enigmatic_zephy

what is proxy murder?

I am positive the scandal involves children, so more than 1 family got destroyed..

people have to collaborate for these murders to take place. Last murder, if we assume ML is the main mastermind then who was in the field with the gun? Another person.

FL keeps saying that killer knows her very well. Who, besides her doctor, knows her really well?

think it is a few people collaborating

Female Doctor who knows FL really really well.. probably is sister of some victim

ML must be involved somehow as well...

But definitely not 1 person show, there are accomplices

Do you remember the scene where ML ran to meet this lady at the restaurant, who came back to Korea after 10 years?

1. Killer wants to oust the dirty scandal, but other than FL no one took the hint
2. Killer may not know who all 9 people are... and gets some clue with each murder to progress to next... or maybe he already knew what the role of some of them was but doesn't have access to the kingpin of this scandal

3. Maybe there is some other compulsion because of which he had to wait for 10 yrs

It has to do with missing children from the amusement park..

so highly likely organ harvesting or child trafficking or women abuse

When .. wednesdays? now that golden blood ended... hate this whole replay thing gmm does

This is so convinient:

1. Doctor said - House is so cluttered and it shows that owner can't let go of things (Mandatory requirement for Revenge Murders)

2. Someone pointed out - journalist murder - guitar seen; guitar seen in ML's room

3. FL's uncle dies and who gets the case? Who tries to lead it astray accusing FL, when he has a 100% crime solving rate?

4. Wine girl dies and who was roaming the streets that day when a citizen complained and he got caught?

5. Married man dying - someone was watching - this is unclear.. how did he reach them to watch them bury the body

6. Construction guy died - he knew FL was going to meet.. infact he did go there

7. Prosecutor dies - now this is not clear.. how did he reach there or were there a lot of misdirects

8. fish person dies - but FL gets jailed, He is desp. to get her acquitted

9. FL is most interesting.. the amount of trust communication she has with ML.. she is so playing him.. but is waiting to gather evidence

10 No one reads mysteery novels to become a stupid policestation

Yes.. i mean i asked this q upfront in ep 1 -

1. Why is FL so interested in ML; FL flaunts her interest in ML

2. FL finally slept at ML's place... because who is that 1 person who wants to keep her safe? Since, she is the only one harping on puzzle pieces and clearly murderer wants the hidden scandal to come out

3. Agatha christie, his interest in mystery.. and show made it a point for us to see that FL clocked that

4. FL gifting caps to all detectives after she got back her memory of someone else being in the house ---- lol... ya, that was not an innocent gift.. she was hoping for everyone to try it and see if she could recognize it.. ML never did


5. Wine Girl's murder - when report was made about a man lurking... and whom did we find?

6. ML freaking has an apartment in ONE CITY

7. Only thing is.. WHO is the poor child that ML's boss friend was trying to save saying he is not at fault... is that child one of the targets, assuming ML is the killer...

8. Remember he ever brought home ONE friend - where is that friend; did sthg happen to him or did sthg happen to ML's dad? This is revenge on behalf of whom?

9. In ep 1 itself, they establish that ML is much older than FL.. so 10 yrs ago also he was big enough to kill

10. why did he wait for 10 yrs before killing 2nd person - remember the restaurant he went to.. and found the girl and her husban? Clealry, he was missing some information and had to wait so long..

11. LMAO.. and who was the most desperate to bail out FL from jeju jail :D

Writing of this show is so good

I am on EP 4

1. I was right about what puzzle pieces show... they show the role the murdered person played in the past scandal
- first one was wolf in sheep's clothese
- 2nd who spread the rumour
- 3rd who lured the girls (we know this from bartender's words in EP 3 where she mentioned receiving an offer from the guy)

More and More i am suspicious of the Doctor. She is in the best position to guide people into doing and revealing whatever. Could the wife be receiving counseling sessions as well?


NOW, ONTO THE WRITING PART - genius move

Why did FL give hats to police guys as a gift?

BECAUSE, the murderer she saw 10 yrs ago was wearing a hat!... She has her suspicions for sure and is testing it out... m pretty sure she suspects everyone including ML

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I am more convinced of my original theory -

We do have a mastermind, but more people r helping with the murders because of that wine bar past scandal - many girls were abused so their family is here to take revenge

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Main kingpin of sex racket must be a VERY POWERFUL PERSON.. hence all families losing hope in justice and supporting mastermind

Ok ep 3 -

1. She is a profiler right, and she is too obsessed with ML
2. ML with tattoo , in a country where it is not accepted, and drama makes it a point to highlight it


At this point, really going to stick with my revenge story.

Girls / Girl that was abused .. their/her loved ones coming together to take revenge or her love

And at this point, Doctor is most suspicious (we have too many people suffering from psychiatrist problem and all of them r connected to police station)

Who is to say, doctor didn't hypnotize and try to get the lost memories long time back from FL...


Also, can this drama be SOOO SMART to turn ML into a very planned killer. I don't understand why FL is obsessed with him.

i don't know about this show but What Dreams May Come deals with similar theme.. and probably the 1st known work in this genre

can someone spoil plz - who is han jimin in real life/when she was alive.. and the old lady and ML were/are the true husband -wife pair right?

Haven't started ep 3 yet

10 years because it is not serial killer but revenge murder. So,


a) the killer probably doesn't know who all were involved and with each victim he finds out who the next will be

b) if not a, then for some reason he has to kill them in a particular order to be able to kill the final king


c) police officer went to meet this restaurant lady who returned after 10 yrs; so likely point a is correct

d) i will have to look at the piece again.. did it show gun? .. i thought pieces r more about the person being killed and how murderer sees them - like, red riding hood wolf, the the rumour lady

Which is probably the role each dead person played in the original heinous act they carried out together


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Too many suspects at this time:

1. Then Psychiatrist doctor - my #1 pic
2. It could also be a few people involved like MURDER ON ORIENT EXPRESS


no conclusive idea on the killer yet

will watch 3,4 then come back

i am parking my hypothesis here at end of ep 2

1. Opening scenes shows how murder will take place. I counted them - exactly nine. We saw car murder, awl murder... others will come e.g. drowning suitcase etc

2. 9 murders, 9 pieces


3. Ep 2 - they said 7-8 police officers used to visit the bar. LOL.. this is a revenge murder and not a random serial killer .... it is 9 people involved in some dark history.. so 8 officers + 1 lady.. or 7 officers + 1 lady + 1 handler/someone... 9 people

4. If police is involved and a revenge murder... i think some serious sexual abuse or murdering an entire family happened

5. Why is FL getting the pieces? They mentioned she is super rich and her parents died... owner of hospital... What are the chances that FL's parents died and she is getting hints from murderer.. while her uncle was killed by the same murderer....


Ans is: her parents were also killed because as doctors they probably got involved in the sexual abuse/ or whatever black scandal is associated with that bar (maybe they treated the victim who eventually died... and that victim's family/friend is seeking revenge now)

6. I can't make out what the 1st piece is - looks like a wolf - so uncle was a wolf in sheep's clothing??? But 2nd puzzle - i immediately clocked it is about rumour (woman's snake like tongue going through another's ears).... AND rightly so... because "rumour" emerges as the theme in ep 2 regarding involvement of police with the bar



ONTO EP 3

Gosh.. Only Friends Dream ON NOW!

But i don't think we will get it before Nov-Dec (MGB took 4 months of shooting, so best case scenario 4 months of shooting, 1.5 months of post prod work, finding slot and airing - Nov)

rati or dice

Mostly bang on.. this series's success is 99.9% Joss Gawin chemistry and acting..

Its a unique vibe; very raw and natural intimacy... it was FUN because of them...

Whoever stayed beyond ep 1 was because of Joss and by Ep 4 it was Joss Gawin ( Gawin's innocent character took some time to adjust; for others Joss flat acting in initial ep took some time without realizing that it was an acting)

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Stoic face acting's best example though is Wang Yibo in Untamed

And BL actor chemistry - HANDS DOWN JG

Barcode has recently joined; he is a good actor; we r yet to see him paired with another man and exude the chemistry JG did

K - i find him over rated. You don't have to agree but i don't fin his chemistry electrifying. He is a good actor that i give you.. but on the romantic chemistry - no

F- individually i like him but his pair as an acting duo sure.. but as chemistry it does not work for me AT ALL..

And going by fandom sizes etc.. i don't think FK couple is as popular.. lets's see what happenes when they get their solo drama

This drama is a classic example of

1. BL which is out an out romance. No one does that anymore
2. Leads being phenomenal actors and have great chemistry. Literally, hardly a BL pair like them exists (not in GMMTV for sure... except Ohm Nanon; GMMTV has a lot of popular ships but not as versatile or talented)

3. Absolute case study in sensuous intimate and romantic scenes - kudos to both director and the leads

4. Don't reveal ending.. because it takes away the experience from emotional scenes (sorry, but since ending was known with that office thing... the life and death scenes were great but stakes were never high and just lacked that final emotional punch)

5. This couple - it is unique.. with BL exploding and GMMTV eyeing new markets as their focus, expanding into diff. areas... i think we r in for quite interesting opportunities

Singha... so don't know if you know this... GMMTV has this thing of family trees wherein fans categorize actors into family

Poon and Barcode are tagged "sons" of JG.. and Joss himself has a lot of fun with this..

And Singha as their grand daughter..

So, in one of the earlier interviews JG were asked which GMMTV actors would they want to convert to vampire and JG answere Poon and Barcode; after which Joss said.. and this person too whom we met at basketball court.. and asked Gawin - fkg guy was teasing.. he was talking about singha too


She plays basketball... also appeared to support them in one of the matches of 3 fight 3 basketball, which is every sunday

You are the big idiot.. because it is ONLY YOU who is having a co-ordination problem with her/his typing, eyes, and brain

Such lame attempt at ridiculous excuses by making stuff up and then trying to pretend didn't mean it... tch tch.. so stupid