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The late actor Lee Sun-kyun can absolutely be used as an example in this case. His case as you know involved him being accused of drugs and going to a brothel. Though both cases are different -yet the backlash both experienced are the same. The pull from advertisements, compensation fees due to the scandal and even the immense cyberbullying. The outcome was the same in terms of the backlash- yet they had different scandals

Your thought process tells me that you believe that the late Lee Sun-kyun case was tragic as we all know though he was later confirmed to be innocent of the drug accusation yet the case for KSH is different because he is accused of a delicate issue being the alleged sexual and predatory exploitation of KSR when she was a minor.
Remember this that -despite your belief in him being guilty - he has not been confirmed to be through the official police investigations being carried out. Your presumption of him is that he is guilty before he is even proven to be guilty. This is all I am getting from what you are saying.

On my side what I am saying is that the family has cause to make a false accusation for various reasons I will not spend time retelling and that the man might be a victim of false accusation which is the same thing that happened to the late actor Lee Sun-kyun. He was accused - investigated but the public felt that he was guilty and due to this - he made a terrible decision.

What caused this? Public backlash and cancellation. The same thing happening to KSH.

This is my last thought as we can't keep going back and forth.:
You believe he is guilty- ok.
I believe that he is a victim of false accusation- ok
The ongoing investigation will tell us who is lying and who is telling the truth. However I will repeat that the only reason I stand firmly against what people are doing in this comment section is because of the name-calling and vile words spoken against KSH. These things are detrimental and harmful to all in society regardless of whether you think he is guilty or innocent.

Wrong again. Your reasoning is all speculative.

That is okay. You are free to support whoever you want.

I personally can also never live with myself to know that someone's life's work and years of toil have been wasted away and ruined beyond repair by the possibility of false accusations and rumors.

Ive watched this happen to late actor Lee Sun-kyun who was later found innocent and late actor Song Young kyu who died due to the backlash from his DUI. These were all self-inflicted and could have been prevented if the situation was different but the same happened with KSR.
She faced immense cyberbulling that did not allow her to have an opportunity to work again.
So yeah, I understand why you support and won't claim otherwise.

You know there were alot of things happening in KSR's life that made her so pitiful and I understand why people choose to believe KSH is guilty because there needs to be someone that must be held accountable for what happened to her.She suffered terribly at the hands of the very people that were supposed to protect her.

He called himself a coward due to being afraid of how the rumors of his relationship with KSR would affect QOT which he was currently filming and he decided to deny the allegations and you can absolutely check GM's statement. which states that KSH was currently not dating KSR.

When the rumors exploded-he explained his stance through his press conference. You and I both know that Korean actors deny dating rumors until they can't anymore. Why should KSH be crucified for something like that?

Thank you for this question. This is where the courts come in. After a thorough investigation -the police/judges investigating this scandal will tell us who is lying.... Something I've been saying this whole time.
In my own capacity I've chosen to believe that KSH is telling the truth and you can decide to choose to believe whatever you want as well but something that is absolutely UNFAIR and very wrong to do is to call this man names such as 'pedophile ', 'groomer ', 'murderer' and even go as far calling him a 'rapist' . That is wicked, harsh and defamatory. That is my problem.

Let the investigation results confirm if this man is guilty or innocent.

I didn't know this....Wow😆

I was thinking the same thing because isn't such information illegal to expose of a person if you are not law enforcement?

They are literally and figuratively killing these celebrities. That's S.korea for you. Just a rumor and your career is over.

Wrong, GM initially denied the dating rumors being that they were currently not dating as at that time- and it was true that they were not dating at that time. The solid proof you speak of is false.

Hi there ,
Firstly I want to thank you for your response. You have given your opinion respectfully which I admire.

Also thank you for explaining the situation regarding the mole as I was not aware of it as there's just too much going on with this case. Everyday-there's something new.

The mole is not enough evidence that KSH dated KSR when she was a 'minor' -if you are going to use the mole as a plausible excuse for their dating time period. I say this because;
1. As you mentioned- maybe the mole was regrown - mole removals are not permanent even if you undergo laser removable therapy. Therefore, we don't know as there are no confirmations to this claim.
2. The period of him having or not having his mole does not confirm the period KSH's and KSR's dating period. We need to know what date those pictures were taken and GM confirmed that these pictures specifically the cheek-on-cheek picture were during the period 2019-2020. This is also something that is to be confirmed with metadata to proof GM's claim hence the investigation that is currently happening.
3. Photos also constantly get edited and modified and people also use filters .I am not saying that this is the case for KSH and KSR but that it is a possibility and that possibility leads to where we get people making assumptions instead of finding the facts to the situation.

So I agree with you that due to the intensity and scrutiny of the scandal that there should be an answer to everything and it should be investigated but the mole argument is too weak because it is once again-speculative. By speculative - I mean -one side says that this could have happen that's why its like this and the opposing side says that this could have happened that's why its like this resulting in no definitive conclusion.

With regards to the grooming allegations - because KSR was a child actress that was heavily monitored by the public eye and KSH being the famous celebrity that he was back then all the way from the days of 'Dream High'. I do not believe that there was any way of KSH grooming KSR without the knowledge of the adults around her. A groomer is someone by definition who builds a deceptive relationship to exploit the victim for either sexual, financial or other forms of exploitations and they ensure that the victim is threatened/manipulated by them which keeps the victim in being silent and isolated from their loved-ones. So with that in mind - where did KSH find the time to do all of this and where was KSR's mother when this was happening? This is a very important question.

Lastly- yes there was a maturity and large age-gap of 12 years but that doesn't prove the 'minor' dating allegations being that he abused her and took advantage of her, That is your assumption based on their age-difference and it will be an opinion until there is irrefutable proof of KSH abusing KSR.

I am constantly saying irrefutable proof because this accusation is SERIOUS and if KSH is innocent (which I believe) -then that means he has been lied against and his career with all that he has built has been ruined by LIES.

Therefore, we can't use the 'mole', the pictures they used as those taken in 2016 was confirmed to be taken in 2019 so we can't use their pictures. We can't use their text messages because that's also currently being investigated and even the very metadata presented is questionable because what report gets released on an excel sheet? We can't use the audio recording as it is AI. We can't even trust the time period they speak of as they keep on changing their minds on dates when this relationship occurred. They have no consistent story and that stems from a lie.

So how can you trust that they are telling the truth?

Just an observation I've had on this comment section....The only reason you can't argue with 'them' is because ya'll are fixated on the false claims and are hiding under the word 'pedo' with no factual backing but emotions. Maybe that's why you are unable to argue with 'them'...

Absolutely agree. They were all crazy even Jae oh....🫠

I actually liked the ending as it solidified the stance that everyone including Jun Seo was just PLAIN crazy.... That last scene when Jun Seo told Ajin that he loved her sent chills down my back....Because i was thinking there's no way he's going to do what I think he was going to do and HE DID THAT 😲..... I'm now thinking - who do I blame...

In usual dramas we have our obvious protagonist and antagonist so we get to root for the main lead and completely hate the villian but there was nothing like that in this drama. EVERY single character BE CRAZY 😆 and they twist scenarios to meet their desires.

So please keep that in mind. Honestly human beings are inherently selfish- as every character had an AGENDA even Jae Oh....

Kim Yoo Jung was WOW..She slayed this role and deserves a Baeksang..🙌🏽🙌🏽
Dear X was a good thrilling and thought provoking drama.Loved it 🤗

🤣🤣🤣.... Girl, not me fighting in that comment section🤭.... I've been called a gaslighter and pedo-defender for stating obvious truths BUT the truth shall prevail. My only motive is to correct the narrative. They are so emotionally charged-its crazy😬...

Thank you for this question my dear.
That family has given us so many different dates that is is so hard to keep up. They are not consistent with their accusations.

1. She started dating him when was 15 years old
2. They later gave evidence of the chats from June 2016 when she was 16 years old. That this is also when she started dating him
3. She was 17 years old when they were supposed to meet up from his military leave. They also exchanged letters during this time and this is also when she started dating him.
4. They released the fake AI audio-recording in which KSR says that she started dating KSH when she was actually 13 years old and they had already had sexual relations.
5. The recent unsent letter in the memo was citied to be when she was 15 years old and showing proof that they were dating.

So what is the truth? This is the problem I have Yet the accused has consistently stated and has provided his 'proof'' of their dating period being 2019-2020. That is my problem with the family. If you claim something- stick to it -don't give me variations and stories. That is the problem I have. But because KSH is accused - KSR is dead and the bereaved family has accused him - KSH is now STAMPED as GUILTY.

I honestly didn't understand what you were trying to say so I've compartmentalized your thoughts and statements to answer each one accurately.

1. what about the photo? the one of him kissing her where he has a mole on his face that was removed before she became an adult?
Answer: The photo has been confirmed as from the period they were dating being 2019-2020. As for the mole- that is something I am not properly aware of and have no answer to. I did a little research and saw on a lot of discussion forums-some people say he had his mole removed in 2014 - while others claim that his mole was surgically removed after his military service which was in the year 2019. If you can explain to me what the mole has to do with his supposed inappropriate relationship with KSR - I'm willing to listen.

2. what of her own personal claims that she made before she died while pleading with him for help with her debt?
Answer: I have already given an answer to this and I'll gladly repeat that the only plead that KSR made to KSH -was of one promising to pay back her debt - and he decided not to respond as that situation had nothing to do with him. KSR was speaking with GM. KSH holds no POWER in the decisions that are being taken at GM because HE is an ACTOR. Yes -he was a CO-founder but GM repeatedly stated that KSH holds no management RIGHTS in GM. So why should he be helping someone who is supposed to be speaking to GM? Let me ask you this question - if your boyfriend/girlfriend of 5 years ago comes and asks you to loan them a large sum of money -would you do that? MAYBE you would- yet this is something that is AT your DISCRETION. Does it proof that YOU are a terrible human Being? No!

3. what about the fact that he admitted to their relationship but conveniently only to the dates when she was an adult? what about the claims of the people who knew her?
Answer: No one except KSR's family, Garosero and KSR's family's lawyer have spoken to confirm to the status of the alleged 'MINOR 'relationship that KSH supposedly had with KSR. Also KSH has denied the claims consistently stating that he never dated her when was younger.... So you want him to admit to something he claims he didn't do..... Got it.

4. i don't understand your argument here. you are not believing innocent until proven guilty. if your only argument is he hasn't been prosecuted for it then i guess almost no sexual crimes are real. also the date of her death you just said was speculative on your end which means you WANT to believe she didn't die on his birthday which is your own personal assumption friend.
Answer: I am using the premise of innocent until proven guilty - because I have analyzed the accusations made against him myself. I have looked at the family's evidence and I have looked at KSH's presented evidence and I have CHOSEN to believe that he is innocent based on my evaluation. If you think differently- then OK.... you have the freedom to do so BUT my ONLY problem stems from people calling HIM names such as 'PEDOPHILE' and 'GROOMER' when he has not been confirmed as one and I was ALWAYS speak out AGAINST that....

5. it's not reality. most death announcements take place on the date the body was found. but there was nothing that suggested she had been dead for several days when they found her? where does that assumption even come from? that's your own personal desires not the truth of the situation.
ANSWER: Look believe whatever you want.... I have stated my stance and will stick by it and will provide reasons for it -which I did. If you disagree -then OK but it does not omit the gap of the matter for speculation -BEING that the reason you people are saying she died on KSH's birthday is because of KSH - this right here is speculative and not true and that is why I have stated my speculation being their is no autopsy confirming her time of death. There was only an announcement for her death. She could've only been discovered 3 days after and might have been dead a long time ago( I am not saying that this is what happened cause y'all love to twist my words) but rather that there is speculative reasoning behind faulting KSH. Therefore this speculation holding KSH responsible holds no value.

In conclusion- your statements are NOT driven on wanting to know the truth of what happened to KSR but on putting the blame on KSH because YOU believe that HE is guilty- I don't believe that and I have consistently given reasons as to why. You have given your OWN opinions which you are allowed to have and I have stated MY own opinion which I am allowed to have. Is that a crime? No

I will once again state that there is no irrefutable proof given by that family that confirms KSH's guilt. There's no letter, no photo, no video, no forensically verified text messages and not even a CCTV camera footage that proves that this man was doing something inappropriate with KSR. All have been distorted and manipulated to meet a narrative and I will stand on this till there is something that proves me wrong. I will also continue stating this information to everyone BECAUSE the hate is LOUD....

I forgot to mention that I actually initially believed KSH was guilty but as things unfolded I realised that this was a witch-hunt.

So I have never blamed anyone in this comment section but I have respectfully told everyone to be sensitive to the situation but yall are too up in your feelings to see that.

I also want to say that I WILL NEVER support a true confirmed perpetrator GUILTY of abusing children. I firmly stand AGAINST that. I say this becaue you people like to throw around the word 'pedo-defender' like it some loose change...

Look Im not even going to get angry at your points because its so blissfully ignorant to all the things Ive been saying that responses such as yours are basically laugable at this point.

1. You are right in saying that there has been evidence from the family - however based on where we are right now. Their countless evidences presented has been disproven and confirmed to be false. You don't need a police investigation to see a lie but I guess for those who are doubting- the police investigation as well as conclusion from the courts will be enough for them to either support or curse KSH. That is a personal choice. Based on my personal choice - I've decided to believe in innocent until proven guilty as evidence presented by KSR's is fake and manipulated.

2. With a case as SERIOUS as pedophilia, the devil is definitely in the details. I am not grasping at straws nor have I made unfounded assumptions but evaluated everything presented under the guise of understanding the laws and using common sense given to me.

3. I never mentioned the government faking the time of death of KSR but simply stated that there is no official autopsy citing her death. Therefore, it is speculative to assume that she died on KSH- when she could have died 2 days before and ir might have only been announced on KSH's birthday. - that is the main thing yall love to spin.... Is that a bad statement to make? No ! because we are all making assumptions at this point and there is no significant proof of these assumptions. So this story you all love to spin of the heartbroken girlfriend doesn't make sense when the girl was a whole wife to another man....

4. KSH has his faults which he should take responsibility for but the fact that you all are pinning KSR's death on him is my problem The fact that you all call him defamatory names.such as pedophile and groomer is my problem as He has not been confirmed to be guilty as such.....So yes I will defend until he is proven to be guilty - then ill gladly retract my statement but for now - it is innocent until proven guilty.

5. How are my statements gaslighting the comment section by stating to people the exact events of this scandal? In the same way you have the right to accuse him -I have chosen to been the one to defend him. Let people decide what they want to post and who they want to defend. I haven't slandered nor spoken ill of anyone yet I received the most push back because I dont follw the sentiments of this comment section.

6. My darling there are holes in the story ..... There are TOO many gaps that have been said , things that have been changed YET you have still chosen to believe KSR's family. That's okay- you have freewill to believe whatever you want and so do I- so I will constantly question and ask and probe and suggest as there MUST be an answer for every accusation. Also do you know what false accusations does to a person? Peope have died due to this and have had their lives ruined by this and you telling me not to look for holes and JUST believe what I'm told.... No I wont do hat because it is NOT fair to the accused and to the accusers.

I get it. - you feel sorry for KSR and I feel sorry for her as well. She was one of my most beloved actresses and I loved her acting on screen so I do want the truth BUT it is now well-known that she was cyberbullied, she was financially abused by her family and that KSH had dated KSR with proven dates being 2019-2020. Therefore, she was not a minor under the age of 18 but a full fledged adult able to make and know her right from wrong..... If their age-gap relationship is a problem. That is something you have the right to dislike - but it disproves the point of him being a groomer/pedophile which is what you guys are all looking to label him as....

So yes, just as your friends are loud in this comment section. I too will be loud because the ACCUSATIONS against him are false. That family are yet to present us with IRREFUTABLE evidence. If you want to believe them - then go ahead. No one is stopping you.....

Thank you for this explanation, i honestly didn't know that. I thought the investigation results would conclude the case. Okay. Thank you 👊🏽