Earlier i used to hate the word CHEMISTRY,now one word is added to the list'Realism'. You can never question any drama from realistic pov,because in reality so many things are happening that justification is always there. In reality-nothing lasts forever. In reality-also people marry their first love, If we put the character of hee do and byj in real life scenario,this type of persons atleast try to maintain ldr, successful or unsuccessful is another part.This is the part where in my view the character and action dont match. If this is being justified being realism,then logic word should be removed.
I’m sorry, I really don’t agree with people saying “the ending is great because it is realistic”. I actually don’t think it’s realistic , because in real life, your first love is not as beautiful as the one portrayed here, and you break up because you fall out of love, or they fall out of love from you, someone turns out to be an a-hole, someone cheats, etc. Plus you usually move on ok from your first love. That would have been a realistic ending.
Viewers have a right to voice their opinions about the series and adjust the score accordingly. You can't be mad at viewers who wanted a happy ending for the main couple. Personally I am not a fan of gut wrenching endings whether it's a lot of death, or tragic love ending. Of course it's realistic, but when you pick up a book, or watch a drama, if it's not an autobiography, then you want to immerse yourself in a fantasy. That's why Cinderella stories are so popular, because more than likely it won't happened in your lifetime, but being able to live vicariously through the characters of a story is satisfaction within itself. These sorts of ending evoke an overwhelming emotional reaction, and not in a good way. Youth of May and Mr. Sunshine are example of other beautiful written stories, and as a viewer who connects with the characters there is a post grieving process. Finally, there are people in dark spaces, suicidal, healing, and grieving who watch these shows for comfort, and these sort of endings can trigger meltdowns and God only knows what else. The purpose of this form of art is for entertainment (enjoyment) purposes. I don't mind a sad ending here and there, but every good quality drama seems to head into that direction and that's troubling.
I think ending was just and realistic unlike other k dramas After some time now I sought to agree with it .....life…
That's exactly the problem here... they haven't moved on.. even after 15 years of marriage and a divorce, FL still loves ML... Same is true for the ML... If they had really moved on.. ML wouldn't have avoided FL at the funeral. He went late deliberately so that he can avoid running into FL.. Similarly, the interview scene post FL's marriage, also shows that they still care a lot about each other.. more than what you care for friends...
I can agree that the breakup can happen... and if they did decide to breakup.. its ok as well...atleast give a proper closure to the relationship.. the ending is an absolute mess... they tried to keep the viewers who like happy ending satisfied... that's why they showed FL is divorced in a single line of their discussion and they showed that they still love each other.. this is what most people are hating... that the closure was not made properly..
I hope people would understand that the reason why people are mad/disappointed with ending is not because baekdo didn’t end up together (it was hinted in the first ep bc of Minchae’s surname) we are disappointed bc the writer rushed everything and made things sloppy. Some scenes in ep 15 and 16 are kinda ooc for Baekdo the breakup was somehow forced and so many questions left unanswered (and no i’m not pertaining to Minchae’s father idc much about him anyways) like why did heedo named her shop 2521 how come that pic of heedo that yijin has ended up with heedo’s photo album? Also don’t even start with the diary thing like for me i just don’t get why did the diary got returned to heedo decades later when she could easily get it back in 2002 🫠 I know some people liked the ending to each their own I guess but I hope some people would try to understand why a lot of viewers are feeling disappointed and confused with the ending we also watch this drama we waited til weekends for a new ep we made theories too about this we also were so into this drama deeply lol
I'm late to the party on this one. Only watched up to Episode 12.
...but knowing how this ends and the controversy surrounding the ending makes me not want to finish this. To me, the issue isn't whether or not it was a happy ending, but the execution of it. These front few episodes have been so masterfully done: little details that come back in future episodes to mean something, an OST that invokes the right mood of the 90s, keeping us at the edge of your seat with a compelling mystery, etc.
But the ending doesn't seem to care. That mystery? It was apparently an accident: who the dad is/what happened to the him in the present? Irrelevant I guess, as this was "always about Baek Yi Jin and Na Hee Do's fleeting first love." Then why keep viewers hooked by teasing this "will-they-wont-they" end up together? I honestly feel insulted, as if they manipulated viewer emotions just to keep up a high rating
Character consistency? Also irrelevant. I get it: the plot wants to be about a first love that didn't work out due to realistic reasons. That's allowed. But then, how "realistic" is it that the characters don't naturally develop towards the ending? Your female lead is someone that NEVER COMPROMISES. That's baked into her DNA/backstory. She never gave up with fencing, etc. But you're telling me that her grand first love didn't work out partly because life was leading their long distance relationship to grow apart (allowed)....but then she turned around and ended up in basically a long distance relationship with her HUSBAND. Really? (And this goes back to my issue with manipulation above: we have to ASSUME he's a devoted/not devoted husband because we are intentionally not shown him. 'Cause in the 2020s, clearly video chat exists etc. But he "can't come back so he has to quarantine from COVID." I guess). Then you have a male lead: loyalty to his family and friends is baked into his DNA. Everything he did as a young man was in the name of clearing his family of guilt and bringing them together. Remember the scene when he pays back one of his dad's ex employees with his meager salary? But as an adult...oh actually my job is my main priority as I live overseas. This Na Hee Do girl? She's just another love of mine I guess.
It's about the hand not fitting the glove. I personally think that any stories that need to be "explained away" by non-canon theories are bad stories. And that's what I think this one is. "We don't know what Na Hee Do's relationship with her husband is." Yes, you are absolutely right. We don't. Therefore, isn't something like that worth spending a few minutes to explain in the last episode?
Ug, for a show as carefully crafted as this one, it's highly frustrating to me that they didn't seem to stick the ending.
Everyone seems to be thinking that the fact that her daughters surname is Kim means that she is not the ML's daughter and therefore we will not have a happy ending. Absolutely not, im very hopeful abt this one. The kid must not be the ML's daughter obviously but i dont think that fact stops us from having a happy ending. I think she will be the reason of their reunion. They have lost touch but the daughter reads about their story in the diary and wants to get them to meet again. We havent heard about a dad anyway and HD wasnt wearing a ring as far as i can remember.
a user named Minoli Palihena wrote this statement and i think its a very reasonable comment:
"Take my thoughts as however you may deem but from what I've read so far, both parties are suffering now due to blatant negligence.
Girl didn't think of the consequences she probably might have to face if she were to believe mere words of a man who has apparently wanted her to abort their child to save his career under the promise of marriage. Obviously when you trust and love your partner there is no occasion to doubt their words. But given the industry he was in she sort of could've prepared for any kind of backfire. Which eventually happened. He left her. Her first red flag would've been him asking to abort a baby in promise of marriage. If you're a decent person take responsibility and face the trials. But both weren't prepared for a baby. And he was at a peak of his career. This is the Korean entertainment industry we're talking about, there is no separation between public and private lives. Fans pretty much control everything.
He could've handled this way better. If he was a caring boyfriend he literally could've ended things more peacefully saving all of this mess. As I said this is Korea so not anyone's first rodeo when it comes to deadly scandals and speculations! He should've known the repercussions if he did what he did. It's a common thing in this industry that your past coming to bite you in the back. And It Did. This wasn't even that long ago. If you wanted to put your career over everything could've just broken up and made it an amicable parting. He neglected the fact that she had the capability to literally destroy his career. Given he's guilty according to his apology, he could've been decent enough to have done it before to her privately and save all of this emotional and physical distress he's putting everyone through.
In her POV she chose to out him at his peak, honestly if you're a beat up ex and did not get the outcome you expected from that relationship i.e. broken promises, emotional and physical distress,,obviously there's a lot of pent up anger and betrayal inside. So what's the best time to expose your celebrity boyfriend if not the time he's most famous. She prolly did it in a whim, maybe she's also regretting all the shit she's going through at the moment. It's not easy coming out with news like that especially about a famous person unless you're prepared for it. Imagine the amount of hate she's getting from his fans?! But given she's also from the same industry I dunno why she didn't think of handling this a tad bit better.
In his POV. He should've seen this coming. Gaslighting a girlfriend at your peak especially with that much of baggage left behind, he literally dug his own grave. If she's also from the same industry if she also knows her way inside, he must've been super confident about his decision. But still overestimating your image is what lead to this mess I guess. But he knows how this industry works I dunno why he thought he can have his way through.
One of the things I dislike the most of especially of the Asian entertainment industry is their private lives are never private. If someone marries, cheats, have a baby, date, come out, gains a bit of weight, be intimate, have sex, take drugs, swear, drop honorifics, mentions a brand name they aren't endorsing regardless the fact it's good or bad or have no meaning whatsoever it can go as far as to ruining careers, lives, leaving damages which become hard to recover from. This is why I only watch or listen to whatever their work is and never become a hardcore fan. I will admire the work, give praise where it's due and call it a day.
This is toxic and these fans and delulus scare me. We're human for a reason none of us are perfect. I badmouth about people from work too but that's just complaining to release stress, doesn't meant I hate them. But I know when you're famous your every move holds accountability and you come in to the industry knowing that, especially if you're in the Korean entertainment industry. Western ent. industry and their fans have accustomed to work around these matters and in a way though it might entirely not be correct at least the unnecessary speculations and drama are saved. People will only take note on the official work and let the celebs deal with their own lives. After all tho how famous they are they too are human just like us.
Hope both the actor and the girl take their time to heal and recover. Too bad he won't be able to make a comeback in the foreseeable future. At least hope he has learnt a lesson from this. And the girl should be more careful with relationships from now on, maybe think about herself and her wellbeing before putting her faith in to someone else. We should be prepared for any out come. Life is uncertain after all.
Also as the public we can't give judgements to anyone, let the people with authority do it. Yes we can voice our opinions but let's not be harsh or put hate on anyone. After all what is seen on public is not always the same as what's actually going on. We are seeing only what is made to be seen. It's carefully selected and filtered before coming before our eyes and ears. Best is to let them handle it and just hope that everyone get the Justice they deserve."
You can never question any drama from realistic pov,because in reality so many things are happening that justification is always there.
In reality-nothing lasts forever.
In reality-also people marry their first love,
If we put the character of hee do and byj in real life scenario,this type of persons atleast try to maintain ldr, successful or unsuccessful is another part.This is the part where in my view the character and action dont match.
If this is being justified being realism,then logic word should be removed.
I can agree that the breakup can happen... and if they did decide to breakup.. its ok as well...atleast give a proper closure to the relationship.. the ending is an absolute mess... they tried to keep the viewers who like happy ending satisfied... that's why they showed FL is divorced in a single line of their discussion and they showed that they still love each other.. this is what most people are hating... that the closure was not made properly..
...but knowing how this ends and the controversy surrounding the ending makes me not want to finish this. To me, the issue isn't whether or not it was a happy ending, but the execution of it. These front few episodes have been so masterfully done: little details that come back in future episodes to mean something, an OST that invokes the right mood of the 90s, keeping us at the edge of your seat with a compelling mystery, etc.
But the ending doesn't seem to care. That mystery? It was apparently an accident: who the dad is/what happened to the him in the present? Irrelevant I guess, as this was "always about Baek Yi Jin and Na Hee Do's fleeting first love." Then why keep viewers hooked by teasing this "will-they-wont-they" end up together? I honestly feel insulted, as if they manipulated viewer emotions just to keep up a high rating
Character consistency? Also irrelevant. I get it: the plot wants to be about a first love that didn't work out due to realistic reasons. That's allowed. But then, how "realistic" is it that the characters don't naturally develop towards the ending? Your female lead is someone that NEVER COMPROMISES. That's baked into her DNA/backstory. She never gave up with fencing, etc. But you're telling me that her grand first love didn't work out partly because life was leading their long distance relationship to grow apart (allowed)....but then she turned around and ended up in basically a long distance relationship with her HUSBAND. Really? (And this goes back to my issue with manipulation above: we have to ASSUME he's a devoted/not devoted husband because we are intentionally not shown him. 'Cause in the 2020s, clearly video chat exists etc. But he "can't come back so he has to quarantine from COVID." I guess). Then you have a male lead: loyalty to his family and friends is baked into his DNA. Everything he did as a young man was in the name of clearing his family of guilt and bringing them together. Remember the scene when he pays back one of his dad's ex employees with his meager salary? But as an adult...oh actually my job is my main priority as I live overseas. This Na Hee Do girl? She's just another love of mine I guess.
It's about the hand not fitting the glove. I personally think that any stories that need to be "explained away" by non-canon theories are bad stories. And that's what I think this one is. "We don't know what Na Hee Do's relationship with her husband is." Yes, you are absolutely right. We don't. Therefore, isn't something like that worth spending a few minutes to explain in the last episode?
Ug, for a show as carefully crafted as this one, it's highly frustrating to me that they didn't seem to stick the ending.
"Take my thoughts as however you may deem but from what I've read so far, both parties are suffering now due to blatant negligence.
Girl didn't think of the consequences she probably might have to face if she were to believe mere words of a man who has apparently wanted her to abort their child to save his career under the promise of marriage. Obviously when you trust and love your partner there is no occasion to doubt their words. But given the industry he was in she sort of could've prepared for any kind of backfire. Which eventually happened. He left her. Her first red flag would've been him asking to abort a baby in promise of marriage. If you're a decent person take responsibility and face the trials. But both weren't prepared for a baby. And he was at a peak of his career. This is the Korean entertainment industry we're talking about, there is no separation between public and private lives. Fans pretty much control everything.
He could've handled this way better. If he was a caring boyfriend he literally could've ended things more peacefully saving all of this mess. As I said this is Korea so not anyone's first rodeo when it comes to deadly scandals and speculations! He should've known the repercussions if he did what he did. It's a common thing in this industry that your past coming to bite you in the back. And It Did. This wasn't even that long ago. If you wanted to put your career over everything could've just broken up and made it an amicable parting. He neglected the fact that she had the capability to literally destroy his career.
Given he's guilty according to his apology, he could've been decent enough to have done it before to her privately and save all of this emotional and physical distress he's putting everyone through.
In her POV she chose to out him at his peak, honestly if you're a beat up ex and did not get the outcome you expected from that relationship i.e. broken promises, emotional and physical distress,,obviously there's a lot of pent up anger and betrayal inside. So what's the best time to expose your celebrity boyfriend if not the time he's most famous. She prolly did it in a whim, maybe she's also regretting all the shit she's going through at the moment. It's not easy coming out with news like that especially about a famous person unless you're prepared for it. Imagine the amount of hate she's getting from his fans?! But given she's also from the same industry I dunno why she didn't think of handling this a tad bit better.
In his POV. He should've seen this coming. Gaslighting a girlfriend at your peak especially with that much of baggage left behind, he literally dug his own grave. If she's also from the same industry if she also knows her way inside, he must've been super confident about his decision. But still overestimating your image is what lead to this mess I guess. But he knows how this industry works I dunno why he thought he can have his way through.
One of the things I dislike the most of especially of the Asian entertainment industry is their private lives are never private. If someone marries, cheats, have a baby, date, come out, gains a bit of weight, be intimate, have sex, take drugs, swear, drop honorifics, mentions a brand name they aren't endorsing regardless the fact it's good or bad or have no meaning whatsoever it can go as far as to ruining careers, lives, leaving damages which become hard to recover from. This is why I only watch or listen to whatever their work is and never become a hardcore fan. I will admire the work, give praise where it's due and call it a day.
This is toxic and these fans and delulus scare me. We're human for a reason none of us are perfect. I badmouth about people from work too but that's just complaining to release stress, doesn't meant I hate them. But I know when you're famous your every move holds accountability and you come in to the industry knowing that, especially if you're in the Korean entertainment industry. Western ent. industry and their fans have accustomed to work around these matters and in a way though it might entirely not be correct at least the unnecessary speculations and drama are saved. People will only take note on the official work and let the celebs deal with their own lives. After all tho how famous they are they too are human just like us.
Hope both the actor and the girl take their time to heal and recover. Too bad he won't be able to make a comeback in the foreseeable future. At least hope he has learnt a lesson from this. And the girl should be more careful with relationships from now on, maybe think about herself and her wellbeing before putting her faith in to someone else. We should be prepared for any out come. Life is uncertain after all.
Also as the public we can't give judgements to anyone, let the people with authority do it. Yes we can voice our opinions but let's not be harsh or put hate on anyone. After all what is seen on public is not always the same as what's actually going on. We are seeing only what is made to be seen. It's carefully selected and filtered before coming before our eyes and ears. Best is to let them handle it and just hope that everyone get the Justice they deserve."