the mortal arc. You want to see romance, go to immortal arc. You want to understand deeper form of love, watch till the end.
Stop acting like drama TTJ is most the innocent character there ever to exist. Yes, the drama did tone down his…
You should watch till the end. The story is divided into mainly two acrs, the mortal and immortal arc. Each has different purpose in TTJ character development.
What you loathed is TTJ in mortal acr. He is really pitiful but detestable. He goes from negative situation to zero and to a slightly positive, from a person who doesn't understand emotion, can't feel emotion, to a person who starts to feel and experience power, love, hate, and heart breaks intensely. Admittedly, he did many awful and inhumane things here. The results of the mortal arc are he finally humanized and realization of his true identity as devil fetus.
The second arc started from nether river and finally in immortal realm. In this acr, everything becomes less cruel and less dark. There conflicts rotated around TTJ/ CJM new and conflicting identities as a disciple of immortal sect and in the same time, a demon fetus. His character developed from slighly positive to more positive, from egoistic and self-centered love (showed in his initial obsession to YXW/ LSS) to universal love (showed when he started to care about others beside the woman he loved, e.g. his teacher, fellow disciples, people in the realm, his tribe). The final and cosmic conflict regarding good vs evil, love to others vs power, god vs demon, get a closure in the end. The result of this arc is CJM's transcendence. He didn't choose power, but use the power to love others. His self-sacrifice in the end is the manifestation of love. This is the peak of his character development.
Unfortunately, the second arc is not well presented due to episode restriction. That is external factor beyond our control. The story itself is outstanding. Even though there are things lacking here and there, the overall story is solid. We can use the novel to fill the gap. The novel is complementary and supporting material for us to understand the drama fully.
More like he surrendered to his fate, he didn't choose but he accepted it.That's what pains me and made me so…
Accepting fate is a virtue, to flow with nature is the heart of Dao. Maybe, we are difficult to understand this because we are culturally not Chinese. Please enlightn me.
The big missing scene for me is the one where they kill off Bitchang, closing the last remaining loose end. I…
She did a good deed in the end. Why do we still want to kill her? For TTJ, we want him to alive. For YBC we want her death. It is like we are in the same league of those immortals.
I try to move on for now before I want to rewatch, but I can’t. I feel like someone I know dearly in real life…
About Leo's emotionless in portraying Ancient Demon God reminds me about Tai Sui, the demon god in LBFD. His calmness in facing death is so contrast to panicking Tai Sui when he was almost defeated. Now I understand the supposed difference between a human and a god in a story. In many xianxia, gods and goddesses act like mere human. It is mindblowing.
2 
I love our discussion here.
2. He is the strongest IMO, as Demon God. He can threaten and annihilate all realms.
3. The role of Demon God here is parallel to Tai Sui (the Evil God) in LBFD. But Tai Sui is stupid and only works by manipulation and use other' hands to revive. No real power. He was just a smoke.
DFQC was only portrayed as evil in the back story. In all episodes, we never see him killing anyone or doing evil like a devil. Instead, he is the one who got punished by his society for loving Lanhua. If he was TTJ, he would have destroyed those people who refused his will.
The fight is rare, and DFQC fight against god of war was not really a combat, just a magic show. No weapon. No casualties. Just a threat to immortals. He just left them behind after the victory. It is because he got his weakness so early in the drama.
In TTEOM, we can see varieties of real combat with weapons as well as magic. The story is not afraid of showing some degree of cruelty. If DFQC was TTJ, he would have killed the god of war without thinking. He would not be afraid of death even under a spell, and would have intimidated Lanhua instead.
So, TTJ/ Demon God is stronger.
The enemy in this drama is internal (bounded to himself), not external. The enemy is in his own body. Thus, TTJ must fight against/ defeat himself. Because the Demon God is the most supreme in the realm (no being is above him, almost no weakness), it must take extreme measure to defeat him. The solution for this type of problem is absolutely and only self-sacrifice. This type of enemy and problem solving appeared in LBFD (when DFQC was possessed by Tai Sui, he was killed too).
It will be different if the enemy is external, like Qing Cang from TMOPB or Miao Luo from Eternal Love of Dream. Here we can have two alternative solutions: self-sacrifice OR just get (even just a little bit) stronger than the enemy, whether by collaboration with your lover and friends or by using more lethal weapon or by miracle or Deus Ex Machina (like fox blood in Eternal Love of Dream). Your life could still be threatened, but you won't die.
Maybe, if the Devil Bone is not in TTJ's heart (the most important organ), he would still has a chance to survive (see? the author could put it in his eyes, brain, or foot, so just cut his foot, dig out his eyes, or remove part of his brain). He might be in the brink of death for a while, but death could be evaded maybe by the help of LSS's super power.
So, it is just acceptable that he must die that way.
It is just my conclusion, with lesson: if you don't want your main character to die, just don't create too powerful, too intelligent, and too heartless enemy/ antagonist.
Drama maker has the right to choose what to include and exclude from the novel. It is the risk. More or less, a drama definitely has reduced content. But, what is reduced, it is on the hand of producers/ directors/ script writers. We audience are in more passive position.
So, it is wiser to treat drama and novel as complementary materials. There is no need to compare, contrast, and conflict them, because both serve us. For what you cannot see in the drama, you still can find it in the novel. For what you are hard to imagine from the novel, you can enjoy the live adaptation.
Be flexible and you may enjoy more.
In early episodes, he departed his journey from zero. All emotion is zero, including love. All of his action is based of survival instinc. He didn't understand why YXW cared for him.
He began to wonder about what love is around episode 8-10 when he was hunted by TTML and YXW came back to save him despite the danger. YXW action was in contrary to his survival instinc. YXW is expected to leave him and save her own self, so it is shocking that she stayed (whatever the reason and puspose). YXW is the person who tought him the definition of love and he used it as foundation.
It results in his obsession, why he refused YXW death, around episode 20+, and he was willing to follow YXW to die. Because of his obsession, all thing ends badly.
Scenes in Nether Realm are telling about his loyalty despite of adversity and suffering to see YXW again.
It is fruitful because later he was saved by the head of immortal sect. Here, he learnt more about human relationship. He has a master and new friends. He became a part of this group. He still love YXW but he also get the big picture, his real enemy, the greater conflict to come that threat not only YXW, but also all people in all realm. Here comes the seed of universal love (compassion, humanity).
When he saw LSS/ YXW again, he expressed his faithfulness. LSS trusted him, and their real romance finally bloomed. It peaks at episode 35.
However, the final conflict must be solved. His self-sacrifice and pretending to be evil ended the romance, but he developed a greater form of love (humanity). In return, he got LSS companionship and a good remembrance (it is not well portrayed, but it is there). Even though he ceased to exist, he isn't gone. He is still loved.
Care comes pretty fast in episode 1 or 2 when YXW cannot resist to not ignore TTJ in frozen lake scene. At their first meeting, she just went to her room and slept. But, knowing TTJ was still kneeling and later got sick, it drives her attention and worry of his well-being. The following episodes has this theme.
Compassion comes in episodes revealing TTJ's sad past. The story of his birth, his father and mother, his life with two nannies, and his experience as hostage prince. It drives her to set new purpose: to fix TTJ. Her efforts to fix TTJ are shown in overall mortal arc (ends badly around episode 20+, with her death as the climax).
Romantic feeling comes much later in immortal arc when finally she met TTJ/CJM. It was triggered by TTJ faithfulness in his love to her. It is depicted in scene where she realized that she couldn't master Heartless Way. The romance is suppressed at first, bloomed when they decided to marry, and seemingly almost ends when TTJ chose to become Demon God.
Commitment comes in the scene where she broke to Demon Palace. There is not problem of trust anymore here. So she came to understand TTJ's decision. They resumed their marriage even though she resented him again.
Companionship comes in the end, in last episode. She mastered Heartless Way, all clouds surrounding their circumstances cleared, she understood TTJ' heart. In the end, they are physically separated because of TTJ demise. But, she kept TTJ memory and had a daughter with him. The last scene is her waiting of him to come back in Mohe River.
PS: People are disappointed because they only expect for romantic love in all episodes. For me, it has more nuances and each kind of love is portrayed in certain episodes. If you want to see care, go to early episodes. You want to see compassion, enjoy the mortal arc. You want to see romance, go to immortal arc. You want to understand deeper form of love, watch till the end.
What you loathed is TTJ in mortal acr. He is really pitiful but detestable. He goes from negative situation to zero and to a slightly positive, from a person who doesn't understand emotion, can't feel emotion, to a person who starts to feel and experience power, love, hate, and heart breaks intensely. Admittedly, he did many awful and inhumane things here. The results of the mortal arc are he finally humanized and realization of his true identity as devil fetus.
The second arc started from nether river and finally in immortal realm. In this acr, everything becomes less cruel and less dark. There conflicts rotated around TTJ/ CJM new and conflicting identities as a disciple of immortal sect and in the same time, a demon fetus. His character developed from slighly positive to more positive, from egoistic and self-centered love (showed in his initial obsession to YXW/ LSS) to universal love (showed when he started to care about others beside the woman he loved, e.g. his teacher, fellow disciples, people in the realm, his tribe). The final and cosmic conflict regarding good vs evil, love to others vs power, god vs demon, get a closure in the end. The result of this arc is CJM's transcendence. He didn't choose power, but use the power to love others. His self-sacrifice in the end is the manifestation of love. This is the peak of his character development.
Unfortunately, the second arc is not well presented due to episode restriction. That is external factor beyond our control. The story itself is outstanding. Even though there are things lacking here and there, the overall story is solid. We can use the novel to fill the gap. The novel is complementary and supporting material for us to understand the drama fully.