Sigh...so i see Mu Chuan still acts like some side chick :P And i really don't know, if he's being alive, is because he's so cunning, and act so passive, or he really don't care about court stuff. I mean, to some extend i understand him, it is what it is. Still...i have impression, that because nobody has his back, chances he will become now Emperor are very slim. His brother simple must die at this point lol :P Also it's really sad that An Ran, didn't told him, even crypticaly, that he was set up to fail, by his brother. Because if she saw earlier, that Mu Ze was puting something there..
I mean, aish, such a small details, would make a big changes and chances for the story, to go different route. But FL doesn't even trying. It's fine, she's tryng to save herself first, but like i mention it before - she still forgots, about other people/circustatements. Also the Queen - - dear lord, she's dumb. Simple dumb. Not emotional, and jelly jelly, she is simple dumb dumb :P she made An Ran suffer so many times, Emperor clocked her for that, and manipulate to do dirty work for him, and she still try to use An Ran's "cheating" card. Like, gurl, he's very well aware what's going on, why don't you see it :P She's playing mind games, with wrong person.
And as much i hate Mu Ze - he was right in on thing. Queen was trying to play like a chess his two fav people :P it's a big no no, only he can orchestrate this telenovela :P She should know her place, a long time ago lol. Also An Ran is really testing waters in a very bad way. And it was obv, that Mu Ze will test their loyality. Also welp, it's at this point simple funny that some random maid must explain to ML (?) the whole plan. Stupid people everywhere :P
i was wondering about that too! I deduced Yuan Wu's #301 is in a neighbouring block and not in the same block!!!
I mean, maybe it was some bogus or they want to throw us, to some thinking spiral. Or we see the building wrongly :P So what we know - looking at the Yuan's house - we have 2 flat in one floor. So some ..infos :P (and to be clear, i don't debunk your theory about 2 buildings completly, i rather think, the second one, if it's true, would be only to throw us out, and doesn't have any other role in the story :P)
- snooping marriage live under Yuan's flat. Because they hear their (supposedly) quarrels all the time . Right side of the building - Xu En Huai lives for sure 1 floor down on the left side , which i confirm later :P - in episode 1, if you look at the door number , where Yuan Wu is snooping, we have number 301 ("New Year Doors let's call it :P) and brother of Chu Ping confirms, by phone, it's Yuan's house - In first episode , we have little cut scene of 401, after Mo , is out from the house to school - When Yuang Yan goes with the trash from upper floor, he stand on No 401 . But what is interesting in that if you watch closely, we have two scenes on 401 doors, like...Yuang Yan or did back up twice to the same doors or indeed those are two different buildings. But it seems, the door look the same. (Also ep 1) -En Huai No 302 but it's on the left side one floor down. So i assume, the number goes somehow diagonally?? (Ep.1) and confirm second paragraph - Snooping Pair confirmed, they live across the En Huai's , under Yuan's house So if they snooping, and saw Mo hidding in someones flat, it could be only En Huai's . Also after new episode, we know he had his own key..which he took from the girl, or she gave it to him? - 502 - guy they wake up + old lady -And here is confusing part - because when the old lady catch the other lady on the stairs, she ask about the boy from 401 @_@ and father doesn't correct her. So, mistake? (Still episode 1) -Ms. Meng live across the 502 , not revelant to the story :P And we have another lady i think floor down, also doesn't change anything - Remember when En Huai first opens the door to her house (Ep.2). She seems to be very hesitant. Also we know, that day, someone steal/she lost her keys...Mo?
So imo No 401 and our little lady, are the key.
And here is the trick - i used word complex, not building. Because imo even looking at the roof in Yuan's building i think , it was same area. But i was wrong, and now re-watched episodes :) So you were right :)
(Ep.2)
- Yuan Wu opens door number 301 :) So indeed it seems that part of story taking place in other complex :) Especially that in episode 2 we see clearly it's another building. But the trick is, that it's technically more his father flat and it seems that Chu Ping is the flat owner/house owner, whatever :P We even see 301 twice.
- Seem like Chu Ping lives in the same building as him / which she owns, or have a flat.
Still it seems, that both buildings are connected via people. But what bother me then, is why Chu Ping's brother went to Yuan's? They are not from the same area. The only connection would be Yuang Wu then.
Also random things, after re-watching - i wonder why Chu Ping x Yuan Wu, didn't ended up together :P gambling only and his stalkerish behaviour? - in episode when Yuan Wu buys the flowers, they make that long shot on his shoes, which look similar to the rapist shoes. It would be still too obv, but will see.
i was wondering about that too! I deduced Yuan Wu's #301 is in a neighbouring block and not in the same block!!!
I think if it will be similar building situation, it would explain a few things. But after new episode, it seems, it's not the case, and we are still in the same complex.
I'm still mad at FL. Even if it's some destiny crap, she need to endure, i have impression, she's doing wrong thing. Again - not saying anything, to anybody, and just hurting people, who could help, doesn't save the situation. Because imo, even if the meeting with Emperor, marrying him, giving birth to his child and then death of it yada yada....i think she would be able, to change some of it. And first of all Mu Chuan should be stronger. But not by breaking his heart, but some decent plan. Being cold-hearted, doesn't do a crap. It can make him even more desperate or broken.
Poor Maid :( Also it should be a big wake up call for FL. She's trying to save everybody, based on the past only. Think gurl more, for good sake :/ Also i really don't get why people like Mu Ze. He is on the throne, and he must make hard decisions. But he's just shitty person :P without compasion, and treating every kind of emotions , as an obstacle. Also FL saw so many times already, how shitty he is, and still..nothing. Marrying this guy, forced or not, is a death penalty. Period.
It;s really enrage me, how stupid FL is. I still think, she's able to change the fate, but not in a way, she thinks she should. Maybe some part of the story, simple must happend. But important is, what key moments, she must change.
Anyway maybe i should have some pity for Mu Ze, because he had also a hard life. Still, using it as a uno card, for every wrongdoing - meh. Also i'm not sure if he want simple some drama between his wife and concubine or he simple want to please both. Anyway, that medicine - so dramatic, but smart at the same time. But yeah, at the end, conclusion is the same. Death or unborn child + death of close one. Same crap. Anyway i would also broke this crap, like...what the Queen wants more? she had what she wanted at night, bye. I would also play dirrty in this case. Also i wonder, if Mu Ze, not only want antagonise concubine and queen, but playing both side, also somehow make them depend on him? and then throw away the more problematic, less useful?
And i know that whole thing with punishment was staged..but i wonder, if Mu Ze also punished servant , to play his role in it? Anyway i like courtyard mind games :P
And i also read the comment about accepting her fate via @Sirry Usly - but it doesn't make sens for me. Because, if she need only repeat some cycle, what was the point to even reborn in the first place? It seems, that at first time, she was also passive about everything. And she ended up miserable and was betrayed. So what would be the point to re-live it?
This video...such a creep :/ I know some things points him as a person who assaulted Chu Ping. But again i think it's just a smoke bomb. And yeah , about his explanation - even if his intentions were pure, and little love motivated, still..it's creepy, especially, that he didn't told her at the first place. I mean, he was to observant about her, and i would be also afraid, why someone from work, who i barely know, know so much about me. And way how he explained it at first, sounded like bogus. Still, i don't belive him completly. Everybody lies in this story.
Anyway this guy...such a smartass...almost to the point it's scary, but at the same time, Chu Ping, wasn't very smart either. So yeah. Good intentions overall, very poor execution on his part. Knowing how CP is paranoid now, he should be more careful. And also, imo it must be big for CP, because i think, it's the first time, when somebody cares truly about her.
Also the way how CP explained whole situation - is it possible, she was drugged, someone give her some sleeping pills or smth? And is it possible it was consensual , but she doesn't remember it? i mean...ugh. Anyway, all stories in the drama, are imo missing something big. They so one-sided, that i really don't know, what to think about some of the parts.
En Huai and her father - hmmmmmm i have some theory. Looking that Yang Yuan went to her parents meeting, i wonder if some part of him...maybe don't despise Momo, but he was dissapointed? The same is with mother. Is it possible, that the son, seeing that his parents, are more invested now in En Huai life, and she's better at everything than him...maybe he wanted to disappear? That his parents don't need him, because they have "new" golden child, with better grades etc. ? Also is it possible that Momo wanted to somehow "alarm" the school, that he need attention and feel neglected by parents?
Man in suit - Yuan Wu maybe? because En Huai would know it's her father for example. And that snooping neigbhor :P But he pointed something interesting by accident - it such a small building, where everybody are nosy...really nobody saw a kid? even with this whole door hidding...it's simple weird.
And the ending - soo the kid had his own key....that explains a lot....so..he pre-planned this all i suppose, but why?
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Yeah i agree with this approach, and it makes me frustrated, especially after new episodes. I mean, i get she has second chance to fix everything, but going to the lion den, and not saying anybody, what's her plan, and also counting on her luck and what she knows from prev encounter is little...not smart, to put it mildly.
I mean, she totally forgots, how sneaky MZ is. His promises, and words, are only a bunch of lies. He's also few steps ahead, so yeah. The way how FL belives, that she can with her approach, do something about him, is bogus.
And yes, it's sad, she doesn't say anybody about her plans. I get her twisted, i want to protect you vibe, but once it backfired, and alone, she wasn't able to do much. She needs people, to help her, period. And yeah, smu must start to think out of the box - she's now in the palace, she will not have great power, and she need some back up plan, just in case if Emporer will send her middle finger. Because all of this, are just words, that she must belive. And she must belive, he will keep his word. Also she forgots, that many people can despise her, because they will think she took their place. And that will make more enemies for her. Which, maybe doesn't have anything to do with her family, but just to crush her by jelly jelly or simple to demote her, and get her spot around MZ - they can be useful. I think she's very shortsighted, beliving, that only one obstacle, and managing it, will change her fate.
This drama is so weird. I'm not sure, is it because of weird cuting for whatever reason (censorship, wanting to fit the slot, whatever), but the point is...i really like fast paced titles, but even for me it's too fast lol XD It looks rushed to me, in a bad way. Also i think i excepted something else? From 3 episodes, i got some cringy comedy (?) . Anyway i will give it a second change. It's not the worst, what i have seen so far this year, but for sure, not something i would be invested in. So i will give a second chance, not hoping for much lol.
Dear lord. I must say i changed rating for the drama and made it lower. Few last episodes are just a clownery at finest. First of all - i don't know, but those chinese 3 min mobile dramas, has more chemistry than this. And it's simple sad. I don't see any progress between Ohm and Jetiya at all, and that's sad 2. I got almost always sad FL trapped in some crappy situation, ML who is a cardboard and main villian (?), who imo should me main from episode, god know which. I mean mains, barely looks like friends, not to mention potential romantic couple.
I mean , i was waiting for some nice suspense (even if we were aware of many plots far behind), steamy romance, some angst, and fierce leads. I got, in random order
1. FL which had some potential, but sometimes she's acting like some lunatic. I get that her aggresivnes , comes from very sad place, and much of hurt, still...Also, it's such a pity, she doesn't have anyone, who really care about her. Ohm seems to send her mixed signals, and makes her more hurt, than give her stability; her father acts like some Casanova and clock for everything, even if it wasn't her fault; Gun seems to be her only support system, but honestly...he has nice guy vibe, and type which will always stay in friendzone
2. Trashy father
3. Cardboard Ohm - i mean.....this guy wasn't very bright one. And also i get he give up, on many things for Mink, he was beliving he will maybe still end up with her, and their son, still...the way how he was sending mixed signals to FL, play with her, etc. is cruel. Fine, you get to jail, and lost family, at the same time, i had imperssion we have some pity party for him sometimes. He still was in the car, he still should pay his price, he still ..yada yada yada... He imo made everything even worse. He complicated, enough complicated as it is, Jet life, and give her imo nothing. No support, stability, even love.
4. Meena/Mink - GURRRRL... i mean, i agree this show, should change the poster. It was so frustrating. Also, it really rubs me wrong way, how everybody swiped under the rug, her wrongdoings. Like, she sold some sob story, but she did so many cruel things. Especially to Jetiya. And i really don't belive, that everything was orchestrate by Phak. She wasn't only his marionette, she truly wanted revenge. Also yeah, it seems, she has more screeentime, and more romance lo, than Jetiya, which is a joke. At this point, adding Jetiya as a main, is clownery 2 and imo misleading. Because it seems, alive or dead/with changed identity, she's more important than actual mains
5. Overall story, So much black and plot holes, that i can't even...
It was frustrating ride. I really was having high hopes for it, especially that i watched mains, in their prev dramas. I'm not sure, if the scenario is only problem. Or how the characters were written, but i feel very disappointed. Also imo, few last episodes, are so dragged. I think it should be shorter...dunno, 10 eps max?
I mean, aish, such a small details, would make a big changes and chances for the story, to go different route. But FL doesn't even trying. It's fine, she's tryng to save herself first, but like i mention it before - she still forgots, about other people/circustatements. Also the Queen - - dear lord, she's dumb. Simple dumb. Not emotional, and jelly jelly, she is simple dumb dumb :P she made An Ran suffer so many times, Emperor clocked her for that, and manipulate to do dirty work for him, and she still try to use An Ran's "cheating" card. Like, gurl, he's very well aware what's going on, why don't you see it :P She's playing mind games, with wrong person.
And as much i hate Mu Ze - he was right in on thing. Queen was trying to play like a chess his two fav people :P it's a big no no, only he can orchestrate this telenovela :P She should know her place, a long time ago lol. Also An Ran is really testing waters in a very bad way. And it was obv, that Mu Ze will test their loyality. Also welp, it's at this point simple funny that some random maid must explain to ML (?) the whole plan. Stupid people everywhere :P
- snooping marriage live under Yuan's flat. Because they hear their (supposedly) quarrels all the time . Right side of the building
- Xu En Huai lives for sure 1 floor down on the left side , which i confirm later :P
- in episode 1, if you look at the door number , where Yuan Wu is snooping, we have number 301 ("New Year Doors let's call it :P) and brother of Chu Ping confirms, by phone, it's Yuan's house
- In first episode , we have little cut scene of 401, after Mo , is out from the house to school
- When Yuang Yan goes with the trash from upper floor, he stand on No 401 . But what is interesting in that if you watch closely, we have two scenes on 401 doors, like...Yuang Yan or did back up twice to the same doors or indeed those are two different buildings. But it seems, the door look the same. (Also ep 1)
-En Huai No 302 but it's on the left side one floor down. So i assume, the number goes somehow diagonally?? (Ep.1) and confirm second paragraph
- Snooping Pair confirmed, they live across the En Huai's , under Yuan's house So if they snooping, and saw Mo hidding in someones flat, it could be only En Huai's . Also after new episode, we know he had his own key..which he took from the girl, or she gave it to him?
- 502 - guy they wake up + old lady
-And here is confusing part - because when the old lady catch the other lady on the stairs, she ask about the boy from 401 @_@ and father doesn't correct her. So, mistake? (Still episode 1)
-Ms. Meng live across the 502 , not revelant to the story :P And we have another lady i think floor down, also doesn't change anything
- Remember when En Huai first opens the door to her house (Ep.2). She seems to be very hesitant. Also we know, that day, someone steal/she lost her keys...Mo?
So imo No 401 and our little lady, are the key.
And here is the trick - i used word complex, not building. Because imo even looking at the roof in Yuan's building i think , it was same area. But i was wrong, and now re-watched episodes :) So you were right :)
(Ep.2)
- Yuan Wu opens door number 301 :) So indeed it seems that part of story taking place in other complex :) Especially that in episode 2 we see clearly it's another building. But the trick is, that it's technically more his father flat and it seems that Chu Ping is the flat owner/house owner, whatever :P We even see 301 twice.
- Seem like Chu Ping lives in the same building as him / which she owns, or have a flat.
Still it seems, that both buildings are connected via people. But what bother me then, is why Chu Ping's brother went to Yuan's? They are not from the same area. The only connection would be Yuang Wu then.
Also random things, after re-watching
- i wonder why Chu Ping x Yuan Wu, didn't ended up together :P gambling only and his stalkerish behaviour?
- in episode when Yuan Wu buys the flowers, they make that long shot on his shoes, which look similar to the rapist shoes. It would be still too obv, but will see.
Poor Maid :( Also it should be a big wake up call for FL. She's trying to save everybody, based on the past only. Think gurl more, for good sake :/ Also i really don't get why people like Mu Ze. He is on the throne, and he must make hard decisions. But he's just shitty person :P without compasion, and treating every kind of emotions , as an obstacle. Also FL saw so many times already, how shitty he is, and still..nothing. Marrying this guy, forced or not, is a death penalty. Period.
It;s really enrage me, how stupid FL is. I still think, she's able to change the fate, but not in a way, she thinks she should. Maybe some part of the story, simple must happend. But important is, what key moments, she must change.
Anyway maybe i should have some pity for Mu Ze, because he had also a hard life. Still, using it as a uno card, for every wrongdoing - meh. Also i'm not sure if he want simple some drama between his wife and concubine or he simple want to please both. Anyway, that medicine - so dramatic, but smart at the same time. But yeah, at the end, conclusion is the same. Death or unborn child + death of close one. Same crap. Anyway i would also broke this crap, like...what the Queen wants more? she had what she wanted at night, bye. I would also play dirrty in this case. Also i wonder, if Mu Ze, not only want antagonise concubine and queen, but playing both side, also somehow make them depend on him? and then throw away the more problematic, less useful?
And i know that whole thing with punishment was staged..but i wonder, if Mu Ze also punished servant , to play his role in it? Anyway i like courtyard mind games :P
And i also read the comment about accepting her fate via @Sirry Usly - but it doesn't make sens for me. Because, if she need only repeat some cycle, what was the point to even reborn in the first place? It seems, that at first time, she was also passive about everything. And she ended up miserable and was betrayed. So what would be the point to re-live it?
I know some things points him as a person who assaulted Chu Ping. But again i think it's just a smoke bomb. And yeah , about his explanation - even if his intentions were pure, and little love motivated, still..it's creepy, especially, that he didn't told her at the first place. I mean, he was to observant about her, and i would be also afraid, why someone from work, who i barely know, know so much about me. And way how he explained it at first, sounded like bogus. Still, i don't belive him completly. Everybody lies in this story.
Anyway this guy...such a smartass...almost to the point it's scary, but at the same time, Chu Ping, wasn't very smart either. So yeah. Good intentions overall, very poor execution on his part. Knowing how CP is paranoid now, he should be more careful. And also, imo it must be big for CP, because i think, it's the first time, when somebody cares truly about her.
Also the way how CP explained whole situation - is it possible, she was drugged, someone give her some sleeping pills or smth? And is it possible it was consensual , but she doesn't remember it? i mean...ugh. Anyway, all stories in the drama, are imo missing something big. They so one-sided, that i really don't know, what to think about some of the parts.
En Huai and her father - hmmmmmm i have some theory. Looking that Yang Yuan went to her parents meeting, i wonder if some part of him...maybe don't despise Momo, but he was dissapointed? The same is with mother. Is it possible, that the son, seeing that his parents, are more invested now in En Huai life, and she's better at everything than him...maybe he wanted to disappear? That his parents don't need him, because they have "new" golden child, with better grades etc. ? Also is it possible that Momo wanted to somehow "alarm" the school, that he need attention and feel neglected by parents?
Man in suit - Yuan Wu maybe? because En Huai would know it's her father for example. And that snooping neigbhor :P But he pointed something interesting by accident - it such a small building, where everybody are nosy...really nobody saw a kid? even with this whole door hidding...it's simple weird.
And the ending - soo the kid had his own key....that explains a lot....so..he pre-planned this all i suppose, but why?
I mean, she totally forgots, how sneaky MZ is. His promises, and words, are only a bunch of lies. He's also few steps ahead, so yeah. The way how FL belives, that she can with her approach, do something about him, is bogus.
And yes, it's sad, she doesn't say anybody about her plans. I get her twisted, i want to protect you vibe, but once it backfired, and alone, she wasn't able to do much. She needs people, to help her, period. And yeah, smu must start to think out of the box - she's now in the palace, she will not have great power, and she need some back up plan, just in case if Emporer will send her middle finger. Because all of this, are just words, that she must belive. And she must belive, he will keep his word. Also she forgots, that many people can despise her, because they will think she took their place. And that will make more enemies for her. Which, maybe doesn't have anything to do with her family, but just to crush her by jelly jelly or simple to demote her, and get her spot around MZ - they can be useful. I think she's very shortsighted, beliving, that only one obstacle, and managing it, will change her fate.
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I mean , i was waiting for some nice suspense (even if we were aware of many plots far behind), steamy romance, some angst, and fierce leads. I got, in random order
1. FL which had some potential, but sometimes she's acting like some lunatic. I get that her aggresivnes , comes from very sad place, and much of hurt, still...Also, it's such a pity, she doesn't have anyone, who really care about her. Ohm seems to send her mixed signals, and makes her more hurt, than give her stability; her father acts like some Casanova and clock for everything, even if it wasn't her fault; Gun seems to be her only support system, but honestly...he has nice guy vibe, and type which will always stay in friendzone
2. Trashy father
3. Cardboard Ohm - i mean.....this guy wasn't very bright one. And also i get he give up, on many things for Mink, he was beliving he will maybe still end up with her, and their son, still...the way how he was sending mixed signals to FL, play with her, etc. is cruel. Fine, you get to jail, and lost family, at the same time, i had imperssion we have some pity party for him sometimes. He still was in the car, he still should pay his price, he still ..yada yada yada...
He imo made everything even worse. He complicated, enough complicated as it is, Jet life, and give her imo nothing. No support, stability, even love.
4. Meena/Mink - GURRRRL... i mean, i agree this show, should change the poster. It was so frustrating. Also, it really rubs me wrong way, how everybody swiped under the rug, her wrongdoings. Like, she sold some sob story, but she did so many cruel things. Especially to Jetiya. And i really don't belive, that everything was orchestrate by Phak. She wasn't only his marionette, she truly wanted revenge. Also yeah, it seems, she has more screeentime, and more romance lo, than Jetiya, which is a joke. At this point, adding Jetiya as a main, is clownery 2 and imo misleading. Because it seems, alive or dead/with changed identity, she's more important than actual mains
5. Overall story, So much black and plot holes, that i can't even...
It was frustrating ride. I really was having high hopes for it, especially that i watched mains, in their prev dramas. I'm not sure, if the scenario is only problem. Or how the characters were written, but i feel very disappointed. Also imo, few last episodes, are so dragged. I think it should be shorter...dunno, 10 eps max?
Anyway, LE SIGH.