Watching episode 3 and idk but am I the only one who finds the young juror with glasses somewhat suspicious? The…
i am hoping that when kids escaped they were able to tell the judge dad (rather SH told the truth).. he and his wife made sure that center closes down and masked identity of two boys to save them from harm..
Now, kids who were there then would have been saved. I THINK, the boy who got caught because he fell into the trap (little boy) is the specy juror and is helping SH
When Sunghoon is drawing the people selected for jury duty out of a bowl in ep. 1, there's a split-second shot…
it is very in your face shot.. no one can miss it.. but i am curious why 13. he should react to his number 11.. why 13.. why is YJ important.. is it hate for the number because had he not fallen all 5 would have escaped?
Ofcourse SH, judge.. this drama is good.. so many clues already shared.. but they are well placed and well timed.. you know it is an evidence and yet want to watch the show.. not boring at all
1. ep 1, timestamp 42.53 - he is carving wood 2. Juror selection is not really random. 3 of them already have connection to past - dead girl who is policeman's daughter, taxi guy who was a guard, FL who is daughter of nurse who worked there... Who is in position to influence juror selection? The one who selected the final balls was him. Pretty sure he had some trick to identify numbers 3. ep 2, after announcing decision.. as fight broke.. his expressions are weird.. they change the moment SJ/Taec intervens with the culprit who was presumably playing the act to get to the juros' phone number sheet 4. ep2 , 28.36 - SJ/Taec "How does he not have a single flaw" .. this in kdrama world is "look look he is the killer" 5. casting itself - killer is smart, actor is literally titled "smartest".. and he really does not take on stupid roles 6. Mom recognized the guy who was put in prison in ep 1 .. meaning, killer used him for a reason and asked him to fake act like killer.. guessing he too has some connection with the past (anyway works for Baek) 7. Biker - led to prisoner escape, .. where escape happened is very close to the courthouse.. giving him perfect alibi.. and when taec calls to check, we see him getting out of car and walking into the courthouse (so he DID step out) 8. Think this is revenge for girls death and rpe.. and not just for being brutually treated in that orphanage 9. Not sure if editing error, ep 3 25.52 - he is checking his phone .. we see closeup of calls made and timestamp of the calls .. all calls are post 2 am ( murder happened before 2 am).. seems like only messages were sent beforehand.. atleast call to the dead lady did not happen before 2.. infact we don't see her number on that list 10. Ep1.. SH told the other kid to reach and meet MOM.. i am guessing the restaurant lady we see whom SJ keep scalling mom, is that kid and SH's mom 11. Ep 3 - 50.11 FL is informed that ye na (the other girl around her) is dating some older guys and one of them is going to pick her up (OLDER!!!) .. as to why.. i don't know but FL's mom was a nurse in that orphanage 12. this is brilliant, ep 3 1.00.53 - politician mom "Whenever I see him, I am reminded of that place.... even i'm struggling this much.. can he really forget what happened" .. she is very soft.. and we know SJ has lost his memories of those times.. SHE IS TALKING ABOUT OUR KILLER.. NO HE HAS NOT FORGOTTEN ANYTHING.. infact next scene cuts to his face going in to meet the accused murderer in hospital 13. ep 4 - the ex guard now juror told Baek that he thinks he found a boy out of 5 who tried to escape.. we don't know who he talked about.. Baek only saw the locket and assumed SJ/tae is the one ex guard mentioned.. BUT i think he was threatening our killer about ousting his secret
I was expecting this. Each of the juror seems to have some relation with the past. One juror was policeman's daughter, 1 was a guard in that center beating kids, 1 (FL) is daughter of nurse who worked there --- 3 people right there to be killed ********************* Also, pretty sure both judge and policeman are adopted. Taec has lost his memories.. but our judge is way too SMART to not be the KILLER :D
FL has this other girl that she is guardian of right? That girl in ep 3 - someone said that "older guys pick her up" when we saw the bike... Now judge is def. an older guy ****************** THe ex guard, now juror, taxi guy told Baek that "I have found a guy and still confirming" then we see him talking to the judge.. Pretty sure he meant the judge himself and not his brother ********************** taec doesn't have his memories. Definitely not the killer, but it is sad that it was his real sister who got rpd and killed. Who knows maybe the leader/one of older boys was close to his sister too and this revenge killing is for the rap and killing of the girl and not really for Hope center. ******************** Killer list boiled down to (and i think it is not 1 person job but more are involved) - 1. Judge - the only one who has access to all names and phone numbers and also knew exactly who is where (Who can be the person that dead lady 2 was willing to meet in park so late at night.. someone credible right?) (One of the boys was shown to have a burn mark on hand, yet to see judge's hand + politician mom looked at family portrait and said to husband how can he not remember (now we know that SJ DEFINITELY does not remember.. so she was obviously talking about SH)
2. The two juror boys - specy and cook.. they are good age to be judge's team.. ************************** FL has a past connection. FL told her mom that " She also used to get lost when alone when she was a kid".. I M POSITIVE that she witnessed the death of the other girl and her memories might be blocked ************** EDIT - rewatched ep 1 - only 2 boys survive.. one is dead, one caught, 3rd trapped so presumably caught or dead
I will say the youngest juror, cafe owner guy is involved.. potentially he is also the bike guy
*********** Question - 6 kids escaped right? 1 died in car accident, 1 was taken back and presumably killed 2 kids were hiding in the basement ( one had his eyes open, the other almost cried) blood dripping on their faces.. but were they spotted by the officer or not? 2 kids were in the dump area .. and my guess is those two did survive and escape
But then in the show the father of 1st victim said 5 had escaped and out of that he is specifically looking for 1.
it could even be that 2 boys are helping each other out to do these murders ***************** Why would they adopt Taec when they have their own son. I guess both boys are adopted. I thought both would be from the hope orphange but doesn't look like it ************** the girl - is that FL .. or did the girl die ..
I have this doubt too! Is he antagonist in this drama or any relative to p'payu!
He is not antagonist because ep 6 chai mentioned that he has his own boy aka his own love interest and generally seems to be doing all the right things.. interesting that he was at the race circuit that happened the night before
can someone tell me who is P'akin. .. as in which actor, who is his boy (lol ep 6) and what is his role in this universe..
as in is he a character that has appeared before in some other drama? is his love track another book in the series? there just seems to be way too much mention of him and being build into a major character
man the suspense. How is that with every episode I feel like things are coming together but with the next episode…
youngest sister is materialistic (that's how it is in the books too). She wants a good life. In this show, i think she wants to make sure she gets to go to boston and hence anything she needs to sacrifice to make her dream come true
Now, kids who were there then would have been saved. I THINK, the boy who got caught because he fell into the trap (little boy) is the specy juror and is helping SH
1. ep 1, timestamp 42.53 - he is carving wood
2. Juror selection is not really random. 3 of them already have connection to past - dead girl who is policeman's daughter, taxi guy who was a guard, FL who is daughter of nurse who worked there... Who is in position to influence juror selection? The one who selected the final balls was him. Pretty sure he had some trick to identify numbers
3. ep 2, after announcing decision.. as fight broke.. his expressions are weird.. they change the moment SJ/Taec intervens with the culprit who was presumably playing the act to get to the juros' phone number sheet
4. ep2 , 28.36 - SJ/Taec "How does he not have a single flaw" .. this in kdrama world is "look look he is the killer"
5. casting itself - killer is smart, actor is literally titled "smartest".. and he really does not take on stupid roles
6. Mom recognized the guy who was put in prison in ep 1 .. meaning, killer used him for a reason and asked him to fake act like killer.. guessing he too has some connection with the past (anyway works for Baek)
7. Biker - led to prisoner escape, .. where escape happened is very close to the courthouse.. giving him perfect alibi.. and when taec calls to check, we see him getting out of car and walking into the courthouse (so he DID step out)
8. Think this is revenge for girls death and rpe.. and not just for being brutually treated in that orphanage
9. Not sure if editing error, ep 3 25.52 - he is checking his phone .. we see closeup of calls made and timestamp of the calls .. all calls are post 2 am ( murder happened before 2 am).. seems like only messages were sent beforehand.. atleast call to the dead lady did not happen before 2.. infact we don't see her number on that list
10. Ep1.. SH told the other kid to reach and meet MOM.. i am guessing the restaurant lady we see whom SJ keep scalling mom, is that kid and SH's mom
11. Ep 3 - 50.11 FL is informed that ye na (the other girl around her) is dating some older guys and one of them is going to pick her up (OLDER!!!) .. as to why.. i don't know but FL's mom was a nurse in that orphanage
12. this is brilliant, ep 3 1.00.53 - politician mom "Whenever I see him, I am reminded of that place.... even i'm struggling this much.. can he really forget what happened" .. she is very soft.. and we know SJ has lost his memories of those times.. SHE IS TALKING ABOUT OUR KILLER.. NO HE HAS NOT FORGOTTEN ANYTHING.. infact next scene cuts to his face going in to meet the accused murderer in hospital
13. ep 4 - the ex guard now juror told Baek that he thinks he found a boy out of 5 who tried to escape.. we don't know who he talked about.. Baek only saw the locket and assumed SJ/tae is the one ex guard mentioned.. BUT i think he was threatening our killer about ousting his secret
I was expecting this. Each of the juror seems to have some relation with the past. One juror was policeman's daughter, 1 was a guard in that center beating kids, 1 (FL) is daughter of nurse who worked there --- 3 people right there to be killed
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Also, pretty sure both judge and policeman are adopted. Taec has lost his memories.. but our judge is way too SMART to not be the KILLER :D
FL has this other girl that she is guardian of right? That girl in ep 3 - someone said that "older guys pick her up" when we saw the bike...
Now judge is def. an older guy
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THe ex guard, now juror, taxi guy told Baek that "I have found a guy and still confirming" then we see him talking to the judge..
Pretty sure he meant the judge himself and not his brother
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taec doesn't have his memories. Definitely not the killer, but it is sad that it was his real sister who got rpd and killed. Who knows maybe the leader/one of older boys was close to his sister too and this revenge killing is for the rap and killing of the girl and not really for Hope center.
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Killer list boiled down to (and i think it is not 1 person job but more are involved) -
1. Judge - the only one who has access to all names and phone numbers and also knew exactly who is where (Who can be the person that dead lady 2 was willing to meet in park so late at night.. someone credible right?)
(One of the boys was shown to have a burn mark on hand, yet to see judge's hand + politician mom looked at family portrait and said to husband how can he not remember (now we know that SJ DEFINITELY does not remember.. so she was obviously talking about SH)
2. The two juror boys - specy and cook.. they are good age to be judge's team..
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FL has a past connection. FL told her mom that " She also used to get lost when alone when she was a kid".. I M POSITIVE that she witnessed the death of the other girl and her memories might be blocked
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EDIT - rewatched ep 1 - only 2 boys survive.. one is dead, one caught, 3rd trapped so presumably caught or dead
I will say the youngest juror, cafe owner guy is involved.. potentially he is also the bike guy
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Question -
6 kids escaped right? 1 died in car accident, 1 was taken back and presumably killed
2 kids were hiding in the basement ( one had his eyes open, the other almost cried) blood dripping on their faces.. but were they spotted by the officer or not?
2 kids were in the dump area .. and my guess is those two did survive and escape
But then in the show the father of 1st victim said 5 had escaped and out of that he is specifically looking for 1.
it could even be that 2 boys are helping each other out to do these murders
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Why would they adopt Taec when they have their own son. I guess both boys are adopted. I thought both would be from the hope orphange but doesn't look like it
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the girl - is that FL .. or did the girl die ..
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Who is dying next :D :D
so basically 6 ep to each couple and last ep of each story has both couple (ep 7 and 14)
as in is he a character that has appeared before in some other drama? is his love track another book in the series? there just seems to be way too much mention of him and being build into a major character