Niina no Papa

Everything she said at the proposal, she needs to turn around and take a long look at herself and realize everything she said most definitely wasn't true of her... Yeah, I'm not liking Ae Ra overly much right now in ep12, she's just being outright mean and cruel to him now. She has so much growing up to do still...

The proposal meeting, she should be talking to herself saying we endure the rest of our difficult lives, because it's plain she didn't endure nor did she have the desire to endure by divorcing him. She's still very much playing the blame game and blaming him for the divorce, it was HER choice to divorce him, instead of pointing the finger at him, she should be looking at her 3 fingers pointing right back at her. Come on AR, wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe I'm just really bitter over my divorce, but seriously, he did nothing wrong as far as the divorce was concerned, and I don't give a royal hoot what the women here have to say about this, he quit his job without telling her, that's MOST CERTAINLY not grounds for divorce. There is only one ground for divorce, well two, adultery and same sex marriages, and even then, adultery can be forgiven if chosen, but their divorce was so uncalled for, and when she wakes up and smells the coffee and realizes that, the better... Wow, she so has me riled up something else, wow....

She still needs a lot of changing to do, she's still not thinking proper, it's like Ae Ra, you're the one who divorced him, so stop your whining already... She so has some growing up to do, saying divorces are a dime a dozen, and to say I've come this far just fine without you, what kind of attitude is that? No, she hasn't fully regretted divorcing him and for what she's done to him yet, she has quite a ways to go. Divorce isn't a little thing, it tears people apart, divorce is so selfish, and the sooner people realize that, the better this world would be. Marriage is teamwork, it only stops being teamwork when one party decides to no longer be part of the team and divorces. So sad...

I'm gonna so enjoy watching the siblings crash and burn, I think I'll be whooping for joy when that happens... Him more so than his sister... They're both evil, despicable and shallow!!!

I agree with you, they are taking it just waaaay to long to get things properly going, I already want to see them together and working on their issues together, or at least working together to get back together again and working their issues out so they have a much better relationship than they ever had before... :)))

He HAS recognized and IS recognizing that he should have discussed it with her first, but with her, and her mother, especially her mother being the way she's been, it's awfully hard to recognize with their bitter attitude. Thankfully Ae Ra has realized her attitude and is regretting it all and is changing. How on earth can you say he didn't pay attention to her? He paid full attention to her up to the point of her kicking him out, then later divorcing her. She wouldn't let him near her to know anything or to pay attention to her, including her miscarriage. He knew full well what was happening while they were still together. She kept that debt from him, she kept many things from him, and I'm not being offensive when I say this at this point, but women really know how to hide things from us men, and so you can't blame us men by saying we need to be more attentive when you're purposely hiding it from us, and that's just what she did, she hid it from him. He's working hard, and she knows that, so go do what she did, no, you can't say that about him, none whatsoever... He had no way of noticing anything other than her sarcasm towards him, making him starve, kicking him out, then finally, divorcing him. It has nothing to do with maturity or anything else on HIS part. It all boils down to communication and neither had it. That and she loved him with strings attached, there's no getting around that...

And that's what I've been saying all along but there are some here that just hate men so much it seems that he was a shitty husband, a little child, self-centred, self absorbed, etc, and it's all poor Ae Ra, both were to blame, but the largest was on her because marriage isn't supposed to be like that, it is sacred, it is for richer for poorer, sickness and in health, till death do you part. Now Ae Ra is just starting to change to feel that way too now. I so loved the rooftop scene in ep6 and even moreso in ep11. I so didn't like the ending of ep11 though, even though SH doesn't have a chance in crap, she's still sending him mixed signals by hugging him back like that, she should have immediately pulled away, better yet, she shouldn't even have given him that chance. For her it's a friend hug, not a I like you hug, whereas he see's it differently, it's only going to make him worse, he's so wrong in what he's doing, talk about self-centred, selfish, that's not love, that's I want you and I'm gonna have you type of attitude, and I loath that kind of attitude...

I so agree, communication should be #1 in any relationship, and making decisions together, I never once said he wasn't in the wrong for quitting without discussing things first, but that doesn't give her grounds for divorce, just because he quit his job without telling her first. He didn't know she was suffering, if you properly watched ep11, you would have seen that, you're just making feelings judgement calls instead of properly watching the drama. And once again, it wasn't self achievement, he quit his job and was doing what he was doing so that he could fulfull her dream so much faster. So many of you have such a wrong idea about him. Why do you think he was so hurt when she divorced him? It's because EVERYTHING he DID, was for HER, not for him or anyone else, he just went about it the wrong way is all, and I'm sure most people here would agree with that, but a few chosen few of you...

When a parent does that in the way Ae Ra's mother did, it leaves no room for real, true, unconditional love. When you get married, it shouldn't be love with strings attached. If there are strings attached to love, then you have no business getting married to begin with. Her mother instilled into her head to marry with strings attached, on account of her husband and son, and that is where she was wrong, and she even admits that, and that's where Ae Ra was so wrong too, I'm so glad she's seeing that and is now so regretting that. You are so right, and I'm in so much agreement with you with what you lastly said, she should have educated Ae Ra in what you said, take care of herself and hubby if the need arises. In the end, like I've said so many, SO MANY times, money, appearance, comfort is not going to mean a thing to her anymore, she's going to love him for HIM, and nothing else, and the love she'll have will support him no matter if he loses everything or stays filthy rich...

Tsk tsk..

@choupine, if you have read any of my comments from beginning to now, you will see why I feel you're wrong, I've been through hell and back with women myself and so therefore I have majorly huge trust issues with women, but everything I have said in any of my comments have a bearing with how I view women or relationships, I'm not basing my opinions on my feelings but on what I've seen and with watching this show 6 times up to ep 8, I've got a very clear picture of what's happened and what's going on, and like I said before, you are, you're so wrong on all 4 accounts. But I only had to watch each ep once to know that you're so wrong. So many people are placing opinions on how they want things to happen, reality is that that's not how it happens.

So he was lazy, sat on his royal butt and did nothing like her father and brother deadbeats. You really have a lot of growing up to do to say that kind of thing too. WOW!!! :)))

Yeah, I think you're wrong on all accounts, 100% of the way. That's all I'm going to say... :)))

The only time I really don't mind a love triangle is when the 2nd person has no chance whatsoever, they're love is unrequited, and it stays that way... :)))

Exactly, that's why he's more despicable than his sister, at least she admitted defeat and said how unfair it was, him, he just doesn't care, hence more despicable and shallow than his sister...

I don't like the brother as much as the sister, he so doesn't respect their friendship, none whatsoever, but neither stands a chance, neither...

@Saksh, the mother's the most at fault for their marriage break down because she's the one that instilled into Ae Ra's head to marry for comfort, to marry for money, she even mentioned it again and said how wrong she was for it in ep 11 here...

He didn't know about the loans because she didn't want him knowing about it, it didn't have anything to do with taking any amount of time to think or know about the things she was burdened with, the short and long of it is that she didn't want him to know, otherwise, he would have TRIED to do something about it...

I said the mother was the real main villain here, I guess I was right expecially when she admits that she is wrong when she said she was at fault for giving her her attitude. I guess I was right when I said he knew nothing about the loans or debts. What else will I be right about, I so can't wait to find out... :)))

@Saksh, when you say they have amazing chemistry, in ep11, where he's helping her with her proposal, she asks if he wants a coffee, he says yeah, and they both go to the rooftop, I had tears in my eyes, they're so good for each other and good to each other, now all's they need to do, and they've started, is let go of their gripes and pettiness... :))) The 2nd leads don't stand a chance...