what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
There could be Ukrainian men in your country, not contesting that fact.
but the fact is, it's only Ukrainian men who are conscripted to fight against russians, not their women.
Are you seriously equating sexual desires with rape? Aren't you the same person who were preaching sex is fine and beautiful and nothing wrong about it!!
So, FL shagging multiple men is right and beautiful but ML should be a pure virgin since him having sex is equal to rape...
I can't really understand how hypocritical you lot are. Only FL's cam shag multiple men, ML's must stay pure virgin....I think we understand.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
What has your country taking Ukranian refugees got to do with Ukraine only conscripting men to fight against Russia?
How is that even liked to the discussion? Does your country taking Ukrainian refugees mean women are now being conscripted by Ukraine to fight against Russians? NO only men are being forced to fight.
again, the discussion has always been, if having sex is ok and right, why is it only the FL in kdramas shagging men while the ML's are shown as pure virgins? That is the only relevant discussion.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
a message?!!
this drama shows FL lying in bed with multiple men. as parity, the drama should ML also lying in bed with multiple women.
Otherwise, your theory about sex is ok is being proved wrong by the female writer of this very drama, LOl, even this drama does not agree with you that sex is fun and nice and right. It's only fun and nice and right for FL to shag multiple men but the ML must remain a pure virgin.
Not my idea. it's the drama that is telling the viewers that ML must be a pure virgin while the FL can shag as many men as she wants.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
because the reality is that women still don't do the top 100 most dangerous demanding jobs in the world.
take Ukraine war as an example, only men are conscripted. No feminist cried for equality and demanded women in Ukraine be conscripted as well. In fact, most feminists of Ukraine jumped ship long back.
Spend a day outside and everything you see is mostly built and maintained by men. From working on oil rigs to building electric lines to building roads, buildings and mining, it's mostly 99.999% of men doing it.
I don't mind dramas showing what they show, it may encourage more women to fight in frontline infantry and lay their lives for country but we all know the truth. Hell, Korea has conscription for only men. Whether they like or not, men must serve for 2 years.
What do you mean by tropes being reversed? Who is stopping Kdrama FL working in mines, oil rigs or constructing power lines. We are only talking about why it;s ok for FL to enjoy sex in Kdramas but ML's are pure virgins.
That is the beginning and end of my debate.
If Kdrama FL's want to work in underwater salvaging or be a kickass special commando, i am all for it. more female power...even if it's only in drama fantasies.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
Lady, I have just had wonderful Italian lunch prepared by my partner. The Calzone, it is more delicious than anything I eat outside, very yummy.
and stop getting frustrated on being called out on your BS.
Either sex is right or sex is wrong. It can't be right when FL does it and wrong when ML does it.
Stop being duplicitous and get to the point of debate.
If sex is not wrong, why are all the Kdrama romance ML's pure virgins waiting to sacrifice their precious flower to be deflowered by the FL who is shown to have shagged multiple men?
You lot never answer why the ML is a pure virgin in every drama if sex is not wrong. worse, you get personal, abuse and abscond.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
don't lie.
in kdramas only FL's are allowed to have sex and have multiple sexual partners.
ML's on other hand are not allowed to have sex, hell, they are not even shown sexually attracted to any woman other than FL. the ML's are pure virgins saving their precious flower to be deflowered by the FL.
FL shagging multiple men - sex is normal bla bla bla ML a pure virgin - yes, we need pure virgin ML, we don't like manwh0res.
basically, only the goose can fk around and the gander should save his virginity until the goose gets tired of fking around and settle with the virgin goose.
Highly disagree, but to each their own.The first 2 episodes of this drama where unexpectedly fun, funny, and fast…
good analysis. agree on everything.
My bottom line is basically this. give me varied ML's and FL's. even before the drama is aired, I know exactly that the FL will have ex boyfriends, her journey where she breaks up with ex and then we see ML, a pure virgin, who either has been in love with FL since he was a child or has been 'busy', so never dated falls madly in love FL..
that's it. That's basically every Kdrama romance. The story is basically the sauce. It does not matter because we already know the characters and their journey even before the first episode is released.
I would have been crapping on these dramas if every drama shows ML shagging women and FL is a pure virgin waiting for the ML and simping him.
Just don't keep making the same dramas with same characters and journey arks... that may be too much to ask I guess.
Highly disagree, but to each their own.The first 2 episodes of this drama where unexpectedly fun, funny, and fast…
in Neverthless, the ML is bit of a playboy but the FL is no pure virgin. She has had relationships before meeting the ML.
Anyway, the hate comments in that drama reflect everything wrong with this whole perverted Kdrama romance tropes.
The same people who are ok with FL dating men & a pure virgin ML are not ok if ML is shown dating women.
Imagine in this very drama if the ML was shown enjoying sex and openly talking about enjoying sex with other women, like how the FL does. There would be riots.
Since you can see the future, can you please share the winning lottery numbers too? Just for next week, nobody's…
abuse abuse and abuse.
it's just drama we are discussing darling.
just relax, it;s not like you created this shitty drama and even shittier pure vrigin ML;s
the blame goes to the female writers of these crappy kdramas who fantasize about shagging a lot of men and end up marrying a pure virgin handsome prince.
Highly disagree, but to each their own.The first 2 episodes of this drama where unexpectedly fun, funny, and fast…
have you seen ML's smoking or drinking and openly enjoying sex in recent Kdrama romances?
these ML's are perfect, good looking, smoking hot, no smoking, no excessive drinking, can cook, can clean etc etc... it's basically the perfect pure virgin boy toy + house maid combined.
what wrong with that? can we stop being suppressed that women in her late 30 has a sexuality? it’s so boring
could not agree more.
With every increase in sexual partner by 1, the exposure to dangerous STD's increases exponentially.
If one is a virgin, saving themselves for the special one, save your self for the one with similar outlook towards sex and life. Remember, it's not the just the outlook towards life, it's your life itself that could be exposed to STD's if the other person has had other sexual partners.
While I enjoyed a lot about the first episode and am excited for the rest of the series, it’s really sad to…
to Vals Stor ->
read my other post to you, I have given the list.
your second point is a feminist garbage. You know bloody well the difference between working in an army vs conscripted.
Korea has conscription, so does US, only for men.
Stop this feminist garbage about incels and misogyny when it's men who are conscripted and die in wars without their choice or how men work most of the toughest jobs on earth and not women. Go and check how many women work on oil rigs? Did the feminist brain think oil magically comes out of pumps? Go and check how many women work in construction of power lines? Did the feminist brain think electricity just appears in your home?
It's disgusting watching people crap on men, generalizing shit.
Since you can see the future, can you please share the winning lottery numbers too? Just for next week, nobody's…
let me give you a list of Kdrams currently running or just finished.
Dare to love me Serendipity's embrace love next door Dreaming of a freaking fairytale Frankly speaking Welcome to Samdal No gain, No love
In all the above dramas, the Fl had other men in their life, while the ML are pure virgins deflowered by the experienced FL.
These are drama just from this year alone, that is 2024. mind you, these are dramas I watched, there could be others i missed. There are dozen from 2023
You won't find a drama where the ML is shown using boxes on condoms to enjoy himself with other women than FL in any Kdrama in last few years.
In fact there is a drama called 'dare to love me'. The FL in that drama shagged around 100 men. It's like a badge of honor for her to have shagged that many men. The ML in that drama is a very popular actor and guess his love life....
Highly disagree, but to each their own.The first 2 episodes of this drama where unexpectedly fun, funny, and fast…
Your points are spot on but we are all over thinking Kdrama romance.
In every Kdrama romance now a days, there is only one main agenda. Have the FL experienced in love, shagging other men. The first few episodes of every Kdrama is detailing FL's lovers, her love life, her sex life. Then we get the ML, a pure virgin who is shown doing all things except have romantic interactions with other women. Every Kdrama romance is ONLY about showing a FL who is experienced love and sex & the pure virgin ML who only ever loved the ML getting together. That's it, that's the main story. Every other thing in the drama is to support the main concept of experienced in love FL ending up with pure virgin ML. That's why these kdramas come across as written by teenage girls.
These Kdrama romances have devolved into utter garbage over the last 2 -3 years.
but the fact is, it's only Ukrainian men who are conscripted to fight against russians, not their women.
Are you seriously equating sexual desires with rape?
Aren't you the same person who were preaching sex is fine and beautiful and nothing wrong about it!!
So, FL shagging multiple men is right and beautiful
but ML should be a pure virgin since him having sex is equal to rape...
I can't really understand how hypocritical you lot are.
Only FL's cam shag multiple men, ML's must stay pure virgin....I think we understand.
How is that even liked to the discussion?
Does your country taking Ukrainian refugees mean women are now being conscripted by Ukraine to fight against Russians?
NO
only men are being forced to fight.
again, the discussion has always been, if having sex is ok and right, why is it only the FL in kdramas shagging men while the ML's are shown as pure virgins?
That is the only relevant discussion.
this drama shows FL lying in bed with multiple men.
as parity, the drama should ML also lying in bed with multiple women.
Otherwise, your theory about sex is ok is being proved wrong by the female writer of this very drama,
LOl, even this drama does not agree with you that sex is fun and nice and right. It's only fun and nice and right for FL to shag multiple men but the ML must remain a pure virgin.
Not my idea. it's the drama that is telling the viewers that ML must be a pure virgin while the FL can shag as many men as she wants.
take Ukraine war as an example, only men are conscripted. No feminist cried for equality and demanded women in Ukraine be conscripted as well.
In fact, most feminists of Ukraine jumped ship long back.
Spend a day outside and everything you see is mostly built and maintained by men.
From working on oil rigs to building electric lines to building roads, buildings and mining, it's mostly 99.999% of men doing it.
I don't mind dramas showing what they show, it may encourage more women to fight in frontline infantry and lay their lives for country but we all know the truth.
Hell, Korea has conscription for only men. Whether they like or not, men must serve for 2 years.
What do you mean by tropes being reversed?
Who is stopping Kdrama FL working in mines, oil rigs or constructing power lines.
We are only talking about why it;s ok for FL to enjoy sex in Kdramas but ML's are pure virgins.
That is the beginning and end of my debate.
If Kdrama FL's want to work in underwater salvaging or be a kickass special commando, i am all for it. more female power...even if it's only in drama fantasies.
and stop getting frustrated on being called out on your BS.
Either sex is right or sex is wrong.
It can't be right when FL does it and wrong when ML does it.
Stop being duplicitous and get to the point of debate.
If sex is not wrong, why are all the Kdrama romance ML's pure virgins waiting to sacrifice their precious flower to be deflowered by the FL who is shown to have shagged multiple men?
You lot never answer why the ML is a pure virgin in every drama if sex is not wrong.
worse, you get personal, abuse and abscond.
in kdramas only FL's are allowed to have sex and have multiple sexual partners.
ML's on other hand are not allowed to have sex, hell, they are not even shown sexually attracted to any woman other than FL. the ML's are pure virgins saving their precious flower to be deflowered by the FL.
FL shagging multiple men - sex is normal bla bla bla
ML a pure virgin - yes, we need pure virgin ML, we don't like manwh0res.
basically, only the goose can fk around and the gander should save his virginity until the goose gets tired of fking around and settle with the virgin goose.
Did I get that right?
doesn't the FL do worse in princess royal to the ML than what the husband does the FL in this drama?
FL shagging other men
ML is pure virgin saving his flower to be deflowered by the FL
Stop hitting on me please, it's a bit creepy.
agree on everything.
My bottom line is basically this. give me varied ML's and FL's.
even before the drama is aired, I know exactly that the FL will have ex boyfriends, her journey where she breaks up with ex and
then we see ML, a pure virgin, who either has been in love with FL since he was a child or has been 'busy', so never dated falls madly in love FL..
that's it. That's basically every Kdrama romance.
The story is basically the sauce. It does not matter because we already know the characters and their journey even before the first episode is released.
I would have been crapping on these dramas if every drama shows ML shagging women and FL is a pure virgin waiting for the ML and simping him.
Just don't keep making the same dramas with same characters and journey arks...
that may be too much to ask I guess.
Anyway, the hate comments in that drama reflect everything wrong with this whole perverted Kdrama romance tropes.
The same people who are ok with FL dating men & a pure virgin ML are not ok if ML is shown dating women.
Imagine in this very drama if the ML was shown enjoying sex and openly talking about enjoying sex with other women, like how the FL does.
There would be riots.
it's just drama we are discussing darling.
just relax, it;s not like you created this shitty drama and even shittier pure vrigin ML;s
the blame goes to the female writers of these crappy kdramas who fantasize about shagging a lot of men and end up marrying a pure virgin handsome prince.
I forgive you, would not wish you bad just because you abused me online.
You have a nice life filled with loving people who cherish you.
these ML's are perfect, good looking, smoking hot, no smoking, no excessive drinking, can cook, can clean etc etc...
it's basically the perfect pure virgin boy toy + house maid combined.
With every increase in sexual partner by 1, the exposure to dangerous STD's increases exponentially.
If one is a virgin, saving themselves for the special one, save your self for the one with similar outlook towards sex and life.
Remember, it's not the just the outlook towards life, it's your life itself that could be exposed to STD's if the other person has had other sexual partners.
If you have sex with the one you love, it is awkward, sweaty, gross and very beautiful.
unfortunately, the kind of sex we see in dramas is exactly how you posted, there is no love involved. It might as well be 2 pigs going at it.
age gap argument is immaterial.
read my other post to you, I have given the list.
your second point is a feminist garbage.
You know bloody well the difference between working in an army vs conscripted.
Korea has conscription, so does US, only for men.
Stop this feminist garbage about incels and misogyny when it's men who are conscripted and die in wars without their choice or how men work most of the toughest jobs on earth and not women.
Go and check how many women work on oil rigs?
Did the feminist brain think oil magically comes out of pumps?
Go and check how many women work in construction of power lines?
Did the feminist brain think electricity just appears in your home?
It's disgusting watching people crap on men, generalizing shit.
Dare to love me
Serendipity's embrace
love next door
Dreaming of a freaking fairytale
Frankly speaking
Welcome to Samdal
No gain, No love
In all the above dramas, the Fl had other men in their life, while the ML are pure virgins deflowered by the experienced FL.
These are drama just from this year alone, that is 2024. mind you, these are dramas I watched, there could be others i missed.
There are dozen from 2023
You won't find a drama where the ML is shown using boxes on condoms to enjoy himself with other women than FL in any Kdrama in last few years.
In fact there is a drama called 'dare to love me'. The FL in that drama shagged around 100 men. It's like a badge of honor for her to have shagged that many men. The ML in that drama is a very popular actor and guess his love life....
but we are all over thinking Kdrama romance.
In every Kdrama romance now a days, there is only one main agenda.
Have the FL experienced in love, shagging other men. The first few episodes of every Kdrama is detailing FL's lovers, her love life, her sex life.
Then we get the ML, a pure virgin who is shown doing all things except have romantic interactions with other women.
Every Kdrama romance is ONLY about showing a FL who is experienced love and sex & the pure virgin ML who only ever loved the ML getting together.
That's it, that's the main story.
Every other thing in the drama is to support the main concept of experienced in love FL ending up with pure virgin ML. That's why these kdramas come across as written by teenage girls.
These Kdrama romances have devolved into utter garbage over the last 2 -3 years.