also I suspect the Killer's gender to be a "female" since there were no signs of power or control over the victims…
That seems to be the only serial killing that keeps getting remakes..
And after all these years when they finally caught the killer.. it was such a irony of life kind of a twist (given the reason he was actually in jail and the reason those murders stopped in the 1st place)
also I suspect the Killer's gender to be a "female" since there were no signs of power or control over the victims…
oh that time travel thing? oh dear.. that started off well .. but then..
lol.. the police officer was quite dumb.. don't tell me, all my fab theories will go down the hill and the police officer is genuinely just emotional fool
I agree with you - the children disappearing from the amusement park (which btw seems to be girls based on puzzle painting) and the serial killing of the girls.. may be related or go back to the 9 people crime group
There is definite sexual abuse involved or even trafficking *************** Ena's parents are doctors.. that is why i am more inclined to think that it is organ harvesting or some victim abuse that they seek healthcare
Property price manipulation is possible, but i think in that case.. it should still lead to multiple deaths/suicides of families
Without death.. this revenge falls weak
******************* I am positive that our killer, the mastermind has accomplices
**************** Team leader - i don't think he knows who is the killer. What he knows is the dirty secret. It appears in the past, he let go of the case because he was offered sthg - maybe some security for the orphanage kids or threatened into giving up
Remember the victim story ML shared - about team lead apologizing to victim for not doing the right thing - we should know who that victim is.. will throw light
Which brings us to his final words - the name he gave - the kid that team lead is thinking of is probably at best the accomplice
**************** press briefing was most definitely to oust the dirty secrets or frame it in a way that a) tells the world the heinous secret so that killer is satisfied b) take the entire blame so that remaining 3 scums don't hurt his orphanage kids
they just announced season 1 replay so maybe it’s coming soon. filming has been done for months.
Sunday? when they already have boys in love..? interesting.. i doubt.. one of those shows would take up Wednesday slot.. i thought GMMTV had only wed and sat slots available
also I suspect the Killer's gender to be a "female" since there were no signs of power or control over the victims…
what is proxy murder?
I am positive the scandal involves children, so more than 1 family got destroyed..
people have to collaborate for these murders to take place. Last murder, if we assume ML is the main mastermind then who was in the field with the gun? Another person.
FL keeps saying that killer knows her very well. Who, besides her doctor, knows her really well?
Do you remember the scene where ML ran to meet this lady at the restaurant, who came back to Korea after 10 years?
1. Killer wants to oust the dirty scandal, but other than FL no one took the hint 2. Killer may not know who all 9 people are... and gets some clue with each murder to progress to next... or maybe he already knew what the role of some of them was but doesn't have access to the kingpin of this scandal
3. Maybe there is some other compulsion because of which he had to wait for 10 yrs
if the writers were really smart they would make ml the killer and the rollo tomassi foreshadowing would be insane…
Yes.. i mean i asked this q upfront in ep 1 -
1. Why is FL so interested in ML; FL flaunts her interest in ML
2. FL finally slept at ML's place... because who is that 1 person who wants to keep her safe? Since, she is the only one harping on puzzle pieces and clearly murderer wants the hidden scandal to come out
3. Agatha christie, his interest in mystery.. and show made it a point for us to see that FL clocked that
4. FL gifting caps to all detectives after she got back her memory of someone else being in the house ---- lol... ya, that was not an innocent gift.. she was hoping for everyone to try it and see if she could recognize it.. ML never did
5. Wine Girl's murder - when report was made about a man lurking... and whom did we find?
6. ML freaking has an apartment in ONE CITY
7. Only thing is.. WHO is the poor child that ML's boss friend was trying to save saying he is not at fault... is that child one of the targets, assuming ML is the killer...
8. Remember he ever brought home ONE friend - where is that friend; did sthg happen to him or did sthg happen to ML's dad? This is revenge on behalf of whom?
9. In ep 1 itself, they establish that ML is much older than FL.. so 10 yrs ago also he was big enough to kill
10. why did he wait for 10 yrs before killing 2nd person - remember the restaurant he went to.. and found the girl and her husban? Clealry, he was missing some information and had to wait so long..
11. LMAO.. and who was the most desperate to bail out FL from jeju jail :D
1. I was right about what puzzle pieces show... they show the role the murdered person played in the past scandal - first one was wolf in sheep's clothese - 2nd who spread the rumour - 3rd who lured the girls (we know this from bartender's words in EP 3 where she mentioned receiving an offer from the guy)
More and More i am suspicious of the Doctor. She is in the best position to guide people into doing and revealing whatever. Could the wife be receiving counseling sessions as well?
NOW, ONTO THE WRITING PART - genius move
Why did FL give hats to police guys as a gift?
BECAUSE, the murderer she saw 10 yrs ago was wearing a hat!... She has her suspicions for sure and is testing it out... m pretty sure she suspects everyone including ML
********************************* I am more convinced of my original theory -
We do have a mastermind, but more people r helping with the murders because of that wine bar past scandal - many girls were abused so their family is here to take revenge
********************************
Main kingpin of sex racket must be a VERY POWERFUL PERSON.. hence all families losing hope in justice and supporting mastermind
1. She is a profiler right, and she is too obsessed with ML 2. ML with tattoo , in a country where it is not accepted, and drama makes it a point to highlight it
At this point, really going to stick with my revenge story.
Girls / Girl that was abused .. their/her loved ones coming together to take revenge or her love
And at this point, Doctor is most suspicious (we have too many people suffering from psychiatrist problem and all of them r connected to police station)
Who is to say, doctor didn't hypnotize and try to get the lost memories long time back from FL...
Also, can this drama be SOOO SMART to turn ML into a very planned killer. I don't understand why FL is obsessed with him.
Interesting ...Can you help me with other things. They may become clear later in the series a d I am at ep3 ...…
Haven't started ep 3 yet
10 years because it is not serial killer but revenge murder. So,
a) the killer probably doesn't know who all were involved and with each victim he finds out who the next will be
b) if not a, then for some reason he has to kill them in a particular order to be able to kill the final king
c) police officer went to meet this restaurant lady who returned after 10 yrs; so likely point a is correct
d) i will have to look at the piece again.. did it show gun? .. i thought pieces r more about the person being killed and how murderer sees them - like, red riding hood wolf, the the rumour lady
Which is probably the role each dead person played in the original heinous act they carried out together
************************* Too many suspects at this time:
1. Then Psychiatrist doctor - my #1 pic 2. It could also be a few people involved like MURDER ON ORIENT EXPRESS
1. Opening scenes shows how murder will take place. I counted them - exactly nine. We saw car murder, awl murder... others will come e.g. drowning suitcase etc
2. 9 murders, 9 pieces
3. Ep 2 - they said 7-8 police officers used to visit the bar. LOL.. this is a revenge murder and not a random serial killer .... it is 9 people involved in some dark history.. so 8 officers + 1 lady.. or 7 officers + 1 lady + 1 handler/someone... 9 people
4. If police is involved and a revenge murder... i think some serious sexual abuse or murdering an entire family happened
5. Why is FL getting the pieces? They mentioned she is super rich and her parents died... owner of hospital... What are the chances that FL's parents died and she is getting hints from murderer.. while her uncle was killed by the same murderer....
Ans is: her parents were also killed because as doctors they probably got involved in the sexual abuse/ or whatever black scandal is associated with that bar (maybe they treated the victim who eventually died... and that victim's family/friend is seeking revenge now)
6. I can't make out what the 1st piece is - looks like a wolf - so uncle was a wolf in sheep's clothing??? But 2nd puzzle - i immediately clocked it is about rumour (woman's snake like tongue going through another's ears).... AND rightly so... because "rumour" emerges as the theme in ep 2 regarding involvement of police with the bar
But i don't think we will get it before Nov-Dec (MGB took 4 months of shooting, so best case scenario 4 months of shooting, 1.5 months of post prod work, finding slot and airing - Nov)
And after all these years when they finally caught the killer.. it was such a irony of life kind of a twist (given the reason he was actually in jail and the reason those murders stopped in the 1st place)
lol.. the police officer was quite dumb.. don't tell me, all my fab theories will go down the hill and the police officer is genuinely just emotional fool
There is definite sexual abuse involved or even trafficking
***************
Ena's parents are doctors.. that is why i am more inclined to think that it is organ harvesting or some victim abuse that they seek healthcare
Property price manipulation is possible, but i think in that case.. it should still lead to multiple deaths/suicides of families
Without death.. this revenge falls weak
*******************
I am positive that our killer, the mastermind has accomplices
****************
Team leader - i don't think he knows who is the killer. What he knows is the dirty secret. It appears in the past, he let go of the case because he was offered sthg - maybe some security for the orphanage kids or threatened into giving up
Remember the victim story ML shared - about team lead apologizing to victim for not doing the right thing - we should know who that victim is.. will throw light
Which brings us to his final words - the name he gave - the kid that team lead is thinking of is probably at best the accomplice
****************
press briefing was most definitely to oust the dirty secrets or frame it in a way that a) tells the world the heinous secret so that killer is satisfied b) take the entire blame so that remaining 3 scums don't hurt his orphanage kids
so i wonder how many of BL obscure countries are true
I also recall, one person posting that she alone made her country trend.. so threshold must be really low to trend
****************
more a commentary on how social media can be rigged
I am positive the scandal involves children, so more than 1 family got destroyed..
people have to collaborate for these murders to take place. Last murder, if we assume ML is the main mastermind then who was in the field with the gun? Another person.
FL keeps saying that killer knows her very well. Who, besides her doctor, knows her really well?
Female Doctor who knows FL really really well.. probably is sister of some victim
ML must be involved somehow as well...
But definitely not 1 person show, there are accomplices
1. Killer wants to oust the dirty scandal, but other than FL no one took the hint
2. Killer may not know who all 9 people are... and gets some clue with each murder to progress to next... or maybe he already knew what the role of some of them was but doesn't have access to the kingpin of this scandal
3. Maybe there is some other compulsion because of which he had to wait for 10 yrs
so highly likely organ harvesting or child trafficking or women abuse
1. Doctor said - House is so cluttered and it shows that owner can't let go of things (Mandatory requirement for Revenge Murders)
2. Someone pointed out - journalist murder - guitar seen; guitar seen in ML's room
3. FL's uncle dies and who gets the case? Who tries to lead it astray accusing FL, when he has a 100% crime solving rate?
4. Wine girl dies and who was roaming the streets that day when a citizen complained and he got caught?
5. Married man dying - someone was watching - this is unclear.. how did he reach them to watch them bury the body
6. Construction guy died - he knew FL was going to meet.. infact he did go there
7. Prosecutor dies - now this is not clear.. how did he reach there or were there a lot of misdirects
8. fish person dies - but FL gets jailed, He is desp. to get her acquitted
9. FL is most interesting.. the amount of trust communication she has with ML.. she is so playing him.. but is waiting to gather evidence
10 No one reads mysteery novels to become a stupid policestation
1. Why is FL so interested in ML; FL flaunts her interest in ML
2. FL finally slept at ML's place... because who is that 1 person who wants to keep her safe? Since, she is the only one harping on puzzle pieces and clearly murderer wants the hidden scandal to come out
3. Agatha christie, his interest in mystery.. and show made it a point for us to see that FL clocked that
4. FL gifting caps to all detectives after she got back her memory of someone else being in the house ---- lol... ya, that was not an innocent gift.. she was hoping for everyone to try it and see if she could recognize it.. ML never did
5. Wine Girl's murder - when report was made about a man lurking... and whom did we find?
6. ML freaking has an apartment in ONE CITY
7. Only thing is.. WHO is the poor child that ML's boss friend was trying to save saying he is not at fault... is that child one of the targets, assuming ML is the killer...
8. Remember he ever brought home ONE friend - where is that friend; did sthg happen to him or did sthg happen to ML's dad? This is revenge on behalf of whom?
9. In ep 1 itself, they establish that ML is much older than FL.. so 10 yrs ago also he was big enough to kill
10. why did he wait for 10 yrs before killing 2nd person - remember the restaurant he went to.. and found the girl and her husban? Clealry, he was missing some information and had to wait so long..
11. LMAO.. and who was the most desperate to bail out FL from jeju jail :D
I am on EP 4
1. I was right about what puzzle pieces show... they show the role the murdered person played in the past scandal
- first one was wolf in sheep's clothese
- 2nd who spread the rumour
- 3rd who lured the girls (we know this from bartender's words in EP 3 where she mentioned receiving an offer from the guy)
More and More i am suspicious of the Doctor. She is in the best position to guide people into doing and revealing whatever. Could the wife be receiving counseling sessions as well?
NOW, ONTO THE WRITING PART - genius move
Why did FL give hats to police guys as a gift?
BECAUSE, the murderer she saw 10 yrs ago was wearing a hat!... She has her suspicions for sure and is testing it out... m pretty sure she suspects everyone including ML
*********************************
I am more convinced of my original theory -
We do have a mastermind, but more people r helping with the murders because of that wine bar past scandal - many girls were abused so their family is here to take revenge
********************************
Main kingpin of sex racket must be a VERY POWERFUL PERSON.. hence all families losing hope in justice and supporting mastermind
1. She is a profiler right, and she is too obsessed with ML
2. ML with tattoo , in a country where it is not accepted, and drama makes it a point to highlight it
At this point, really going to stick with my revenge story.
Girls / Girl that was abused .. their/her loved ones coming together to take revenge or her love
And at this point, Doctor is most suspicious (we have too many people suffering from psychiatrist problem and all of them r connected to police station)
Who is to say, doctor didn't hypnotize and try to get the lost memories long time back from FL...
Also, can this drama be SOOO SMART to turn ML into a very planned killer. I don't understand why FL is obsessed with him.
10 years because it is not serial killer but revenge murder. So,
a) the killer probably doesn't know who all were involved and with each victim he finds out who the next will be
b) if not a, then for some reason he has to kill them in a particular order to be able to kill the final king
c) police officer went to meet this restaurant lady who returned after 10 yrs; so likely point a is correct
d) i will have to look at the piece again.. did it show gun? .. i thought pieces r more about the person being killed and how murderer sees them - like, red riding hood wolf, the the rumour lady
Which is probably the role each dead person played in the original heinous act they carried out together
*************************
Too many suspects at this time:
1. Then Psychiatrist doctor - my #1 pic
2. It could also be a few people involved like MURDER ON ORIENT EXPRESS
no conclusive idea on the killer yet
will watch 3,4 then come back
1. Opening scenes shows how murder will take place. I counted them - exactly nine. We saw car murder, awl murder... others will come e.g. drowning suitcase etc
2. 9 murders, 9 pieces
3. Ep 2 - they said 7-8 police officers used to visit the bar. LOL.. this is a revenge murder and not a random serial killer .... it is 9 people involved in some dark history.. so 8 officers + 1 lady.. or 7 officers + 1 lady + 1 handler/someone... 9 people
4. If police is involved and a revenge murder... i think some serious sexual abuse or murdering an entire family happened
5. Why is FL getting the pieces? They mentioned she is super rich and her parents died... owner of hospital... What are the chances that FL's parents died and she is getting hints from murderer.. while her uncle was killed by the same murderer....
Ans is: her parents were also killed because as doctors they probably got involved in the sexual abuse/ or whatever black scandal is associated with that bar (maybe they treated the victim who eventually died... and that victim's family/friend is seeking revenge now)
6. I can't make out what the 1st piece is - looks like a wolf - so uncle was a wolf in sheep's clothing??? But 2nd puzzle - i immediately clocked it is about rumour (woman's snake like tongue going through another's ears).... AND rightly so... because "rumour" emerges as the theme in ep 2 regarding involvement of police with the bar
ONTO EP 3
But i don't think we will get it before Nov-Dec (MGB took 4 months of shooting, so best case scenario 4 months of shooting, 1.5 months of post prod work, finding slot and airing - Nov)