enigmatic_zephy

lol..in real life too it would be strictly contactless, one-sided emotional state..
and fangirling is anything but platonic.. if it were platonic it would be you just appreciating the art of the actor not fangirling him/her

So, you and I disconnect over the very definition of what emotions fangirling entails.. i don't see it as platonic at all.. there is nothing platonic about buying products your fav endorses, there is nothing platonic about consciously waiting for his videos/interviews/concerts..whatever.. in summary fangirling IS NOT PLATONIC by its nature (not by definition)

Even in real life your crush may not know that you exist or does not exist.. or if you like someone they maynot know about you..but that does not make it right to oggle at a committed man/woman

You are wrong on the inference of your premise - if you say that actors are aware of the fans and they are aware exactly what commercial role a fandom plays in their career AND that they are OK with that, then this very premise makes all the extreme fan behavior/invasion of privacy absolutely ok, because the actor willingly gave consent and promoted the fandom concept knowing what it means (it is not platonic love that brings the insane commercial value - that's a hard truth).. and i think actors should be given the same respect as you would to another person in the society.. if you choose to disrespect then onus is on you (which includes objectifying)


the way it is wrong to gossip about others' love lives, people shouldn't do it for actors too.. do not invade privacy - if that's wrong for one person, it should be wrong for all

and people may have different opinion, but i think it is despicable if you proactively crush over or harbour any non platonic feelings for someone else's partner - that's just cheap..which is different from acknowledging a b'ful person as b'ful (which is probably what you are referring to)

But, yes appreciate the actor and his acting.. and fangirl sarawat as much as you want..appreciate the beauty of Bright..but be smart enough to own your time investment

Closeted gay was a phase.. i am talking about till the very end.. i never felt Mathew was good at it...and novel or no novel, if you are playing a character and are not able to sell what the character is feeling it is a fail..

to me as audience he should have sold the idea of him being in character and hence feeling awkward..but no..i always felt him being the actor and him his real self who was awkward
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I don't know about any of the other couples so won't comment. I know DBK side couple became really famous..but sorry i tried one episode..individually none of the actors impressed me so could't continue
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Tharntype fails on consistency of overall quality. Only consistent thing were actors (main, side) - if not for the actors themselves series was lacklustre - story, editing, direction, scripting consistency, ..and at one point even actors could not hide the dramas flaws..it very quickly escalated into the obscure illogical frame of BL dramas from yore

About Type's dad- he was hardly there and i was bored of the series enough so never watched the last episode when tharn visits type's family.. and i don't know that actors' previous work to say whether he was a genius on the show or not

personal preferences i think.. example i honestly think shadowhunter couple super over-rated.. because i feel the awkwardness or the fact that he is telling himself that he is acting and it does not come naturally (mathhew) - it was meh!

I have to say, if someone has done wonders with his character it is green..because he brings a very positive energy to a character like green whom we have seen in every drama bl or straight since decades and it is always annoying..

Bright-Win onscreen chemistry is working for me ..atleast in these 4 episodes.. brother and his love story falls FLAT

and ofscreen, being just friends, just actors is a relief..
hate that unnecessary stuff ( i know people love mew and i think he is a capable actor..but man! i hate his over over fan service...cringey and after a point made me lose interest in him because nothing came off as genuine)

to be honest, i don't know about others, tharntype was explosive but for 1st 6 episodes and it was explosive not because of plot but because of the love scenes.. and i appreciate actors trying to break the boundaries..but ultimately the story/plot failed them..

This series, up until now has some witty humour (which is so rare).. let's see how it goes from here

Lastly, i am not sure if Bright is actually a good actor or Win is actually a good actor becuase this role is very much who they are and it is in comfort zone.. so they SHINE! (just as Hyeri in reply 1988)

It is Happy ending

ha ha.. fangirling is fangirling.. what all of you do..
think of this way, in real life would you "fangirl" about someone else's husband or boyfriend..

i just don't think that's right

borders should be drawn

ok.. this was irritating me.. so i was thinking who bright reminds me of..becuase he does look familiar and i realize his looks/appeal is similar to the male lead in After (young voldemort)

anyway..since he has a girlfriend.. gonna keep away from fangirling him .. support the actor and his craft..but no fangirling :(

what!!!! untamed is worth it.. ashes of love is worth it.. so many chinese dramas are worth it
for that matter i actually dropped pillow.. its good but couldn't hold my attention

american half thai

Plz share the link to the novel

don't think its cowardly to not stray from original book.. if you had to stray , might as well make a new drama then why do they need to use the name of the book - to pull fans and for commercials? - which would be selfish and such a corporate move

adaptation has to remain true to the storyline and major character motivations.. even established series such as agatha christie's remakes stick to what it was.. or sherlock ( which has inspired some of the biggest adaptations both in terms of novels and live actions..even there the core semblance of relationships between characters is maintained)

i'd say cultural because it is not BL thing..you find that in straight dramas too..and then the whole existence of slap kiss genre

PM plz

where to read in english?

It appears that your only exposure to this story is the drama UNTAMED..
but if you really want to enjoy a good piece of writing, read the novel..

MDZS is a huge fandom.. and the novel does warrant this.. it broke stereotypes at so many level and this drama does too..
While you may compare it with fantasy and may find things not appealing.. but drama has also contributed in its own way to a lot of other aspects of society.. 1) treatment of danmei IN China 2) Adaptation 3) quality content even if budget is low

and lastly, as with any adaptation - those who go into watching drama/movie after being aware of original content.. will obviously perceive way more than a new viewer (in terms of layering of characters and scenes) (take LoR or Harry potter world for example)

ha ha.. and there is me.. who really tried hard but was so god damn bored of guardian.. couldn't survive 10 episodes..

Untamed gains momentum at ep 13-14.. and better still you should read the novel so that you can understand the hints and hidden clues and clever workarounds

plus this story is so much more than romance.. it has solid character building and hence the huge fandom

you sure? yu bin calls XZ ge ge in some bts video

in essence.. not scene by scene

romance picks up or becomes obvious in ep 13 onwards.. for most people the drama clicked at ep 14

Don't you give an expresssion when you remember something nice ..

he thought he heard his voice/ echo.. and smiled remembering that - "Wei yeing" in LZ's voice..

See offscreen i don't deny WY and LZ keep in touch.. and the doors are always open for both Gusu sect and his original home.. and the other two clans too (because NHS is a freind and JL is now the leader of the 4th sect) .. and then there is WY and LSZ..

but still.. being there traveling like XXC and SL , the way WY wanted.. :P not so sure

lol.. no author made sure ONE person is ALWAYS RIGHT :P
no wonder he is the light bearing sword :P